Never having used a gas canister cover before I was wondering whether I'm missing a trick now the colder weather is here . What's everyone's thoughts please.
In reply to Post #1
Keeps the cold air in waste of time really unless you want a green gas bottle rather than grey or blue
Not sure of the heated ones that plug in a power pack though
I'm sure Gerry or someone else posted a link to a usb cup warmer version ages ago
Keeps the cold air in waste of time really unless you want a green gas bottle rather than grey or blue
Not sure of the heated ones that plug in a power pack though
I'm sure Gerry or someone else posted a link to a usb cup warmer version ages ago
In reply to Post #1
I was given a Camo Fox one for free. Not only will my jetboil not stand up straight I struggle to find it. Took the cover off and found it again.
I was given a Camo Fox one for free. Not only will my jetboil not stand up straight I struggle to find it. Took the cover off and found it again.
In reply to Post #1
Waste of money IMO. I bought a Trakker cover so I could put a usb mug warmer inside but the usb plug was getting a bit hot so scrapped that idea. I think that when the gas is flowing it has a cooling effect on the cannister, so the cover only helps to hold the cold in. Mine was cordura, if it got wet it held the water. I've now gone to Go system cannisters, so doesn't fit anyway.
Waste of money IMO. I bought a Trakker cover so I could put a usb mug warmer inside but the usb plug was getting a bit hot so scrapped that idea. I think that when the gas is flowing it has a cooling effect on the cannister, so the cover only helps to hold the cold in. Mine was cordura, if it got wet it held the water. I've now gone to Go system cannisters, so doesn't fit anyway.
In reply to Post #1
On their own they are a waste of time for the reasons stated BUT if you use one in conjunction with those little teabag style hand warmers they work a treat.
Activate the hand warmer and slip it into the concave space at the bottom of the tin and zip up said cover, keeps the gas flowing for ages.
On their own they are a waste of time for the reasons stated BUT if you use one in conjunction with those little teabag style hand warmers they work a treat.
Activate the hand warmer and slip it into the concave space at the bottom of the tin and zip up said cover, keeps the gas flowing for ages.
In reply to Post #1
on there own it makes it WORSE simply because as you will probably have seen in colder weather when you use it frosty ice forms on the bottom of the can when a cover is on it makes this worse
HOWEVER
Simple solution if you take a phone charger power pack ? buy one of these and with the cover on or even no cover at all
your sorted OBVIOUSLY ONLY USE IT WHEN YOU WANT A CUPPA DONT LEAVE IT PLUGGED IN
LINKY POO
on there own it makes it WORSE simply because as you will probably have seen in colder weather when you use it frosty ice forms on the bottom of the can when a cover is on it makes this worse
HOWEVER
Simple solution if you take a phone charger power pack ? buy one of these and with the cover on or even no cover at all
your sorted OBVIOUSLY ONLY USE IT WHEN YOU WANT A CUPPA DONT LEAVE IT PLUGGED IN
LINKY POO
Ridgemonkey ones work brilliant just remember to turn the power off.
In reply to Post #1
Lagging anything that gets cold from the inside is obviously not going to work - however I have loads - if I'm gonna sit there blanking the last thing I want is a silver gas tin upsetting my feug Shui.
I've tried the mug heaters and also the usb heat panels you can get off eBay but using power to save power is a bit counterproductive.
Whilst our world Is fishing if there was a decent way then every kebab van, pub heaters would be all over given their usage. If you are doing it to get fuel efficiency then use a jet boil - mine saves me more gas than any cookers I've previously used and I don't now use my Coleman in winter it's that good.
Lagging anything that gets cold from the inside is obviously not going to work - however I have loads - if I'm gonna sit there blanking the last thing I want is a silver gas tin upsetting my feug Shui.
I've tried the mug heaters and also the usb heat panels you can get off eBay but using power to save power is a bit counterproductive.
Whilst our world Is fishing if there was a decent way then every kebab van, pub heaters would be all over given their usage. If you are doing it to get fuel efficiency then use a jet boil - mine saves me more gas than any cookers I've previously used and I don't now use my Coleman in winter it's that good.
In reply to Post #1
Absolutely not.
Even worse is different gas canister makes are not the same in terms of delivering gas to your stove, EVEN if your stove has a preheater (a copper pipe from gas canister going over the flame to the stove inlet).
Coleman canisters are awful in colder weather, the gas simply does not come out very well.
I did actually compare various brands and rate them with Primus, GoSystem coming out top, and Sunngas I was going to winter test.
Ps, I'm not trying to be condescending explaining about preheaters, but not everyone knows.
Absolutely not.
Even worse is different gas canister makes are not the same in terms of delivering gas to your stove, EVEN if your stove has a preheater (a copper pipe from gas canister going over the flame to the stove inlet).
Coleman canisters are awful in colder weather, the gas simply does not come out very well.
I did actually compare various brands and rate them with Primus, GoSystem coming out top, and Sunngas I was going to winter test.
Ps, I'm not trying to be condescending explaining about preheaters, but not everyone knows.
I use propane to cook at home as I'm "off the beaten track",
no problem with cold weather works even when there's a hard frost,
only downside is lugging the 4kg bottle to the swim, not so bad with a good barrow.
no problem with cold weather works even when there's a hard frost,
only downside is lugging the 4kg bottle to the swim, not so bad with a good barrow.
In reply to Post #10
I have a little parabolic heater, and when one canister starts to ice up and really slow down, I just swap it for one that's been kept a bit warm in my bivvie... when that freezes up, I swap them back..
It does seem to help, as when they get totally iced up - literally nothing comes out
I have a little parabolic heater, and when one canister starts to ice up and really slow down, I just swap it for one that's been kept a bit warm in my bivvie... when that freezes up, I swap them back..
It does seem to help, as when they get totally iced up - literally nothing comes out
For donkey years now, I have took a small bait bucket with me, I fill it at the start of the session with water out of the pond and when I cook, I just stand the cannister in it and it never freezes up as no matter how cold it is, the water will always be above freezing and when I am not using the tub of water, I keep it inside the bivvy or out in the Sun to keep warm and I never have problems with the cannister freezing up.
And if it is extremely cold and the water freezes up in the bucket whilst in the bivvy, I just empty it and refill it, but, when it gets that bad, the lake is usually freezing up anyway and time to go home.
And if it is extremely cold and the water freezes up in the bucket whilst in the bivvy, I just empty it and refill it, but, when it gets that bad, the lake is usually freezing up anyway and time to go home.
One plus with the gas canister cover is if you bung the canister in your sleeping bag to warm up (free heat, always available) it doesn't feel cold to the touch against your body/feet like a bare canister does until it warms up.
As a cover outside to warm the can - nope does bugger all useful. ☹️
As a cover outside to warm the can - nope does bugger all useful. ☹️
In reply to Post #6
Now a days i do exactly the same as this... use a usb cup warmer - cost me pennies and works great.
Before they were a thing i just used the reusable handwarmers that you boil. Have two and boil one when you make a brew and then alternate them - they used to be great
Now a days i do exactly the same as this... use a usb cup warmer - cost me pennies and works great.
Before they were a thing i just used the reusable handwarmers that you boil. Have two and boil one when you make a brew and then alternate them - they used to be great
In reply to Post #11
What A hassle
Just buy A coleman petrol stove for proper winter carp fishing. Works in the coldest conditions.
What A hassle
Just buy A coleman petrol stove for proper winter carp fishing. Works in the coldest conditions.
In reply to Post #14
Thanks for the replies . Probably not missing much then . Whilst the stove performance is not too bad I thought I might get more out of the Coleman canisters . Reading other threads it would seem it might be more to do with the make of cannister . Various other canisters seem highly recommended but are quite a bit more expensive than the Coleman., thanks .
Thanks for the replies . Probably not missing much then . Whilst the stove performance is not too bad I thought I might get more out of the Coleman canisters . Reading other threads it would seem it might be more to do with the make of cannister . Various other canisters seem highly recommended but are quite a bit more expensive than the Coleman., thanks .
In reply to Post #15
Or a Trangia if you like your eyebrows..
Or a Trangia if you like your eyebrows..
In reply to Post #17
Got to love a Trangia, a stove for all seasons👍👍
Tel
Got to love a Trangia, a stove for all seasons👍👍
Tel
Wouldn't hessian do the job.?
In reply to Post #19
I use the ridgemonkey plug in heated cover and it works a treat! As for a standard one dont bother as everyone else has said !
I use the ridgemonkey plug in heated cover and it works a treat! As for a standard one dont bother as everyone else has said !
I have the Fox one and yeah works great. Love the fact it had a lighter holder also.
Well worth the £11.
Well worth the £11.
In reply to Post #21
Dont get sucked in Ryan, youve got pockets in them trousers .
Dont get sucked in Ryan, youve got pockets in them trousers .
In reply to Post #19
Just hollow out an old teddy bear, then you've got a cover and a little friend with a cute little face to keep you company on those long winter nights.
Just hollow out an old teddy bear, then you've got a cover and a little friend with a cute little face to keep you company on those long winter nights.
In reply to Post #23
Theres a couple on here who blow their friend up first , a Moustache ticks the box for some
Theres a couple on here who blow their friend up first , a Moustache ticks the box for some
In reply to Post #1
dont work but look carpy
dont work but look carpy
I've got a cheap cover cost me about a fiver. I recon that work. I use the Coleman gas and think the cover helps a lot
In reply to Post #26
Your cheap cover must defy the laws of science then.
Your cheap cover must defy the laws of science then.
In reply to Post #26
It can't help. As the liquid turns to a gas, energy is taken in from the surrounding atmosphere (google latent heat of vapourisation). Insulating the cylinder won't help, warming it somehow most definitely does.
It can't help. As the liquid turns to a gas, energy is taken in from the surrounding atmosphere (google latent heat of vapourisation). Insulating the cylinder won't help, warming it somehow most definitely does.
In reply to Post #28
Yep and the ridgemonkey one works perfect. Long as you remember to turn it off after use. I can drain cans even in the winter now.
Yep and the ridgemonkey one works perfect. Long as you remember to turn it off after use. I can drain cans even in the winter now.
In reply to Post #29
I use the Coleman gas canisters and find especially this time of year that I can never get the last of the gas out . I know others use different make canisters and are more successful in getting every last drop out . I do find however that these are quite a bit more expensive so stick with the Coleman - I always manage somehow to get the last out 🤣 the usb heated ones seem an interesting alternative for the winter months. Would one of these enable me to run the Coleman canisters dry ? Do these heated ones need turning on before to pre-heat if you like , thanks ?
I use the Coleman gas canisters and find especially this time of year that I can never get the last of the gas out . I know others use different make canisters and are more successful in getting every last drop out . I do find however that these are quite a bit more expensive so stick with the Coleman - I always manage somehow to get the last out 🤣 the usb heated ones seem an interesting alternative for the winter months. Would one of these enable me to run the Coleman canisters dry ? Do these heated ones need turning on before to pre-heat if you like , thanks ?
In reply to Post #30
read post 6 mate
read post 6 mate
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