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Back Rests (61 posts / 3,130 views)
RKB
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Post #1 2 Aug 2022 11:44
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Can anyone recommend a back rest that will not, under any circumstances, allow the rod to fly out of it on the most violent of takes?

Fishing fairly well locked up yesterday, up against a weed bed and pads about 20 yards out and sitting very close to my rods, got a take - beep on the alarm, rod bent over and then before I knew it the rod had been pulled off of the rest. The only reason it didn't go in is because the reel got stuck behind the front bars.

I use the original Solar backrests at their tightest setting, with duplon rod handles.

Never had this happen before in 15 years of using these rests but the whole episode has got me thinking. Any suggestions welcomed.
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #2 2 Aug 2022 11:49
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In reply to Post #1
ise what you've got now and pair them with a jag rod locker, or a jag lock down and jag rod locker...the rods not going anywhere with that combination
RKB
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Post #3 2 Aug 2022 11:54
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In reply to Post #2
This is going to cost me an arm and a leg, isn't it?
Great-Blondini Great-Blondini
MODERATORMOD
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Post #4 2 Aug 2022 11:57
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In reply to Post #3
This is going to cost me an arm and a leg, isn't it?

Yes
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #5 2 Aug 2022 11:58
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In reply to Post #1
Just stick a bankstick by the side of your reel, and tuck the reel handle behind it. Nothing is moving then
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #6 2 Aug 2022 12:01
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Ik use Solar A1 bankrest with PB Products Bungee Rod Lock
woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #7 2 Aug 2022 12:01
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In reply to Post #3
A cheaper option might be the pb rod lock

Edit zinno just beat me to it
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #8 2 Aug 2022 12:26
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In reply to Post #1
I have the solar back rests coupled with the Jag Rod lockers
RKB
Posts: 1,731
Post #9 2 Aug 2022 13:01
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Excellent, cheers all, definitely some ideas to work with.
spodrod spodrod
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Post #10 2 Aug 2022 13:45
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i just bought some new direction magnetic buttrests having had my rod towed round a lake at the weekend
ip100 ip100
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Post #11 2 Aug 2022 14:01
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In reply to Post #10
Sorry to disappoint you but they won't help. I have a set and while they are decent enough for general use, anything even remotely locked up and they will fail. The magnets aren't very strong
spodrod spodrod
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Post #12 2 Aug 2022 14:10
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In reply to Post #11
ok thats disappointing news. anyone want to buy some ND magnetic backrests?!
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #13 2 Aug 2022 14:14
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I would imagine very unlikey after reading post 11 😀
spodrod spodrod
Posts: 404
Post #14 2 Aug 2022 14:14
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In reply to Post #11
i wont be completely locked up just fairly tight
spodrod spodrod
Posts: 404
Post #15 2 Aug 2022 14:14
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stuart666 stuart666
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Post #16 2 Aug 2022 14:16
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Jag rod lockers are probably the best you will get.
spodrod spodrod
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Post #17 2 Aug 2022 14:43
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In reply to Post #16
i'll get some of those if the RP-1 ever comes back in stock
ip100 ip100
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Post #18 2 Aug 2022 14:49
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In reply to Post #14
Yeah still not great really. Mine have been relegated to my catfish setup where you never fish even slightly tightened up
spodrod spodrod
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Post #19 2 Aug 2022 14:50
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In reply to Post #18
ok thanks
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
Posts: 2,135
Post #20 2 Aug 2022 14:51
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In reply to Post #3
Sonik rubber stanz grips they do 3 sizes I have found them to be the cheapest and most grippy or Cygnet Quicklok butt rest again which can be adjusted depending on whether cork or Duplon
RKB
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Post #21 2 Aug 2022 15:00
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Thanks for all the further suggestions.

I am now wondering if perhaps I could have changed the set up slightly to avoid it happening. Generally my rods are fairly level - not pointing up or down. Given the water level is slightly lower, perhaps I need to get my rod tips down lower?

It happened quick but the rod bent over and almost "popped" out of the rest rather than getting pulled out of it.
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
Post #22 2 Aug 2022 15:06
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It's a pity John Roberts' aren't still available, they are effective and cost pennies.
ip100 ip100
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Post #23 2 Aug 2022 15:21
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In reply to Post #22
They are, just not labelled as John Roberts anymore
Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #24 2 Aug 2022 15:56
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In reply to Post #21
Nash butt locks are pretty good.
Neil_no_Fish
Posts: 2,431
Post #25 2 Aug 2022 18:18
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Anything tight and then double over a black hair band on the spigot and over the rest. It works like a jag one and stays on until you lift up it ends up on the but of the rod when you pick it up or breaks off you can get 100 for a quid at primary
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #26 2 Aug 2022 20:16
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In reply to Post #1
I use the small Solar backrests on the tightest setting and my rods are solid - however as its no longer fashionable to fish with butt rings behind alarms I've had neville ball clips (probably equally unfashionable) whipped on to all my main carp rod set ups about 80mm behind the real seat which basically perfoms the same function.

One set is abbreviated but the other was full jap shrink so I had the last 100mm at the real seat end removed so that the bare blank sits 'tight' in the backrest (rather than duplon etc). Talk to your local rod builder - Bob the Rod did both my sets and it cost less than a set of Jag rod lockers etc and is less faff
RigDemon RigDemon
Posts: 1,458
Post #27 2 Aug 2022 20:38
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In reply to Post #1
I would have to recommend the Jag Lockdowns/Rod Lockers for security (pictured).

I do a fair bit of catfishing and I'm always a bit nervous about the takes, but these do give you piece of mind.

If you can get the hang of pressing the little button on the locker itself nothing will move guaranteed, just make sure everything else is solid

Best out there imo.

riddler riddler
Posts: 967
Post #28 2 Aug 2022 20:42
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In reply to Post #27
Am I looking at this correctly? Stage stands on this pod ?
Curious as to how this is particularly secure ?
If not pinned down ?
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #29 2 Aug 2022 20:48
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PB Products Bungee Fishing Rod Locks are £5.45 and lock the rods in any position, I sometimes fish with my rods completely up even then I use the PB Products Bungee Fishing Rod Locks

There is 1 channel that I fish where you fish with min 8 oz lead, my rods are set up 45° degrees and 1 meter deep in the water the PB bungee lock keeps them perfectly in place.

If I'm in a crazy mood again I might buy the Jag locks but the Pb's do the job just as well I suspect.


RigDemon RigDemon
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Post #30 2 Aug 2022 21:42
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In reply to Post #28
You must be missing the pin at the back locking it to the ground.
riddler riddler
Posts: 967
Post #31 2 Aug 2022 22:07
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In reply to Post #30
How deep is that sunk in then ?
Tend to pin front and back down if using a pod and need the rigidity
But if it works for you Happy days
Lawson9 Lawson9
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Post #32 2 Aug 2022 22:54
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Have a look at these

https://www.total-fishing-tackle.com/prologic-clinch-pivoting-snag-butt-grip

I have been very impressed with mine.
Baza1075
Posts: 552
Post #33 2 Aug 2022 22:59
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In reply to Post #1
I couldn't get pb ones when I wanted them so I made some solid as a rock. I then pin my pod down and something has to break before a rod goes anywhere.
55s 55s
Posts: 707
Post #34 2 Aug 2022 23:39
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I would go butt ring tight on buzzer over anything else, nothing new to remember and works for me.
mark1009
Posts: 4,738
Post #35 3 Aug 2022 01:19
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In reply to Post #34
Same here. I think it's just a fashion thing. Like having the rods so close together you have to fold the reel handles. Another thing I can't stand I like my rods apart so they don't interfere with each other when you get a run.
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
Post #36 3 Aug 2022 04:55
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In reply to Post #35
Or even spacing them out on single sticks ,the heresy of it all
RKB
Posts: 1,731
Post #37 3 Aug 2022 08:23
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In reply to Post #35
I am using a pod with everything nicely spaced out. Gone are the days of struggling with single sticks, I have much better things to do on my short sessions than getting into a froth whilst trying to get six bank sticks into rock hard ground around a gravel pit where it hasn't rained for months!

I am contender for least fashionable person in carp fishing, by the way!

Thanks for all the suggestions. Considering just wrapping a bungee cord around the lot, attach to the pod on either side and be done with it.

(Next thread I'll start will be: "My Pod Was Pulled Into The Lake With All My Rods On It")
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #38 3 Aug 2022 09:16
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In reply to Post #37
I only use my 3 rod rod pod with 2 rods the middle bankstick is insert completely into the ground (can also use a bivvy peg) so my rodpod will never be pulled from its place, on the middle bankstick in the ground i put my anti theft alarm.

for single bankstick setup you can use a Bankstick stabilizer.

Rodpod setup
Rodpod setup photo 2

Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #39 3 Aug 2022 09:21
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In reply to Post #37
Aaaah, if you don't give a rats about being carp trendy just use matrix or neville stainless sticks and a big club hammer to smash them in. Use the nash butt grippers and nothings going in. You may need a powered barrow to get the kit to your swim without suffering a hernia.
RKB
Posts: 1,731
Post #40 3 Aug 2022 09:24
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In reply to Post #39
I'll chuck a club hammer into the carrier bag.
Goose Goose
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Post #41 3 Aug 2022 09:55
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Mines a five pounder with luminous orange handle so I don't lose it.
ip100 ip100
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Post #42 3 Aug 2022 10:09
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In reply to Post #38
If your pushing sticks into the ground anyway, why bother using a pod?
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #43 3 Aug 2022 10:14
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In reply to Post #42
There is only 1 bankstick in the ground to secure the rodpod, on the channel where I mostly fish it's not always easy to knock banksticks into the ground (lots of concrete and concetrate rubble) then I use 1 bivvy pegs.

+ I also don't want to scratch the whole rodpod, 1 bankstick is enough to keep everything in place so why put all banksticks in the ground (unnecessary extra work)

ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #44 3 Aug 2022 12:15
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In reply to Post #43
Yeah, I meant why bother with a pod at all? If you are putting anything in the ground to "secure" the pod then that defeats the object of a pod?!
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #45 3 Aug 2022 12:20
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In reply to Post #41
Good work
RKB
Posts: 1,731
Post #46 3 Aug 2022 12:27
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In reply to Post #44
I was thinking I could attach my aforementioned bungee cord to some pegs in the ground. Then dismissed the idea because I can't be bothered getting anything into the ground, which I why I use a pod.
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #47 3 Aug 2022 12:44
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In reply to Post #44
So using a pod the way I want is wrong? what a bs.
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #48 3 Aug 2022 15:23
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In reply to Post #47
Eh? Just seems pointless, and a bit of kit you are carrying about which you don't need to? If you're pushing sticks into the ground anyway then why bother? If you can't get sticks in then fair enough a pod may be the way to go. Never said it was wrong, it's your kit,do what you want with it. Just seems pointless. No need to be a knob about it
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #49 3 Aug 2022 15:30
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In reply to Post #24
yep, thats what i use and never had a rod ripped out of the pod.
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #50 3 Aug 2022 15:41
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In reply to Post #48
It's funny how you bother about how someone else fishes
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #51 3 Aug 2022 15:43
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In reply to Post #50
Eh? Not bothered at all, stop twisting my words. Just chatting, it's what forums are for
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #52 3 Aug 2022 15:50
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In reply to Post #50
Thought he was offering help
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #53 3 Aug 2022 15:58
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In reply to Post #52
Saying something is pointless in a pointless reaction isn't helping, maby for him it's pointless but really who cares? also unnecessary to continue on it, back to ts question plz.
ip100 ip100
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Post #54 3 Aug 2022 16:03
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In reply to Post #53
But in a thread about backrests you post stuff about rod pods and it's not pointless? Give me a break
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #55 3 Aug 2022 16:06
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In reply to Post #53
Congratulations you have reached 1000 posts
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #56 3 Aug 2022 16:07
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In reply to Post #54
He referred to: (Next thread I'll start will be: "My Pod Was Pulled Into The Lake With All My Rods On It")
on which I showed a photo how I solve that with my rodpod, after which you start with this Bs

Really stop trolling
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #57 3 Aug 2022 16:09
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In reply to Post #56
Lol Im not trolling chap. You just don't take questioning very well do you? I still remember when you posted pictures of your rigs a couple of years back and wouldn't have any of the countless people telling you how dangerous they were.
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #58 3 Aug 2022 16:11
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In reply to Post #57
There's something wrong in your head I've never had a discussion about my rigs on this forum, I've been using Korda Boom and loops for 4 years and only been on this forum for 2 years...
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #59 3 Aug 2022 16:12
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In reply to Post #58
Yes you did and you know it.
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #60 3 Aug 2022 16:14
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In reply to Post #59
Man really how sad are you, if it were true: Get over it it's been years as you claim
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #61 3 Aug 2022 16:16
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