Yes, another thread about 10ft rods, sorry.
So my son has started using my 10ft setup so I was considering replacing it. To be honest, the rods were functional but not ideal - they were Daiwa 3lb tc, but I only needed them for small waters which covered a small percentage of my fishing.
So I thought it's a good opportunity to upgrade to something better. My main rods that I use are 12ft 2lb tc from the 80's which I love using. They were rebuilt in 2017 and have a 25mm butt ring, 2 rings on the butt section, 9 rings in total and bend properly through to the butt - they are Armalites Mk I. Basically, they are everything that modern carp rods aren't.
So, the question I have is does a 10ft off the shelf rod exist with these characteristics? Maximum 30mm butt ring, 8 guides minimum on the blank with a proper thru action. Don't want a custom built. My slim budget is £200 for 3 rods, £250 max at a push. Some rods come close but not quite right - Wychwood Extricator (too stiff), PB Products do a couple (only 6 rings), Prologic C1 Old Skool (can't find anything about this online).
Any suggestions?
Edit - ideally 2lb - 2.5lb tc.
So my son has started using my 10ft setup so I was considering replacing it. To be honest, the rods were functional but not ideal - they were Daiwa 3lb tc, but I only needed them for small waters which covered a small percentage of my fishing.
So I thought it's a good opportunity to upgrade to something better. My main rods that I use are 12ft 2lb tc from the 80's which I love using. They were rebuilt in 2017 and have a 25mm butt ring, 2 rings on the butt section, 9 rings in total and bend properly through to the butt - they are Armalites Mk I. Basically, they are everything that modern carp rods aren't.
So, the question I have is does a 10ft off the shelf rod exist with these characteristics? Maximum 30mm butt ring, 8 guides minimum on the blank with a proper thru action. Don't want a custom built. My slim budget is £200 for 3 rods, £250 max at a push. Some rods come close but not quite right - Wychwood Extricator (too stiff), PB Products do a couple (only 6 rings), Prologic C1 Old Skool (can't find anything about this online).
Any suggestions?
Edit - ideally 2lb - 2.5lb tc.
In reply to Post #1
Not even seen one but the korum opportunist might fit the bill.
Not even seen one but the korum opportunist might fit the bill.
In reply to Post #1
Not used them but other rods in the range have good feedback -
Tackle Box Darent Valley Specimen Rod 10ft 3lb
And for £51.99 ea and a full cork handle whats not to like! No dramas for that price if you don't get on with them . . .give TB a ring first and they'll advise on actions etc
Not used them but other rods in the range have good feedback -
Tackle Box Darent Valley Specimen Rod 10ft 3lb
And for £51.99 ea and a full cork handle whats not to like! No dramas for that price if you don't get on with them . . .give TB a ring first and they'll advise on actions etc
In reply to Post #3
The only thing I can add to that is that the reel seats are poor.
I have a pair of 11ft twin tops from that range..the metal part of the seat is flimsy and the plastic liner underneath has split. This is on a pair of rods that have been used very little and have only ever had the reels removed twice and refitted since purchase. Fuji quality they are not ! Shame as the rest of the rods are good quality , Oh except for the rod sleeve but that is not relevant in my case as the rods are stored in a dedicated holdall.
The only thing I can add to that is that the reel seats are poor.
I have a pair of 11ft twin tops from that range..the metal part of the seat is flimsy and the plastic liner underneath has split. This is on a pair of rods that have been used very little and have only ever had the reels removed twice and refitted since purchase. Fuji quality they are not ! Shame as the rest of the rods are good quality , Oh except for the rod sleeve but that is not relevant in my case as the rods are stored in a dedicated holdall.
Nash Dwarf very nice fish playing on them 7 guides and cast very well (2.75lb feels like most custom 2.5lb rods), i use now the Daiwa cast'izm 10ft 3lb cork but would still fish with the dwarf if i still had them
Outside of the price, the Armalite 10ft is the perfect rod for what you describe
Outside of the price, the Armalite 10ft is the perfect rod for what you describe
In reply to Post #5
Outside of price maybe Century Fat Boy Slim in 10ft 3lb
Shimano do a TX2 in 10ft 2.75 . . .on your budget at £75 ea - no idea about 10ft girls rods but the 12' are excellent for the £
Outside of price maybe Century Fat Boy Slim in 10ft 3lb
Shimano do a TX2 in 10ft 2.75 . . .on your budget at £75 ea - no idea about 10ft girls rods but the 12' are excellent for the £
Shimano Tx-2 10ft is **** at fish playing, it's stiff compared to Dwarf/Daiwa/Sonik 10ft rods
In reply to Post #7
Surely all 10ft rods over 2lb tc are? Never seen the attraction unless boating out on inland seas - daft
Surely all 10ft rods over 2lb tc are? Never seen the attraction unless boating out on inland seas - daft
In reply to Post #1
edit.. perfect rod but way over budget.
edit.. perfect rod but way over budget.
In reply to Post #8
Agreed.
Agreed.
In reply to Post #8
Agreed .....add to that...... overhanging trees, tight swims.
I'd far rather use a 12 ft rod if able.
Agreed .....add to that...... overhanging trees, tight swims.
I'd far rather use a 12 ft rod if able.
In reply to Post #11
How often is that 'actually' a problem? In the rare occurences it has I've just knelt when casting
If using 10ft rods was a real 'thing' then I'd be using them for barbel / river fishing where swims are much tighter / awkward - fact is I dont and 12' rods work just fine there as well!
Nash marketing = dwarf = sell more stuff you probably dont need
How often is that 'actually' a problem? In the rare occurences it has I've just knelt when casting
If using 10ft rods was a real 'thing' then I'd be using them for barbel / river fishing where swims are much tighter / awkward - fact is I dont and 12' rods work just fine there as well!
Nash marketing = dwarf = sell more stuff you probably dont need
Marketing or not the Dwarfs are decent rods and price is oke
I don't give a **** about brands as long as it's good, Nash has a lot of junk but the Dwarf models from 2020 are not one of them.
Since fishing with 10ft rods I no longer see the need to use 12ft or i have to fish beyond 95yard, but 90% I fish on channels now so I barely have to fish beyond 95m
10ft i have used so far:
Fs Ctx 10ft 2.75lb
Dwarf 10ft 3lb
Daiwa Cast izm 10ft 3lb (the are also in 2.5lb)
Sonik extractor 10ft 3lb
Shimano tx 2 10ft 3lb
The Shimano and Fs Ctx was just not fun at all to land a carp with, Dwarf with 7 guides have a nice bend the 3lb felt more like most 2.5 rod, Daiwa is a step higer but price is also x 2 even in 3lb it have a nice bent and dont feel stiff the dwarf felt abit softer but the Daiwa is more stable in the tip and cast a little more accurately, I recommend the Sonik over the Tx-2 and Ctx, but for those few Euro/pound more the Dwarf is a better choice.
The Ctx was the biggest disappointment, the new shinny blacks are diffrent compared to the old matt ones
I don't give a **** about brands as long as it's good, Nash has a lot of junk but the Dwarf models from 2020 are not one of them.
Since fishing with 10ft rods I no longer see the need to use 12ft or i have to fish beyond 95yard, but 90% I fish on channels now so I barely have to fish beyond 95m
10ft i have used so far:
Fs Ctx 10ft 2.75lb
Dwarf 10ft 3lb
Daiwa Cast izm 10ft 3lb (the are also in 2.5lb)
Sonik extractor 10ft 3lb
Shimano tx 2 10ft 3lb
The Shimano and Fs Ctx was just not fun at all to land a carp with, Dwarf with 7 guides have a nice bend the 3lb felt more like most 2.5 rod, Daiwa is a step higer but price is also x 2 even in 3lb it have a nice bent and dont feel stiff the dwarf felt abit softer but the Daiwa is more stable in the tip and cast a little more accurately, I recommend the Sonik over the Tx-2 and Ctx, but for those few Euro/pound more the Dwarf is a better choice.
The Ctx was the biggest disappointment, the new shinny blacks are diffrent compared to the old matt ones
In reply to Post #12
Completely different situation imo as you need the extra length to keep more line out of the water when river fishing. I find 10ft is the ideal length for my carp fishing but I wouldn't choose a retractable type rod.
Completely different situation imo as you need the extra length to keep more line out of the water when river fishing. I find 10ft is the ideal length for my carp fishing but I wouldn't choose a retractable type rod.
In reply to Post #12
Makes you wonder just how we coped before the short rod fad started.......
Makes you wonder just how we coped before the short rod fad started.......
In reply to Post #15
Depends how far you want to go back I suppose as to what length a carp rod ‘should' be.
Depends how far you want to go back I suppose as to what length a carp rod ‘should' be.
In reply to Post #17
Although haven't used one properly, I picked up and bent into a Free spirit ES 2.5lb, and it feels beautiful. (I suggested this rod but it's over Oatcakes price range, so edited out.)
The ES blank is fairly through actioned - more than anything else I can find (I own the 2.75lb), and you can feel it on this 10 footer.
Although haven't used one properly, I picked up and bent into a Free spirit ES 2.5lb, and it feels beautiful. (I suggested this rod but it's over Oatcakes price range, so edited out.)
The ES blank is fairly through actioned - more than anything else I can find (I own the 2.75lb), and you can feel it on this 10 footer.
In reply to Post #17
I couldn't agree more a- we started with 10ft rods and then went to 11, 12, 13 as longer range fishing was required. Without the reels back in day it would have been pointless having a longer / stiffer rod.
I wanted some bendy 10 footers over 20 years ago and none were available, I spoke with various rod manufactures and Steve (?) Harrison was by far the best. I told him what I wanted and whilst he confirmed that there were none off the shelf he said he could sell me the top 2 sections of a 15ft salmon rod. i bought a pair and still use them occasionally, they are exactly as OP is looking for, no test curve but my guess when new would be around 2lb maybe slightly under.
A few years later the Nash Pursuit came out in 10 foot, and since then the trend has gone upwards in terms of TC and ring sizes. The comments about direct contact with fish, casting accurately are so true, the only obvious downside is if you need that extra 10-20 yards you are screwed - I fish mine comfortably at around 70 maybe 80 yards with a 2oz lead and that is the longest chuck on the lake I use them on.
I couldn't agree more a- we started with 10ft rods and then went to 11, 12, 13 as longer range fishing was required. Without the reels back in day it would have been pointless having a longer / stiffer rod.
I wanted some bendy 10 footers over 20 years ago and none were available, I spoke with various rod manufactures and Steve (?) Harrison was by far the best. I told him what I wanted and whilst he confirmed that there were none off the shelf he said he could sell me the top 2 sections of a 15ft salmon rod. i bought a pair and still use them occasionally, they are exactly as OP is looking for, no test curve but my guess when new would be around 2lb maybe slightly under.
A few years later the Nash Pursuit came out in 10 foot, and since then the trend has gone upwards in terms of TC and ring sizes. The comments about direct contact with fish, casting accurately are so true, the only obvious downside is if you need that extra 10-20 yards you are screwed - I fish mine comfortably at around 70 maybe 80 yards with a 2oz lead and that is the longest chuck on the lake I use them on.
In reply to Post #18
The free spirit ES is 2.75tc and 12ft with a firm progressive action so not really what Fred is looking for.
The free spirit ES is 2.75tc and 12ft with a firm progressive action so not really what Fred is looking for.
In reply to Post #20
Waa? Read my post again.
Sorry should have said it was 10 ft .
Waa? Read my post again.
Sorry should have said it was 10 ft .
In reply to Post #1
Harrison torrix customs 10' 3.5 tc cork handles great par of rods
Harrison torrix customs 10' 3.5 tc cork handles great par of rods
In reply to Post #22
Fits in his budget also 😀
Fits in his budget also 😀
https://www.bobcotackle.co.uk/carp/rods/pro-logic
There's a couple of models in that size.
There's a couple of models in that size.
In reply to Post #22
That model certainly is not an all round rod , he does,nt want to spend alot on rods but if he could afford them the 10ft ballista stalker 2.75 t.c is a much better option , excellent fish playing tools.
That model certainly is not an all round rod , he does,nt want to spend alot on rods but if he could afford them the 10ft ballista stalker 2.75 t.c is a much better option , excellent fish playing tools.
In reply to Post #25
Or the 12ft 2.25tc torrix is bliss to fish with, so far removed from the 10ft 3.5tc.
Or the 12ft 2.25tc torrix is bliss to fish with, so far removed from the 10ft 3.5tc.
In reply to Post #26
That is the best rod in the torrix range in my opinion
That is the best rod in the torrix range in my opinion
Thanks for all of your responses chaps, looks like I have a bit of thinking to do.
Any additional responses welcome. 😀
Any additional responses welcome. 😀
In reply to Post #28
I impulsively ordered two 10ft 2.5lb free spirit e class rods yesterday. I know they're slightly above you initially stated budget but I'll let you know my thoughts when they arrive.
I impulsively ordered two 10ft 2.5lb free spirit e class rods yesterday. I know they're slightly above you initially stated budget but I'll let you know my thoughts when they arrive.
In reply to Post #29
Thanks Joel, would appreciate any feedback. Hope my thread wasn't responsible for your impulse buy
Thanks Joel, would appreciate any feedback. Hope my thread wasn't responsible for your impulse buy
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