So the last 6 months ive been making my own bait and hook baits and deffinitly had a couple failures on the way 😂. I do feel now though ive got a couple of things in happy to go into the season with.
If im making my own bait i do it partly for the added joy of catching on my own bait and striving to make a better bait than an average £10 per kg and £5 pot of hook baits. Its not just for saving cash although i do understand people do it for this reason aswell.
The more i get into it the more i realise the combinations and ingredients are endless!!
Has anybody got any particular flavours they love and where do you get the from as they are definitly not all equal. Im after a cream and a peach flavour myself at the moment.
Im also interested in what essential oils and acids people like to use. Im only recently startong to get into acids so any information on this would be great👍🏻👍🏻
If im making my own bait i do it partly for the added joy of catching on my own bait and striving to make a better bait than an average £10 per kg and £5 pot of hook baits. Its not just for saving cash although i do understand people do it for this reason aswell.
The more i get into it the more i realise the combinations and ingredients are endless!!
Has anybody got any particular flavours they love and where do you get the from as they are definitly not all equal. Im after a cream and a peach flavour myself at the moment.
Im also interested in what essential oils and acids people like to use. Im only recently startong to get into acids so any information on this would be great👍🏻👍🏻
You don't really need to look further than John Baker. All the hard work done , years and years of fine tuning . Anyone who starts out thinking making your own bait saves money often finds out otherwise . Can't beat home made of done right.
In reply to Post #1
Peach Melba from Premier Baits has caught a few over the years.
John Baker Dairy Cream.
Scopex if you can find a reputable source.
Oils4life is a good place to start for essential oils.
Peach Melba from Premier Baits has caught a few over the years.
John Baker Dairy Cream.
Scopex if you can find a reputable source.
Oils4life is a good place to start for essential oils.
I wouldn't get to hung up on certain flavour profiles. The best baits in my opinion start and finish with the main powders and would not require the addition of extra flavours. I'm far from an expert but over the last few years I've played around a fair bit with certain things. I've noticed that flavours in a long term bait have very little noticeable difference on catch rate. If your looking for a short term bait almost acting as a lure then I would be more inclined to use a flavour.
But as mentioned JB is the one for flavours he has recently added a peach to his range that may be of interest to you.
But as mentioned JB is the one for flavours he has recently added a peach to his range that may be of interest to you.
In reply to Post #1
I'll answer the specific question re cream flavours, three products I know work very very well are
Scopex from Nash baits, you might struggle to find this as its discontinued but you might find a bottle ot two.
Condensed milk by mainline
Buttercream from Biologic baits
I've been specific because I've tried enough alternative suppliers to know effectiveness can vary massively from one supplier to the next and these three stand out.
I've never used a peach flavour but if I was to I'd start with the peach melba from Premier baits.
I'll answer the specific question re cream flavours, three products I know work very very well are
Scopex from Nash baits, you might struggle to find this as its discontinued but you might find a bottle ot two.
Condensed milk by mainline
Buttercream from Biologic baits
I've been specific because I've tried enough alternative suppliers to know effectiveness can vary massively from one supplier to the next and these three stand out.
I've never used a peach flavour but if I was to I'd start with the peach melba from Premier baits.
In reply to Post #5
Bait Bro's Cornish Cream EA is 😍
I use it alongside Garlic EO in a bait I'm playing around with. Initial results are good.....
Bait Bro's Cornish Cream EA is 😍
I use it alongside Garlic EO in a bait I'm playing around with. Initial results are good.....
Thanks for the help guys. I thought J.B would be a top pick i have the ala salar and plum and they are very good.
Also interested in the peach melba and a couple of the creams mentioned. Ive had some flavours off biologic before and found them really good.
Interested in the bait bros aswell. Ive been looking at a couple of theres but no body had any feed back for me.
Also interested in the peach melba and a couple of the creams mentioned. Ive had some flavours off biologic before and found them really good.
Interested in the bait bros aswell. Ive been looking at a couple of theres but no body had any feed back for me.
In reply to Post #1
Cinnamon Essential Oil and Peach Flavour. Used on a food bait for long term results.
I did use Nutrabaits Peach, but after Bill Cottam left stopped and went to the latest Rod Hutchinson flavours.
Rod Hutchinson Mega Spice and Verselle Laga Garlic Oil are my homemade boosted pop-ups. Used that for many years.
Cinnamon Essential Oil and Peach Flavour. Used on a food bait for long term results.
I did use Nutrabaits Peach, but after Bill Cottam left stopped and went to the latest Rod Hutchinson flavours.
Rod Hutchinson Mega Spice and Verselle Laga Garlic Oil are my homemade boosted pop-ups. Used that for many years.
In reply to Post #8
Ive got some mega spice that garlic oil i might try knock some up now 👍🏻
Ive got some mega spice that garlic oil i might try knock some up now 👍🏻
In reply to Post #3
another vote for Prem's Peach Melba, i used to roll my own using their gear and that flavour was defo a stand out one
the other i used to use was Strawberry jam and cornish ice cream by SBS
another vote for Prem's Peach Melba, i used to roll my own using their gear and that flavour was defo a stand out one
the other i used to use was Strawberry jam and cornish ice cream by SBS
In reply to Post #7
If you listen to the podcasts, they do have a vague idea of how to put a flavour together!
Its worth talking to them, they're better placed to know what's best to combine with theirs.
If you listen to the podcasts, they do have a vague idea of how to put a flavour together!
Its worth talking to them, they're better placed to know what's best to combine with theirs.
In reply to Post #7
Johns plum flavour is exceptional
Johns plum flavour is exceptional
In reply to Post #7
Bait bros flavours are extremely potent so the levels will be minute. Makes them more affordable. The strawbamo is being tried but too soon to give any conclusions.
Bait bros flavours are extremely potent so the levels will be minute. Makes them more affordable. The strawbamo is being tried but too soon to give any conclusions.
If the OP wants some samples I'll happily send you some if you cover postage (£3.60).
I have been sending out samples for free but it gets pricey!
Sam
Carp Chronicles
PS I haven't used Johns Peach but having talking to him about it quite a bit I'd definitely give it a go.
He's put a lot of effort into it. His Butringer flavour is good for a cream aspect but of course I'd choose our Cream Dream or Cornish Cream over that because I'm heavily biased
I have been sending out samples for free but it gets pricey!
Sam
Carp Chronicles
PS I haven't used Johns Peach but having talking to him about it quite a bit I'd definitely give it a go.
He's put a lot of effort into it. His Butringer flavour is good for a cream aspect but of course I'd choose our Cream Dream or Cornish Cream over that because I'm heavily biased
In reply to Post #14
if that would be ok then ill definitely take you up on that offer. to be honest I've been learning a lot about making my bait whilst listening to you pissed on the podcast
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if I send you a P.M could I also grab a bottle of the Cornish Cream and combine the postage?
ill give Johns Peach ago then by a lot of peoples recommendations. I already use a couple of flavours so im definitely happy with his standard.
if that would be ok then ill definitely take you up on that offer. to be honest I've been learning a lot about making my bait whilst listening to you pissed on the podcast
.if I send you a P.M could I also grab a bottle of the Cornish Cream and combine the postage?
ill give Johns Peach ago then by a lot of peoples recommendations. I already use a couple of flavours so im definitely happy with his standard.
In reply to Post #15
Where abouts are you in the midlands buddy drop me a message if needed. Got around 25-30 flavours at mine your welcome to take samples and try them out see how you get on. All from various suppliers and a few custom ones from flavour houses.
Where abouts are you in the midlands buddy drop me a message if needed. Got around 25-30 flavours at mine your welcome to take samples and try them out see how you get on. All from various suppliers and a few custom ones from flavour houses.
In reply to Post #15
Yeah no problem.
Yeah no problem.
In reply to Post #16
I'm living in Sedgley/Gornal (by Dudley if that helps lol) thank you very much for the offer that would be brilliant. nice to talk to people who know more about all this than me as I feel I'm banging my head a lot with bait .
its not a side of the hobby that the people I know/fish with are interested in. most people just want to be bait testers now and get stuff a couple quid cheaper.
I'm living in Sedgley/Gornal (by Dudley if that helps lol) thank you very much for the offer that would be brilliant. nice to talk to people who know more about all this than me as I feel I'm banging my head a lot with bait
.its not a side of the hobby that the people I know/fish with are interested in. most people just want to be bait testers now and get stuff a couple quid cheaper.
What about Rod Hutchinsons PERSONAL,scopex flavour from his shed..after his passing RIP..
Anyone interested in using it ?.
Anyone interested in using it ?.
In reply to Post #19
Nice memento for sure, but I wouldn't put it in a bait, it will be well past its best.
Nice memento for sure, but I wouldn't put it in a bait, it will be well past its best.
In reply to Post #20
Totally my thoughts too..
Anyone interested in a sample bottle or 100ml of it..
Look on Vintage carp fishing tackle.com on the accessories page..
Totally my thoughts too..
Anyone interested in a sample bottle or 100ml of it..
Look on Vintage carp fishing tackle.com on the accessories page..
In reply to Post #18
Personally I think you need to get the base mix bang on first, then worry about the flavour. It seems to be a thing to catch the carper more than the carp?
That said there are some great flavours out there. Anything oleoresin is usually a good bet. My vote though goes for a nice plum flavour on an HNV fishmeal base.
I've got my flavours from Catchit labs, who supply to bait companies. They do smaller bottles (50/100 ml) on eBay for around a fiver, and are extremely concentrated.Also available here - https://www.catchitlabs.co.uk/smaller-quantities/
Personally I think you need to get the base mix bang on first, then worry about the flavour. It seems to be a thing to catch the carper more than the carp?
That said there are some great flavours out there. Anything oleoresin is usually a good bet. My vote though goes for a nice plum flavour on an HNV fishmeal base.
I've got my flavours from Catchit labs, who supply to bait companies. They do smaller bottles (50/100 ml) on eBay for around a fiver, and are extremely concentrated.Also available here - https://www.catchitlabs.co.uk/smaller-quantities/
In reply to Post #22
I use JB Plumb and Ala Salar on the HMBB Trop at the moment for my bait.
the reason I want a play with a few new flavours is mainly for Pop ups/Wafters and 1 egg mixes
I use JB Plumb and Ala Salar on the HMBB Trop at the moment for my bait.
the reason I want a play with a few new flavours is mainly for Pop ups/Wafters and 1 egg mixes
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