This young lass is an incredible breath of fresh air, for the carping fraternity 
I´d rather watch all her videos on youtube, than wasting countless hours watching egotistical, so called high profile anglers, full of themselves.
This young lass is going places ... stay real Sophie, and enjoy the ride 
I´d rather watch all her videos on youtube, than wasting countless hours watching egotistical, so called high profile anglers, full of themselves.
This young lass is going places ... stay real Sophie, and enjoy the ride
In reply to Post #1
I have seen the odd video floating around on social media, obviously she enjoys it, and that all that matters, but I must admit, as a father, posting videos up for randoms online to view is something I wouldnt be prepared to do with my daughter. Horses for courses I suppose
I have seen the odd video floating around on social media, obviously she enjoys it, and that all that matters, but I must admit, as a father, posting videos up for randoms online to view is something I wouldnt be prepared to do with my daughter. Horses for courses I suppose
In reply to Post #2
In a way, I tend to agree.
I also have no doubt that she will, or already has been earmarked for financial gain from companies.
In a way, I tend to agree.
I also have no doubt that she will, or already has been earmarked for financial gain from companies.
In reply to Post #3
It's nice for them to record their fishing
But it's everywhere on Facebook , loads of groups and pages .
It's nice for them to record their fishing
But it's everywhere on Facebook , loads of groups and pages .
It's great the little girl enjoys fishing but it feels a bit like the Dad is using her love of fishing in exchange for some free swivels and a hoody.
In reply to Post #5
In reply to Post #5
Understand exactly what you guys mean, and unfortunately, the good comes with the bad
In this day and age, parents tend to "groom" their young`uns, at an early age, to excel at whatever sport they choose to proceed with, be it tennis, golf, footy etc. The outcome isn´t just for fame or financial gain, but that seems to have taken over completely, unfortunately. 
True sportsmanship has gone out the window, replaced by 6-7figure contracts I enjoyed watching footy, way back, when the likes of Glenn Hoddle, Ossie Ardilles, Ricky Villa, Keegan etc had the crowd on their feet. Then came the bookies fixed matches, modelling sideshows etc. Money corrupted the sport 
Young´uns flashing Patek Philippe and Rolex watches, and speeding in Lykan Hypersports, Bentley Mulliner Bacalars, Ferrari Monzas etc, of which some of em can´t even spell properly 
That´s all left a bad taste in me mouth, and i no longer watch footy as much as i used to ... sad state of affairs.
There´s a fine line, when it comes down to "pimping" your young´un on social media, or documenting your kids progression and love for the sport. Unfortunately, social media decides which group you fit into, once the light shines on you. Nowadays flippin´ influencers are getting paid millions for advertising crap, and high profile carp anglers are getting free hooks and munga
Sofie seems to be enjoying her sport, and if someone decides to "support" her in her future progression, then it´s upto dad to make a wise decision
Understand exactly what you guys mean, and unfortunately, the good comes with the bad
In this day and age, parents tend to "groom" their young`uns, at an early age, to excel at whatever sport they choose to proceed with, be it tennis, golf, footy etc. The outcome isn´t just for fame or financial gain, but that seems to have taken over completely, unfortunately. True sportsmanship has gone out the window, replaced by 6-7figure contracts
I enjoyed watching footy, way back, when the likes of Glenn Hoddle, Ossie Ardilles, Ricky Villa, Keegan etc had the crowd on their feet. Then came the bookies fixed matches, modelling sideshows etc. Money corrupted the sport Young´uns flashing Patek Philippe and Rolex watches, and speeding in Lykan Hypersports, Bentley Mulliner Bacalars, Ferrari Monzas etc, of which some of em can´t even spell properly That´s all left a bad taste in me mouth, and i no longer watch footy as much as i used to ... sad state of affairs.There´s a fine line, when it comes down to "pimping" your young´un on social media, or documenting your kids progression and love for the sport. Unfortunately, social media decides which group you fit into, once the light shines on you. Nowadays flippin´ influencers are getting paid millions for advertising crap, and high profile carp anglers are getting free hooks and munga
Sofie seems to be enjoying her sport, and if someone decides to "support" her in her future progression, then it´s upto dad to make a wise decision
Got to admit I find it a bit awkward just feel it's more the dad pushing her for the game than actually her
In reply to Post #5
You can clearly see she absolutely loves it, the dad's supportive, clearly loves fishing too, there's no harm in what they're doing, it's a breath of fresh air, I think pimping the daughter out is a bit strong. They've built a following and they get given free stuff, same as any other free sponsorship.
You can clearly see she absolutely loves it, the dad's supportive, clearly loves fishing too, there's no harm in what they're doing, it's a breath of fresh air, I think pimping the daughter out is a bit strong. They've built a following and they get given free stuff, same as any other free sponsorship.
In reply to Post #9
Well I'm all sticky baited out so a change is as good as a rest
Well I'm all sticky baited out so a change is as good as a rest
In reply to Post #9
I think you're being a touch naive about it, once pictures and videos are uploaded, they are essentially online forever. The world is a horrible place and so is social media, probably even worse, with truly horrible people lurking in the depths.
Personally I dont see why the dad just doesn't share the pics and videos with family and friends, I genuinely cant see what the benefit is by sharing it in multiple fishing groups
I think you're being a touch naive about it, once pictures and videos are uploaded, they are essentially online forever. The world is a horrible place and so is social media, probably even worse, with truly horrible people lurking in the depths.
Personally I dont see why the dad just doesn't share the pics and videos with family and friends, I genuinely cant see what the benefit is by sharing it in multiple fishing groups
In reply to Post #8
nothing wrong with being pushed in outdoor activities.. to many kids suffer because of being stuck in houses all their time.
nothing wrong with being pushed in outdoor activities.. to many kids suffer because of being stuck in houses all their time.
In reply to Post #12
I agree, but you can do that without getting your daughter to plug products to a camera.
I agree, but you can do that without getting your daughter to plug products to a camera.
In reply to Post #11
And she wouldn't get the opportunities that she's had? Off the top of my head, they fish some pretty exclusive waters, she's fished with the England woman's team and gets free stuff, she might even get a bit of pocket money out of it too. It's hardly a chore for her and she loves it.
I can't see how it's any different to any competitive sport and children competing.
And she wouldn't get the opportunities that she's had? Off the top of my head, they fish some pretty exclusive waters, she's fished with the England woman's team and gets free stuff, she might even get a bit of pocket money out of it too. It's hardly a chore for her and she loves it.
I can't see how it's any different to any competitive sport and children competing.
Internet trolls would be my concern, but maybe kids are used to that kind of thing these days.
In reply to Post #14
How old is she? 8? what opportunities does an 8 year old really need in fishing? And as others have alluded to, why do you think she might get free stuff?? You also cant compare angling with competitive sports, because simply it isnt a competition
How old is she? 8? what opportunities does an 8 year old really need in fishing? And as others have alluded to, why do you think she might get free stuff?? You also cant compare angling with competitive sports, because simply it isnt a competition
In reply to Post #15
Seems like full grown men in this thread are the trolling a kid enjoying herself are the ones that need watching.
Seems like full grown men in this thread are the trolling a kid enjoying herself are the ones that need watching.
In reply to Post #17
Ah the trolling card now being thrown about, normally used when someone cant counter in a discussion.
Ah the trolling card now being thrown about, normally used when someone cant counter in a discussion.
In reply to Post #18
If it was just to share and document your child's live of fishing , why spam it to every page and group . There is no harm in it , and other than the early ones where it looked fun as she hung on , now I don't bother to look at link and videos as it looks to "set up" rather than just having a phone handy . Like all free videos , the choice is your 👍
If it was just to share and document your child's live of fishing , why spam it to every page and group . There is no harm in it , and other than the early ones where it looked fun as she hung on , now I don't bother to look at link and videos as it looks to "set up" rather than just having a phone handy . Like all free videos , the choice is your 👍
In reply to Post #1
Each to their own, but if any or all of my daughters enjoyed fishing (i have 3 and they dont lol) I'd be more inclined to enjoy the time spent together rather then filming it and plastering it on social media. As already pointed out, some free PVA and a hoody isn't worth it. I'd rather enjoy the special time with my kid without all the social media and 'sponsorship' BS.
Each to their own, but if any or all of my daughters enjoyed fishing (i have 3 and they dont lol) I'd be more inclined to enjoy the time spent together rather then filming it and plastering it on social media. As already pointed out, some free PVA and a hoody isn't worth it. I'd rather enjoy the special time with my kid without all the social media and 'sponsorship' BS.
In reply to Post #20
but that is you... people are different and have different values in life... and thank god for that... otherwise we would all walk around doing same things.
but that is you... people are different and have different values in life... and thank god for that... otherwise we would all walk around doing same things.
In reply to Post #21
hence 'each to their own'
hence 'each to their own'
We don't blank.😉
In reply to Post #20
I do agree in a way, although I do have pictures of my children fishing. My youngest daughter and son with their first fish, him with big chub and perch and my eldest daughter throwing lures out with a spinning rod and multiplier, her first 20lb carp.
I think that we have the social media culture, everything we do has to go on Facebook, Instagram or Tiktok etc, and that is the norm.
Yes there is the pride, but we have also forgotten personal privacy, everything we do is easily available.
I do agree in a way, although I do have pictures of my children fishing. My youngest daughter and son with their first fish, him with big chub and perch and my eldest daughter throwing lures out with a spinning rod and multiplier, her first 20lb carp.
I think that we have the social media culture, everything we do has to go on Facebook, Instagram or Tiktok etc, and that is the norm.
Yes there is the pride, but we have also forgotten personal privacy, everything we do is easily available.
I've met Sophie and her dad and she seems a very pleasant and polite young lady.
Personally I don't like the whole coming up with 'Sophie the carp catching kid' thing and setting out to make her a fishing celebrity. Just doesn't sit well.
Like I say she's a nice kid and dad seemed nice enough to.
Personally I don't like the whole coming up with 'Sophie the carp catching kid' thing and setting out to make her a fishing celebrity. Just doesn't sit well.
Like I say she's a nice kid and dad seemed nice enough to.
In reply to Post #25
Doesn't sit right with me either, nowt wrong with getting kids out fishing, but the social media thing, mmm. Also what happened to starting out fishing for silver, trotting a float etc, and the other thing that concerns me a tad is the pics you see of these young kids holding 20lb plus carp (well any carp really), if it throws a fit fit no way she's keeping hold of it.
Doesn't sit right with me either, nowt wrong with getting kids out fishing, but the social media thing, mmm. Also what happened to starting out fishing for silver, trotting a float etc, and the other thing that concerns me a tad is the pics you see of these young kids holding 20lb plus carp (well any carp really), if it throws a fit fit no way she's keeping hold of it.
Bit of a puppet in my opinion if you want to take your children fishing fantastic and record their experience great but not something i would do to make it public shear it with friends and family on Facebook but that's as far as I would want it to go.
In reply to Post #27
Unfortunately, these are the times of "social media", especially for kids, who need to be thoroughly monitored, otherwise the perv and his deviant neighbour gonna have a ball
Remember the days, way back then, when mum brought out the photo album for the guests Baby pics in me birthday suit Imagine if social media was in, back then
Unfortunately, these are the times of "social media", especially for kids, who need to be thoroughly monitored, otherwise the perv and his deviant neighbour gonna have a ball
Remember the days, way back then, when mum brought out the photo album for the guests
Baby pics in me birthday suit Imagine if social media was in, back then 
In reply to Post #27
My eldest son now 41 and grandson aged 12 eat sleep and breath fishing/angling, carp, pike, fly, sea, river, canal, you name it they do it. My grandson is pretty damn good but you won't see him on any magic tele, they do it for their own pleasure.
My eldest son now 41 and grandson aged 12 eat sleep and breath fishing/angling, carp, pike, fly, sea, river, canal, you name it they do it. My grandson is pretty damn good but you won't see him on any magic tele, they do it for their own pleasure.
she obviously likes fishing but definitely has the vibe of a pushy parenting,like he's trying to get her signed up by company's etc
I can't believe some of the views and opinions in this thread!
Sophie is obviously well into her angling and has a fair amount of natural talent for it. Her dad is obviously very proud of her (as he should be) and uses social media to express this. Fair play in my book. Most people use social media to express their lives in some way or another and I take my hat off to the bloke for being a good dad and spending his time making memories with his daughter. Priceless!
Get a life people and stop judging others.
Sophie is obviously well into her angling and has a fair amount of natural talent for it. Her dad is obviously very proud of her (as he should be) and uses social media to express this. Fair play in my book. Most people use social media to express their lives in some way or another and I take my hat off to the bloke for being a good dad and spending his time making memories with his daughter. Priceless!
Get a life people and stop judging others.
In reply to Post #31
Yup, knocking an 8 year old.
Yup, knocking an 8 year old.
In reply to Post #32
Nobody is knocking a 8 year old , it's not the 8 year old who is spaming all pages and groups is it . As iv posted before , they are free to watch , and your free to skip past 👍
Nobody is knocking a 8 year old , it's not the 8 year old who is spaming all pages and groups is it . As iv posted before , they are free to watch , and your free to skip past 👍
It's all very sad,a parent is that desperate to get a free pot of fish food he is willing to put his daughter all over social media
In reply to Post #31
Your idea of good dad are different to mine.
Enjoy your time with your kids. This is the fishing version of Dance Mom's.
Your idea of good dad are different to mine.
Enjoy your time with your kids. This is the fishing version of Dance Mom's.
In reply to Post #35
Totally agree
Totally agree
Without having watched it, because it seems a bit creepy. Anyone with young kids will know of Alex & Gabby or Ryan's world, these kids pull in millions each year with their videos; what parent wouldn't want a slice of that action!? The difference is they are doing kids stuff and broadcasting it to kids.
But without seeing it and going by the fact it's predominantly a pastime enjoyed by, to be polite, opinionated dirty old men. I wouldn't want my kids to be watched, judged, spoke about in a derogatory way and have people imply they're being PIMPED. That's the most disgusting term anyone could've chosen. This girl already can and no doubt will read these comments.
But without seeing it and going by the fact it's predominantly a pastime enjoyed by, to be polite, opinionated dirty old men. I wouldn't want my kids to be watched, judged, spoke about in a derogatory way and have people imply they're being PIMPED. That's the most disgusting term anyone could've chosen. This girl already can and no doubt will read these comments.
In reply to Post #37
Point taken, I've edited my post, it was the first word that came to me, I probably could have used a better one
Point taken, I've edited my post, it was the first word that came to me, I probably could have used a better one
In reply to Post #37
ive not watched it, nor will, totally not interested at all in all the dam VLOGS or whatever they call them.
Good luck to Her (or do i mean her Dad
) in whatever he seeks
ive not watched it, nor will, totally not interested at all in all the dam VLOGS or whatever they call them.
Good luck to Her (or do i mean her Dad
) in whatever he seeks
In reply to Post #39
All he seeks is getting a bit of fishing time with his daughter and documenting it, the girl absolutely loves it, still can't see what everyone's getting wound up about.
All he seeks is getting a bit of fishing time with his daughter and documenting it, the girl absolutely loves it, still can't see what everyone's getting wound up about.
In reply to Post #40
Are people getting wound up?
Are people getting wound up?
In reply to Post #40
i wasnt debating what he seeks
i wasnt debating what he seeks
No idea how I've never seen or heard of these two, I will have a look tonight.
In reply to Post #40
Youtube carp angling fame hunters are bad enough, begging for sponsorship from the latest particle baron or PVA punter, but when someone brings their daughter into it, who lets be honest is too young to understand or make her own judgement, it doesn't sit right with me and obviously some others too. Its not that hard to understand surely?
Youtube carp angling fame hunters are bad enough, begging for sponsorship from the latest particle baron or PVA punter, but when someone brings their daughter into it, who lets be honest is too young to understand or make her own judgement, it doesn't sit right with me and obviously some others too. Its not that hard to understand surely?
In reply to Post #44
Dear Sophie, if you are or will read these comments, either now or in the near future, please excuse the negativity being spread by pathetic old men, longing for some attention
These sorry ol ´ disgruntled men have had abit too much Stella this evening. Instead of spreading negativity, they should spend more quality time on the bank, with their kids
Keep enjoying your favourite pastime with your dad, and cherish those special memories
Dear Sophie, if you are or will read these comments, either now or in the near future, please excuse the negativity being spread by pathetic old men, longing for some attention
These sorry ol ´ disgruntled men have had abit too much Stella this evening. Instead of spreading negativity, they should spend more quality time on the bank, with their kids Keep enjoying your favourite pastime with your dad, and cherish those special memories
In reply to Post #40
I don't think it's that aspect anyone is getting wound up about. If it was just to document their adventures then why not just post the vids on their family and friends FB feed? It's spammed across multiple groups, and that clearly is looking for views/sponsorship/monetising the channel.
It's a different world we live in now and there's real money to be made doing this stuff, there's nothing wrong with that but it does make you wonder how many of these young kids with their parents constantly knocking out videos, and the pressure to keep producing new material get fed up with it all eventually.
I don't think it's that aspect anyone is getting wound up about. If it was just to document their adventures then why not just post the vids on their family and friends FB feed? It's spammed across multiple groups, and that clearly is looking for views/sponsorship/monetising the channel.
It's a different world we live in now and there's real money to be made doing this stuff, there's nothing wrong with that but it does make you wonder how many of these young kids with their parents constantly knocking out videos, and the pressure to keep producing new material get fed up with it all eventually.
In reply to Post #46
and the pressure to keep producing new material get fed up with it all eventually.
I think a lot of older anglers go through that as well, especially with angling being such a niche market. You can only film the same water a few times before 'you' and your viewers get fed up with that.
Let's face it, normally only anglers will watch a specialist video or programme with a few exceptions, John Wilson being a rare one, although Mortimer and Whitehouse came close (yes after criticism i made on another thread I did just say that), they did gain non angling viewers.
It is pretty much only fishing that gives away 'freebies', and being a full time angler is not going to give you a living out of it, again with a few exceptions.
Catch a big fish and get free tackle and bait has been going on for years, Anglers Mail, Angling Times, Mainline monthly awards in CarpTalk, or even letter of the month in Carp World.
We do seem to have become dependant on social media and influencers which does not sit right with me; everyone wants their '15minutes of fame' for life, and we are educating our children into the same.
Your whole life on social media, from birth to death on Facebook...
Sophie may or may not have the choice, her father may be pressing her into fishing, as many parents do, every week: "Come on son, tackle him, shoot".
Not every footballing child is going to be the next Harry Kane or Marcus Rashford. Sophie could be in that (fishing) bracket or she may get fed up with it.
and the pressure to keep producing new material get fed up with it all eventually.
I think a lot of older anglers go through that as well, especially with angling being such a niche market. You can only film the same water a few times before 'you' and your viewers get fed up with that.
Let's face it, normally only anglers will watch a specialist video or programme with a few exceptions, John Wilson being a rare one, although Mortimer and Whitehouse came close (yes after criticism i made on another thread I did just say that), they did gain non angling viewers.
It is pretty much only fishing that gives away 'freebies', and being a full time angler is not going to give you a living out of it, again with a few exceptions.
Catch a big fish and get free tackle and bait has been going on for years, Anglers Mail, Angling Times, Mainline monthly awards in CarpTalk, or even letter of the month in Carp World.
We do seem to have become dependant on social media and influencers which does not sit right with me; everyone wants their '15minutes of fame' for life, and we are educating our children into the same.
Your whole life on social media, from birth to death on Facebook...
Sophie may or may not have the choice, her father may be pressing her into fishing, as many parents do, every week: "Come on son, tackle him, shoot".
Not every footballing child is going to be the next Harry Kane or Marcus Rashford. Sophie could be in that (fishing) bracket or she may get fed up with it.
well, ive just watched a 40second video and so this is first impressions .. so hearing her Dad shout "Oh sh*t the other rod is going off Soph, sh*t Soph the other rod!!" so not a great start for me and she's already using the dreaded so called carp angler jargon like "banger" etc .... just awful! 
edit .... Ok, just watched another video ... and i stand a little corrected .... she is quite infectious and has a great smile .... difficult to not be charmed by her
edit .... Ok, just watched another video ... and i stand a little corrected .... she is quite infectious and has a great smile .... difficult to not be charmed by her
In reply to Post #48
Watched a few short clips no real opinnion other than it's a bit awkward and it seems like he's making her do the videos but she's not really comfortable with it yet?
Watched a few short clips no real opinnion other than it's a bit awkward and it seems like he's making her do the videos but she's not really comfortable with it yet?
In reply to Post #48
Banger, wow soon be writing for carpogy
Banger, wow soon be writing for carpogy
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