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Baitboat advice (32 posts / 6,153 views)
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #1 28 Oct 2021 11:42
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I'm fishing a large gravel pit this winter. My spots are at 80 and 100 yards. Is there a product that will allow me to send my bait out in the dark, without lights (cough) and return to my feet? It sounds fanciful and space age but I understand there are gps items that could do that.
Thanks
ip100 ip100
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Post #2 28 Oct 2021 11:49
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Yes, there are autopilot systems available. No idea about any of them but I'm sure someone will post who does soon enough
CarpHippy
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Post #3 28 Oct 2021 11:53
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Just search bait boats with gps.
Future carping v60 is one depends what money you have to spend.
framey framey
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Post #4 28 Oct 2021 12:32
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I think angling technics have a plug in system
TeeCee
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Post #5 28 Oct 2021 13:03
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"without lights".

Hmm, what are you up to young man?

I've bleated on here about the ND bait boat.2, but for the money, like out of the box autopilot, 3kg payload, you're looking at £549. You can pay an extra £200 for the same features for it to work with an iPad or Android device with the difference being you can save more than just the 4 spots that the handset saves. If you've got a deeper, you can buy ND's attachment which is pretty cheap.

If you want more speed, Fish Eye Camera does a speed kit that's £50 all in. Basically you just remove the old props and replace them with the supplied ones plus their rear pipes.
daviduk daviduk
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Post #6 28 Oct 2021 17:03
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If your budget will stretch to £3000 + , take a look at the Carplounge V4
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #7 28 Oct 2021 17:19
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seems a great price for a Boat that comes with the ability for 16 saved GPS LOCATIONS and a colour fish finder all included for

£650 I paid nearly that just for a add on GPS for one of my 4 bait boats not that long ago

getting great reviews LINKY POO
ticker ticker
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Post #8 28 Oct 2021 18:19
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look at the actor brilliant for the money.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #9 28 Oct 2021 18:56
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Google sptackle autopilot they do one which will work with most prop boats. Their app only works on android if you already have a boat your happy about this maybe the cheaper way to go.

One thing for sure there are a lot more bait boats made by so many companies now. It will be interesting how the newer models fair and if those companies will still be around.
RandyMcH RandyMcH
Posts: 373
Post #10 28 Oct 2021 20:00
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No matter how good the Actor boat is, it's not a suitable for navigating longer distances on large open waters. It's too small and would struggle with any small waves.
strawberryblond
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Post #11 29 Oct 2021 00:19
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X boat with autopilot can do that. U have lights, but u can switch them off.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #12 29 Oct 2021 00:40
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do you own or have used one ? as thats not what I have been hearing

YES its not a huge boat but its very capable for UK waters SIZE is not the important thing design is !!!!!!!!

out of interest my pal lost TWO !!!!!!! Angling Tech Microcats 1st on a large French lake waves swamped and it sunk !!

insurance paid out next year took the new boat and it happened again SUNK !!!

this time the insurance company REFUSED to pay out
(Ian if you read this please confirm mate )

so SIZE is not always the answer design is the answer

I have owned and used 6 different bait boats from the smallest to the biggest so can speak with a little experience
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #13 29 Oct 2021 08:04
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Is there a product that will allow me to send my bait out in the dark, without lights (cough)

Is this a case of being discreet or not found out? there is a way, turn off the baitboat lights or tape up if function is not available, then marking your lines up for distance and using any baitboat without all the bells and whistles just reflective tape triangle on the front circle on the back quick flick of the head torch every now and then so you know if its facing or going away from you it will get you in the ball park if you can see a far margin marker silhouette, knew two lads that used to fish in the nature reserve at La Horre like this they used to absolutely take it apart.
lets be honest baitboat GPS technology isn't going to drop it on a sixpence every time in the general ballpark yes granted but a lot of money for general ballpark, military grade GPS different gravy but a Naval ship or sub for inland waters is a touch OTT.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #14 29 Oct 2021 10:18
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Marking spots and clipping up = no GPS required, and arguably more accurate if there's limited satellites in the area . . .
JasonM JasonM
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Post #15 29 Oct 2021 11:06
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The problem is most consumer GPS uses the L1 band if you look at the deeper specs I think over 3metres it's 50% accurate.

Lots of dual band (L1 and L5) mobile phones are starting to be released now with accuracy down to a meter I'm sure within 2 years we'll see this in deeper type products. Accounting for the mobile market consuming all integrated circuits and the semiconductor shortages which continue and into next year.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #16 29 Oct 2021 12:50
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I use the actor baitboat on huge scottish lochs without a problem
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #17 29 Oct 2021 13:19
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rubbish
TimMarshall TimMarshall
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Post #18 29 Oct 2021 13:19
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Also using the Actor ((Mk1), on the US lakes. Just back from a week on the 26,000 acre Dale Hollow).
Slightly damp inside the battery area, but worked fine in the moderate waves that appeared.
A good, reliable cheap option for you to consider.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #19 29 Oct 2021 16:26
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The actor looks like it has a good hull design so looks pretty stable to me
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #20 29 Oct 2021 18:14
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after RandyMcH comments

I really hate giving advice Im not 100% sure of !

so I phoned a pal in France this morning who has been using one since they came out on a few large lakes with waves and he said its no problem at all !!
nor was his previous boat lake reaper but the reaper would not work with the Deeper so he upgraded to the Actor Bait Boat that he considers a better boat ?
and 2 of his friends now have Actor boats too he said he is going to upgrade again to their top model they do after Christmas
so that made me happy
Bigted50 Bigted50
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Post #21 29 Oct 2021 21:30
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Took 2 boats to france this August

UK bespoke big boy and the actor with sonar that I needed to give a run out for a local resi where you have to barrow miles

The main spot was 160yrds ish in a v shape of pads, both performed admirably and did its job.

The actor did get blown about and due to size was difficult to actually see at that range due to it being dinky u have to reverse out of this spot with the actor but can drive right through the pads with the bigger boat.

Horses for courses me thinks, big waters bigger boat smaller waters.

Difference in cost between the 2 is vast but the difference in performance in this situation was also noticeable.

I'm 100% happy with both but the big boy bespoke rules the waves.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #22 30 Oct 2021 08:38
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completely agree a bigger heavier boat the better the performance in big waters

BUT !! SO is the price tag !!! your big boy boat Im guessing is £2000 ish ?? yes you get what you pay for my mate in France had the big Anatec Catamaran one of the top big any weather boats but like me getting to old to lift and lug about a great big heavy boat now uses the amazing little Actor and loves it on big lakes out there

the point is here if you dont want to spend 4 figure sums on a boat that is mainly going to be used on our smaller UK waters and maybe annual French trip then these little Actor bait boats used sensibly are extremely capable boats

like you and posted below are actual owner user`s !!
that have used them on big water and resssys without any problems ! and work a LOT BETTER than some of the more expensive small /medium boats in todays market

BOTTOM LINE comes down to what you want a boat to do and where you intend using it ???
if its for typical UK waters range 100 to 200 yards and dont send it out in a storm then Actor has now been proven to be ideal and would get my money every day
JasonM JasonM
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Post #23 30 Oct 2021 10:29
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At the end of the day their is so much choice you pays the money you buy your boat.

But yes users reviews do help 🙂

I'm happy with my mk2 technicat had it for 7 years now (zero problems) toying with the idea of a few upgrades over the winter period.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #24 30 Oct 2021 10:33
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I liked my mk2 technicat nice little boat I had their sounder fitted and add on GPS think its the best boat that Angling Tech make !

but its well overpriced compared what you can get for that price from Actor though
JasonM JasonM
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Post #25 30 Oct 2021 10:41
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I bought mine 2nd hand for £330 (January 2014) with two sets of HD batteries and the deluxe bag as my mate said to me “‘bargain”
It had the receipt in the bag as well was just over a year old ! £699 back then.
TeeCee
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Post #26 30 Oct 2021 11:45
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I know you're a fan of a particular boat, and fair play. The big drawback on such a small boat as I see it is that if you are using them to bait up, these small payloads are nigh on useless, especially so if you're baiting say an arbitrary spot at say 200yds and you want to put in 20kg. With a boat that has a payload of 1.5kg, narf ganna take a while to pile in 20kg of bait, let alone the batteries you'd end up using going out to a spot at 200yds. Now take a boat like an RT4 with a payload of 5kg at 200yds, that's 4 trips and 1600 yds in total.

Of course, not everyone is going to put in 20kg of bait regularly baiting up and highlighting such things is just a mental exercise, all the same, what I mention underscores the drawbacks of small boats irrespective of how stable they may or may not be given X weather conditions.

What I can really conclude with these small boats is they're good in some respects for small waters and a handful of baits which can be used at extended ranges and not much else because of their limiting factors.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #27 30 Oct 2021 13:22
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I had a Euro Viper for a couple of years took easily a 5kg bag of boilies + no bother cant remember if it was 6kg or 8kg capacity ? it was handy on some lakes not very fast though
but the lakes I fished in France that were heavily fished I found the bigger fish kept away from large beds of bait the old saying see what everyone else is doing and do something different applied
but really budget you get what you pay for and what you need a boat to do I loved the Anatec boats the Anatec cat is one of the best rough water boats ever made !! a mate sent one out about 250 yards and a storm appeared out of nowhere we could not see the boat for the giant waves that this squall suddenly produced on this giant lake luckily it had GPS and we could see it was still moving only by that and hadnt sunk ! it came back no bother could not believe it when she came ploughing thru but they do test them at sea 5kg payload very fast and now even faster with the new lithium batteries and brushless motors
the choice for 2 grand plus boats is vast now
but if you only want to spend a few hundred you just need to spend it on the best bang for the buck
Mr-Bean-Laden Mr-Bean-Laden
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Post #28 16 Dec 2021 09:38
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UK Bespoke bait boats are bringing out in January 22 a smaller boat, PD33. On the photo it looks to be about 3/4 of the size of the current PD34 model. Have a look on their facebook site.

They say it can be supplied with all the usual bells and whistles you get on the larger PD34 model.

No costs yet but they say it will be competitive - but don't they all

Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #29 16 Dec 2021 11:14
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Carptechnics SB3 fully pimped . . .on my new years pressie list . . .
CarperRob717
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Post #30 24 Feb 2022 15:49
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Hi Guys,

Sorry to Hijack the post. Has anyone had any experience with the new Gowi Osprey. Looking at getting one of these, been having a scan around and havnt found a bad comment about them. Any help would be appreciated.
christian
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Post #31 24 Feb 2022 15:58
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I've had one for nearly a year now. I think it's great and gives me all I need at a reasonable price. Only thing I would say is that it big and heavy. Now this is a plus point for me as I fish largish windswept waters which the osprey copes with very well. If you are only fishing a small pond it might be overkill.
CarperRob717
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Post #32 25 Feb 2022 09:42
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In reply to Post #31
Perfect - Thanks Christian. I will too be using it on big waters. So will be ideal. Thanks for the reply!
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