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Well well well new fox reels (72 posts / 9,440 views)
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #1 27 Aug 2021 10:21
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Won't lie probably buy some
12000XC

What we think?
Spod Spod
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Post #2 27 Aug 2021 14:21
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I won't lie either,,,,,I definitely won't buy some.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #3 27 Aug 2021 14:24
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Well its got a CNS system. so get 4
ip100 ip100
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Post #4 27 Aug 2021 14:58
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I won't lie either. I'm definitely not buying them
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #5 27 Aug 2021 15:04
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wetnet wetnet
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Post #6 27 Aug 2021 16:40
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They look awful so I won't be buying any.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #7 27 Aug 2021 16:42
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just see shimano moving over to 45mm spools and something called 'rigid cast'...
does that mean the current models will be replaced
Goose Goose
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Post #8 27 Aug 2021 17:13
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Well. Well. Well immmm, fox have made some atrocious reels but then some on par with the much hyped here penn affinity ie fx9 and 11, will these be up to the fx only time will tell.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #9 27 Aug 2021 18:29
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You mean they are changing to spools that Daiwa have used on their reels for years.I thought Shimano always said line lay makes the biggest difference to distance not the longer spools
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #10 27 Aug 2021 20:07
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Biggest load of ******** going shimanos super slow oscillation improves distance.
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #11 27 Aug 2021 22:58
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I was told by (I don't own a tackle shop) take the piss all you want, that shimarno replace their models every year and the best time to buy them is around March as they move on old stock. As for fox well they always trying to move on old stock
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #12 27 Aug 2021 23:25
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In reply to Post #10
Clearly Shimano have realised it too
Alby
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Post #13 28 Aug 2021 09:51
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Whenever a company uses the words high quality in the first line of their sales pitch you and they both know it really isn't.
Goose Goose
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Post #14 28 Aug 2021 10:30
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Same shop that told you not to buy basia's and buy tournies but in another shop?
Busted
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Post #15 28 Aug 2021 10:54
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Fox have always churned out pretty bad reels, these wont be any different, even though they do look like carbon copies of many other identical but equally mediocre line gathering devices
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #16 28 Aug 2021 10:55
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In reply to Post #11
It's not quite every year and they do start trying to shift them around March as the newer models used to come out around September time.They used to use the Tackle and Guns show as a release date to show them off
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #17 28 Aug 2021 10:56
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The fx range of reels are very good reels
TeeCee
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Post #18 28 Aug 2021 11:46
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Looks exact like a Diawa reel. Well done fox with your CopyPasta, how pathetic, not surprising though given everything they churn out these days is just a poor imitation of some other companies hard work.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #19 28 Aug 2021 12:15
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Looks nothing like a Daiwa reel,it's got the same back end as their 12000 mags.Daiwa changed the arse end on the basia,so did they copy Fox more than Fox copied them.
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #20 28 Aug 2021 12:16
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*******s have definitely copied them. I mean, it has a spool, a handle, a bail arm, and a reel body.

I actually think they look quite smart. Was hoping they might be light weight, but they are a similar weight to emblems etc
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #21 28 Aug 2021 12:17
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In reply to Post #19
You was typing at the same time. Stop copying me
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #22 28 Aug 2021 12:25
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TeeCee
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Post #23 28 Aug 2021 14:38
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Meh. It's difficult to tell Fox and Diawa apart these days. I see Fox has snidded Shimano's X Ship logo right where Shimano put there's and Fox have mangled it up to look similar to Diawa's graphics.

A witches brew of poo...
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #24 28 Aug 2021 14:59
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Have you used any of the fx range,the fx9 and fx11 are very good reels.The price they sit at they are better than other brands in that price bracket
bmthman bmthman
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Post #25 28 Aug 2021 15:09
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Fox were well known for using anglers as field testers. So these will soon be replaced by a Mk2 that may not fall apart after a few months .
TeeCee
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Post #26 28 Aug 2021 15:10
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Yeah, used a mates one, can't remember the model.

I've learnt my lesson the hard way buying Fox. They only make one thing very well and that's their buzzers and the only kit I'll ever buy with their brand on. I'm sure you and others will disagree with factoids and what have you, don't care, not my problem.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #27 28 Aug 2021 15:34
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In reply to Post #26
Your money,your choice
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #28 28 Aug 2021 19:38
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In reply to Post #25
The old mk 2 trick, some things never change.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #29 28 Aug 2021 20:08
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Just seen the video on these,they look quite smart imo
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #30 28 Aug 2021 20:22
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They did, but they need right handers doing the promos. Look so cack handed with tom makers left hand set up
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #31 28 Aug 2021 20:29
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I always find it off aswell seeing a lefty
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #32 28 Aug 2021 21:22
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🤪 No, I've spoken and used well over 10 Tackle shops in my time.

Simpson's
Specialist
Tackle box
Leslies
Fosters
Yately
Premier
South Woodford
Loughton
Keswells
Bristol
Hull
Angling direct
Eric's
Stafford
Glasgow
Rod and Gun
Kent
Canterbury
Johnson Ross

And quite a few more I like chatting with people and appreciate their views and when certain trends appear with several people telling you the same thing it's usually note worthy in my opinion, I appreciate my experiences are still biased and so I can only offer my opinion and thoughts on any matter.

Now I may have found during my time that a particular rig method kit works well and others don't it doesn't mean everyone else is wrong I'm just sharing my observations and what I know about such stuff, it doesn't make me wrong if others have had different experiences it only makes these things questionable.


sundance sundance
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Post #33 29 Aug 2021 16:49
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Same.
I remember some **** at a local shop trying to sell.me the early fox reels instead of the Shimanos I had ordered. Telling me I was getting much more for the same money. Yeh right.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #34 29 Aug 2021 17:51
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Tom's latest vlog on his syndicate earlier this year and he was not using these new reels.I guess these have not been fieldtested for the last 2 years
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #35 29 Aug 2021 18:15
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#supportyourlocaltackleshop
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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Post #36 29 Aug 2021 18:43
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610 grams. Too heavy for me.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #37 29 Aug 2021 19:04
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Lighter than shimano xtd and the daiwa emblems they are both around 645
Goose Goose
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Post #38 29 Aug 2021 19:38
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And both those have less bearings.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #39 29 Aug 2021 20:00
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Excellent point,well made there Sir
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #40 30 Aug 2021 08:46
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In reply to Post #34
I was thinking this aswell. Literally no videos of any guys using them
bmthman bmthman
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Post #41 30 Aug 2021 10:45
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Only just arrived from China I guess. Then straight on sale.
AideyKaye
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Post #42 30 Aug 2021 11:23
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The bail arms will be made of spaghetti like the rest of them.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #43 30 Aug 2021 17:30
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Can't say I have heard of any bent ones on the fx9 or fx11
Snapper1725
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Post #44 30 Aug 2021 18:05
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Am sure I've seen Mark Barlett using them a while back on one of his videos and sure Tom Marker was using the at the start of his latest video ( but may need to recheck) but switch to the older ones
mark1009
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Post #45 30 Aug 2021 18:30
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With the current supply problems everyone is having, there would be no point promoting a product you couldn't supply with certainty. If they haven't tested samples then they may get a lot of returns. I wish companies felt they could take the time to release a proven product to the market, rather than having to bring out new items every year. There are very few innovators but many copyists out there. Maybe it just takes too long to patent and copyright. Innovation to make it worthwhile.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #46 30 Aug 2021 21:35
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New shimano reels going to be interesting. Introducing folding handles now, something called cross carbon drag. Which j guess will make them more user friendly in a fight. 45mm spool also.. Expect alot of shimano reels to be on ebay come Wednesday eve. No idea if it's a range or just another new mag coming out , anyone know?
mark1009
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Post #47 30 Aug 2021 21:43
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Aarrgghh .The only thing I dislike about my shimano reels is the lack of a folding handle. I like the daiwa handles. However I'm not going to buy a new set of reels just for the handles. Unless!
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #48 30 Aug 2021 22:22
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Is it a folding handle as in press a button and fold them
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #49 30 Aug 2021 22:23
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Looks like it. Go on shimano tribal page on fb and scroll through their posts. Shows all the new features to some extent. 7pm Wednesday for full announcement.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #50 30 Aug 2021 22:25
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I dont need any new reels and don't want be tempted just looked and its not as it mentions turning the handle a few turns to fold.I think it's because on some reels you can't fold the handle in as it just flops about
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #51 30 Aug 2021 23:11
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Yes I see what you mean. Be interesting to see the new reels..
DirkDiggler DirkDiggler
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Post #52 31 Aug 2021 08:16
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I haven't seen any new Fox tackle in any of the tackle shops I visit in months,

The last set of new gear included a new design water carrier for the explorer barrow....never even seen one of those.

Be lucky to see these reels this side of Xmas I reckon
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #53 1 Sep 2021 12:41
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In reply to Post #50
not long till you see your new reels Tony
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #54 1 Sep 2021 12:51
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In reply to Post #53
Do you want any basia 20's
Snapper1725
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Post #55 1 Sep 2021 14:42
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Up to the other week I've never really looked at diawa reels
So what's the crack with the numbers ? As some shops don't even mention it on their websites
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #56 1 Sep 2021 18:22
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In reply to Post #54
Seen them? Look like the old mags. Corrr
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #57 1 Sep 2021 18:32
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You get them and let us know if all these improvements have actually made a difference and how long til your spool clicker went silent
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #58 1 Sep 2021 18:32
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If they are less than 250 each I will
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #59 1 Sep 2021 19:35
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In reply to Post #58
Good luck with that
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #60 28 Feb 2022 18:41
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Anyone had a chance to use these yet? And best price on these for 3
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #61 28 Feb 2022 21:54
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In reply to Post #14
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Glenn_B Glenn_B
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Post #62 1 Mar 2022 12:19
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In reply to Post #36
I don't get this weight thing? A reel either balances or it doesn't. People saying that they cast further due to lighter weight doesn't cut it for me. Isn't a certain well known distance casters favourite reel a Tournament 6000 which weighs 670g?
bluebeat13
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Post #63 1 Mar 2022 12:33
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Glenn_B Glenn_B
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Post #64 1 Mar 2022 12:38
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Exactly why I posted it. Lots of personal opinions and that is all they are. It has almost turned into another manufacturer v manufacturer load of *****
mark1009
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Post #65 1 Mar 2022 13:44
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In reply to Post #62
I've always thought the same. If the reel seat is the point of the fulcrum, then it's surely best to have the rod balanced at that point or slightly butt heavy. Especially considering there will be a lead weight hanging from the top. It must be better for the speed of the cast.
nickfisherman
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Post #66 1 Mar 2022 15:47
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In reply to Post #62
If you like to be mobile and don't use a barrow, then saving 100-200g per reel ads up to quite a difference - particularly if you buy all your gear with weight saving in mind. Easily adds up to trimming several kilos off what you're lugging.
darkoL darkoL
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Post #67 1 Mar 2022 16:08
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why they just cant come up with a aprox copy of techniums?? who wants this basia looking reels??
g4fne g4fne
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Post #68 1 Mar 2022 16:32
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I have to say i have both FX9's (Mk2) and FX11 reels from Fox .... I bought these out of desperation as Shimano's XTB's and XTC's were shockingly bad reels at the time (imo) and so over rated by the fan boys. I have not regretted it since. What is a tad ironic is the Okuma Inc 6000 at half the price of all of them is probably the best of the lot
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #69 1 Mar 2022 17:09
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In reply to Post #68
Problem is with those reels if you get a fault your ****ed basically . At least shimano and daiwa have readily available parts. Now I like to change my reels everynow and then so doesn't bother me if a set only lasts a few seasons. Just get another cheap set. Depends what your after really.
nickfisherman
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Post #70 1 Mar 2022 17:21
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In reply to Post #49
Had a look on the Shimano tribal page on fb, saw a post talking about the spools of the Shimano AeroTechnium MGS, launched last year, but can't see anything about a new launch that's coming tomorrow?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #71 1 Mar 2022 18:03
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It's an old post,it does not mean tomorrow
nickfisherman
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Post #72 1 Mar 2022 19:46
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D'oh! Right you are.
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