....you get a real screamer, then, you hit it, and, nothing, 3 times today, I've adjusted the length of the hair, put the bait on the shank, I'm buggered if I know what to do next, I used to think it was small fish just grabbing the bait on its own and not the hook, please just sensible replies. 
In reply to Post #1
Probably a fish trailing a lead or rig catching on your line.
Probably a fish trailing a lead or rig catching on your line.
In reply to Post #2
yeah, could be
yeah, could be
In reply to Post #1
Blunt hook?
Blunt hook?
In reply to Post #4
nope
nope
In reply to Post #5
Tried a really short hooklink? Or a running lead?
Tried a really short hooklink? Or a running lead?
In reply to Post #2
Agreed. Whenever that happens to me that is my general thoughts. Are you fishing a heavily stocked lake?
Agreed. Whenever that happens to me that is my general thoughts. Are you fishing a heavily stocked lake?
Are there any eels or small catfish present ?
Grebes? Pain in the backside at times for swimming through your lines.
In reply to Post #1
Fish trailing line, carp spawning in the margins or pike swimming in the margins (spawning) would be the first things to discount. Then, if it's definitely pick ups, could be eels or small fish that aren't getting hooked. Try some of the alterations to your rig that have already been mentioned.
Fish trailing line, carp spawning in the margins or pike swimming in the margins (spawning) would be the first things to discount. Then, if it's definitely pick ups, could be eels or small fish that aren't getting hooked. Try some of the alterations to your rig that have already been mentioned.
Thanks for all your replies, any or all of the
answers could be the reason, its not heavenly
stocked but it is a known very hard water, pike
maybe the culprit as I played a fish then lost
it, the line had been cut, I know the knot was
strong I am very fussy about them, I will try
some of your suggestions and take notes.
answers could be the reason, its not heavenly
stocked but it is a known very hard water, pike
maybe the culprit as I played a fish then lost
it, the line had been cut, I know the knot was
strong I am very fussy about them, I will try
some of your suggestions and take notes.
In reply to Post #11
Trailer or pike smashing fry close in. Ive had both at different times.
Trailer or pike smashing fry close in. Ive had both at different times.
In reply to Post #12
I think your 2nd one is more like it, many times
I saw the fry hit the surface and is more likely the
reason for the cut line, I forgot to say that I put
back leads on and was still getting single or double
bleeps on the Delks (set at maximum sensitivity)
but no movement on the bobbins.
I think your 2nd one is more like it, many times
I saw the fry hit the surface and is more likely the
reason for the cut line, I forgot to say that I put
back leads on and was still getting single or double
bleeps on the Delks (set at maximum sensitivity)
but no movement on the bobbins.
In reply to Post #1
If not a trailer, have you tried heavy leads, 4oz plus.. And bigger hooks maybe...
If not a trailer, have you tried heavy leads, 4oz plus.. And bigger hooks maybe...
In reply to Post #1
As you said screamers, agree with Phil, Pike, happened to me many times
As you said screamers, agree with Phil, Pike, happened to me many times
In reply to Post #15
Like said a carp trailing line , but they always seem to be a slow and steady run unless they are spooked . Or eels .
Like said a carp trailing line , but they always seem to be a slow and steady run unless they are spooked . Or eels .
In reply to Post #5
Sorry
Sorry
In reply to Post #1
Put some tubing on the hook to fixate the hair. You will know if you're done when the tubing moved up the shank of the hook.
It will help solving your riddle
Put some tubing on the hook to fixate the hair. You will know if you're done when the tubing moved up the shank of the hook.
It will help solving your riddle
Reply to #14
#15
#16
Thanks again for your thoughts, I've not
tried 4oz leads and bigger hooks, I'm on
size 6 at the moment and 2.5 oz leads, that
may work,
eels, Mmmm, I will have to find out if there
are any in there, screamers, yes they
were all that, without seeing what goes on
ar the rig end it's mainly a guessing game,
but, I'm not going to give up (YET).
#15
#16
Thanks again for your thoughts, I've not
tried 4oz leads and bigger hooks, I'm on
size 6 at the moment and 2.5 oz leads, that
may work,
eels, Mmmm, I will have to find out if there
are any in there, screamers, yes they
were all that, without seeing what goes on
ar the rig end it's mainly a guessing game,
but, I'm not going to give up (YET).
In reply to Post #17
apology not needed, we all slip up now and again
apology not needed, we all slip up now and again
Did they take line? Delkims do make absolutely anything sound like a screamer.
Heard my mate have an absolute screamer the other day, only to look round and he had hooked a roach that was making the bobbin shake up and down half an inch.
Heard my mate have an absolute screamer the other day, only to look round and he had hooked a roach that was making the bobbin shake up and down half an inch.
In reply to Post #18
In reply to Post #21
Did they take line? Delkims do make absolutely anything sound like a screamer.
Oh yes, the bobbin went right up to the top when I hit it.
Did they take line? Delkims do make absolutely anything sound like a screamer.
Oh yes, the bobbin went right up to the top when I hit it.
without seeing what goes on
ar the rig end it's mainly a guessing game
Stick a high viz pop up on and retrieve slowly, if its a Pike you won't be guessing for long
ar the rig end it's mainly a guessing game
Stick a high viz pop up on and retrieve slowly, if its a Pike you won't be guessing for long
In reply to Post #24
Last time i had anything like this there were a fair few tench around. I pit it down to them picking the hookbait up but not being able take it down far enough for the hook to take hold. Had a few bigger tench that were nailed in between so assumed it was smaller fish
Last time i had anything like this there were a fair few tench around. I pit it down to them picking the hookbait up but not being able take it down far enough for the hook to take hold. Had a few bigger tench that were nailed in between so assumed it was smaller fish
In reply to Post #20
In reply to Post #24
Stick a high viz pop up on and retrieve slowly, if its a Pike you won't be guessing for long
Yeah I know
I know exactly what I'm going to do now, I'll be able to tell if its a liner or not, should have thought of it before, thats it guys I'm out of this one
Stick a high viz pop up on and retrieve slowly, if its a Pike you won't be guessing for long
Yeah I know
I know exactly what I'm going to do now, I'll be able to tell if its a liner or not, should have thought of it before, thats it guys I'm out of this one
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