Not sure if it's already been mentioned but I went into the TackleBox the other day and noticed Korda have started using cardboard packaging for some of their ready tied rigs 😃
Not that I use ready tied rigs so may of missed this before in other tackle shops I've been in recently? But this seems like a step in the right direction to try and cut down on plastic waste.
I'd imagine the TackleBox have a high turnover of Korda stock and some of the ready tied's were in the plastic packaging so just wondered if this was a new thing from Korda and if so hopefully other tackle firms will start to follow suit
Not that I use ready tied rigs so may of missed this before in other tackle shops I've been in recently? But this seems like a step in the right direction to try and cut down on plastic waste.
I'd imagine the TackleBox have a high turnover of Korda stock and some of the ready tied's were in the plastic packaging so just wondered if this was a new thing from Korda and if so hopefully other tackle firms will start to follow suit
In reply to Post #1
Good news
Said it for a while, I wish all companies would ditch the plastic
Years ago hooks could be bought in waxed paper with a tracing paper type window, can't see the problem doing it nowadays myself especially with the environmental impact. As technology moves on there has to be suitable replacements
Environment, number 1. Hope everybody else's follows suit, makes total sense to me
Good news
Said it for a while, I wish all companies would ditch the plastic
Years ago hooks could be bought in waxed paper with a tracing paper type window, can't see the problem doing it nowadays myself especially with the environmental impact. As technology moves on there has to be suitable replacements
Environment, number 1. Hope everybody else's follows suit, makes total sense to me
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It's about tackle companies started this 👍
I said a long time ago the amount of plastic waste we have from our hobby is ridiculous, hopefully more companies follow
It's about tackle companies started this 👍
I said a long time ago the amount of plastic waste we have from our hobby is ridiculous, hopefully more companies follow
Fox did it with the blacklabel bank ware unfortunately the gear inside wasn't much stronger than the cardboard 
.I saw someone in a shop the other day buy a new Jag set up and the amount of packaging was ridiculous,it looks nice but surely there has got to be a better option
.I saw someone in a shop the other day buy a new Jag set up and the amount of packaging was ridiculous,it looks nice but surely there has got to be a better option
In reply to Post #4
Yes there is. Buy more jag stuff to put in your spare empty packaging. Simples.
Yes there is. Buy more jag stuff to put in your spare empty packaging. Simples.
In reply to Post #1
Fair play to them. It far more likely to attract my quids than any of the aggressive promotion in the shows I watch.
I've always been of the belief that anglers should be more environmentally aware and considerate given the time we spend in the open spaces
Fair play to them. It far more likely to attract my quids than any of the aggressive promotion in the shows I watch.
I've always been of the belief that anglers should be more environmentally aware and considerate given the time we spend in the open spaces
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Try telling this to the Ladies fashion industry.
I have a van filled to the top 6 days a week with absolute cheap tat...all in a plastic bag with another plastic bag inside it.
With a cheap dress in it which will be in landfill within weeks if not days.
A collective effort required I feel
Try telling this to the Ladies fashion industry.
I have a van filled to the top 6 days a week with absolute cheap tat...all in a plastic bag with another plastic bag inside it.
With a cheap dress in it which will be in landfill within weeks if not days.
A collective effort required I feel
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I believe they call that ‘fast fashion'
I saw a group of university student girls interviewed a few months ago. I think it was when that Greta Iceberg was banging on about saving the planet. Anyway these girls all said they wouldn't risk the shame of being seen out in the same outfit twice. They openly admitted they went out three nights a week and just wore something once. The mind boggles.
I believe they call that ‘fast fashion'
I saw a group of university student girls interviewed a few months ago. I think it was when that Greta Iceberg was banging on about saving the planet. Anyway these girls all said they wouldn't risk the shame of being seen out in the same outfit twice. They openly admitted they went out three nights a week and just wore something once. The mind boggles.
Didn't thinking anglers start switching to cardboard a while back?
As someone who buys end tackle in bulk lots, it's pretty disgusting the amount of packaging. I buy a lot more from the likes of bank tackle for this reason.
50 hooks from bank tackle= one small plastic bag
50 gardner crv= 5 clear plastic wrappers, 5 rigid plastic boxes, 5 rigid plastic hook retainers
Im still using gardner and atomic hooks over bank tackle ones, but you really see the difference when you buy 50 of two types of swivels, 50 rig rings, 20 bore rings, beads, tail rubbers.....
Oh, and not paying for that packaging saves a fortune too
As someone who buys end tackle in bulk lots, it's pretty disgusting the amount of packaging. I buy a lot more from the likes of bank tackle for this reason.
50 hooks from bank tackle= one small plastic bag
50 gardner crv= 5 clear plastic wrappers, 5 rigid plastic boxes, 5 rigid plastic hook retainers
Im still using gardner and atomic hooks over bank tackle ones, but you really see the difference when you buy 50 of two types of swivels, 50 rig rings, 20 bore rings, beads, tail rubbers.....
Oh, and not paying for that packaging saves a fortune too
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Got to agree when I bought my jag pod every single bit was inside its own plastic box, then all the plastic boxes where kept inside one big plastic box the amount of waste you have after opening it was crazy
Got to agree when I bought my jag pod every single bit was inside its own plastic box, then all the plastic boxes where kept inside one big plastic box the amount of waste you have after opening it was crazy
In reply to Post #9
They have most of it
But inside the box is usually a plastic bag over the item
They have most of it
But inside the box is usually a plastic bag over the item
In reply to Post #11
Something I have been saying for years, unbelievable amount of plastic is being used in angling "green" industry... I have seen Forge is doing proper paper packaging on their end tackle now...
Something I have been saying for years, unbelievable amount of plastic is being used in angling "green" industry... I have seen Forge is doing proper paper packaging on their end tackle now...
I think the flashy plastic packaging is mostly there to catch the angler but I'm sure it's not to difficult to make a decent looking packaging out of more friendly materials. Not that the packaging should make any difference as it's the product you are buying
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Much of the hard to open plastic packaging was to prevent shoplifting, then many tackle shops would add their strip tags to stop the whole pack walking out the door.
Packaging for years has been a problem, at least hard plastic is recyclable, whereas soft crumple plastic isn't.
Cardboard is recyclable.
Something I found a few weeks ago, not related to fishing tackle, but Percol sell coffee in plastic free, compostable bags. I wonder if carrier bags, even tackle brands could start doing the same.
Much of the hard to open plastic packaging was to prevent shoplifting, then many tackle shops would add their strip tags to stop the whole pack walking out the door.
Packaging for years has been a problem, at least hard plastic is recyclable, whereas soft crumple plastic isn't.
Cardboard is recyclable.
Something I found a few weeks ago, not related to fishing tackle, but Percol sell coffee in plastic free, compostable bags. I wonder if carrier bags, even tackle brands could start doing the same.
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Kevin Nash made a comment on a podcast recently about plastic being better for the earth than cardboard, due to trees being cut down for modern packaging. His argument revolved around plastic not being at fault, but our management of it being the problem.
Well Kev, we can't mange plastic waste, so now what's the best way of packing terminal tackle?
Kevin Nash made a comment on a podcast recently about plastic being better for the earth than cardboard, due to trees being cut down for modern packaging. His argument revolved around plastic not being at fault, but our management of it being the problem.
Well Kev, we can't mange plastic waste, so now what's the best way of packing terminal tackle?
In reply to Post #16
Great idea think alor more should follow, but how would you get around boilie bags?
Great idea think alor more should follow, but how would you get around boilie bags?
In reply to Post #17
Gemini carp tackle they do kits that have cardboard in it but it's still in an actual plastic bag
Gemini carp tackle they do kits that have cardboard in it but it's still in an actual plastic bag
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I can see his point to a certain degree with the management of the plastic. I mean the plastic doesnt grow legs, its humans that dump it into the seas and rivers. Unfortunately alot of the plastic used in the fishing trade is the sort which isnt recyclable, which is a problem, I'm not too sure if it was, that people would end up recycling it anyway. Obviously the best packaging would be recycled cardboard, but you cant make it stand out in a shop if that's something as a business you rely on.
I can see his point to a certain degree with the management of the plastic. I mean the plastic doesnt grow legs, its humans that dump it into the seas and rivers. Unfortunately alot of the plastic used in the fishing trade is the sort which isnt recyclable, which is a problem, I'm not too sure if it was, that people would end up recycling it anyway. Obviously the best packaging would be recycled cardboard, but you cant make it stand out in a shop if that's something as a business you rely on.
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We live in the age of consumerism. And this is obvious by how much food waste we make. And the food and any other product are packaged in plastic.
We live in the age of consumerism. And this is obvious by how much food waste we make. And the food and any other product are packaged in plastic.
In reply to Post #20
The food companies argue that the carbon footprint is less as food has a longer life in the plastic packaging than it otherwise would and as a derivative, there is less waste. They additionally give recycling instructions on the back of packaging. Its all there for us really.
I dont see the neccessity for non perishables in plastic packaging though.
The food companies argue that the carbon footprint is less as food has a longer life in the plastic packaging than it otherwise would and as a derivative, there is less waste. They additionally give recycling instructions on the back of packaging. Its all there for us really.
I dont see the neccessity for non perishables in plastic packaging though.
In reply to Post #21
Very true, thay put gas in the bag to give long shelf life, oh stop dumping leads
Very true, thay put gas in the bag to give long shelf life, oh stop dumping leads
In reply to Post #19
If the turning plastic into hydrogen really kicks off then that could be an answer long term and I think that can be done for most plastic types. Whether that means we continue to produce plastic or go down cardboard etc is another argument.
I also see someone that was converting plastic into household bricks for developing countries which I think is commendable.
If the turning plastic into hydrogen really kicks off then that could be an answer long term and I think that can be done for most plastic types. Whether that means we continue to produce plastic or go down cardboard etc is another argument.
I also see someone that was converting plastic into household bricks for developing countries which I think is commendable.
In reply to Post #16
Trying to deflect?
A lot of trees are continually planted and harvested to provide paper.
Plastic production uses more energy in its production, as well as the waste.
Management is simple, reduce our reliance on plastic😉
Trying to deflect?
A lot of trees are continually planted and harvested to provide paper.
Plastic production uses more energy in its production, as well as the waste.
Management is simple, reduce our reliance on plastic😉
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The only solution is ban on exporting of waste... Majority of plastic is not recycled anymore because it is cheaper to "sell" it to Asia where huge % is just dumped in the sea... % of european waste in seas in enormous because of that.
The only solution is ban on exporting of waste... Majority of plastic is not recycled anymore because it is cheaper to "sell" it to Asia where huge % is just dumped in the sea... % of european waste in seas in enormous because of that.
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All plastic can be recycled. It just isn't commercially viable to do so. Anyone tells you that a plastic cannot be recycled just means that it 'isn't recycled', not that it can't be recycled.
All plastic can be recycled. It just isn't commercially viable to do so. Anyone tells you that a plastic cannot be recycled just means that it 'isn't recycled', not that it can't be recycled.
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Sure it can be it is just cheaper to dump it in sea.
Sure it can be it is just cheaper to dump it in sea.
It'll be interesting to see what the tackle companies do next year when the new plastic packaging tax is introduced, due in April I believe. They can either ensure that at least 30% of the packaging used in each product is made from re-cycled plastic, if no then they will be taxed for it, so do they pass this on to the consumer?
How do we all feel about paying higher prices for terminal tackle for instance (where plastic packaging easily outnumbers the contents by mass/volume) if the brands do little or nothing to change their ways? We all realise that 'they' are all in a battle against each other to attract the consumer to their product wall displays with everything laid out nicely in clear plastic hard / soft packs that hang off pegs etc, but none of us actually want all this waste that we ultimately have to bin = landfill soon as we get our bit's home. It certainly does my head in, and I remember once at a carp show being ridiculed by a 'vendor' with unnecessary packaging when I took the products out of it and gave it all back to him to re use. Apparently I am an eco warrior..
How do we all feel about paying higher prices for terminal tackle for instance (where plastic packaging easily outnumbers the contents by mass/volume) if the brands do little or nothing to change their ways? We all realise that 'they' are all in a battle against each other to attract the consumer to their product wall displays with everything laid out nicely in clear plastic hard / soft packs that hang off pegs etc, but none of us actually want all this waste that we ultimately have to bin = landfill soon as we get our bit's home. It certainly does my head in, and I remember once at a carp show being ridiculed by a 'vendor' with unnecessary packaging when I took the products out of it and gave it all back to him to re use. Apparently I am an eco warrior..
In reply to Post #28
Higher price will just make products more carpy
Higher price will just make products more carpy
In reply to Post #26
It can re recycled to a point, but, at some point itll end up in landfill, not because of people throwing it there, but because itll be end of life for the plastic
It can re recycled to a point, but, at some point itll end up in landfill, not because of people throwing it there, but because itll be end of life for the plastic
In reply to Post #30
We live in the age of consumerism. Hence why everything is packaged in plastic. Why?
We live in the age of consumerism. Hence why everything is packaged in plastic. Why?
In reply to Post #31
Tbh, it's about time that the plastic waste was addressed by angling firms, but think about the amount of plastic thrown away with the coronavirus testing kits, and how many of those are used globally daily
Tbh, it's about time that the plastic waste was addressed by angling firms, but think about the amount of plastic thrown away with the coronavirus testing kits, and how many of those are used globally daily
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