I've been offered a water of 3 acres, mostly very shallow with a 6ft deep central area; public access aroumd it and no fish.
Whats a sensible rent?
Whats a sensible rent?
In reply to Post #1
why is there no fish in it?
why is there no fish in it?
In reply to Post #1
No fish and unfenced. No more than £300.
No fish and unfenced. No more than £300.
In reply to Post #1
Depends where is is,
my small syndicate rent a lake, 1.5 acres good stock of carp, toilet and shower facilities for 2500 per year.... private land and fully otter fenced.......
Depends where is is,
my small syndicate rent a lake, 1.5 acres good stock of carp, toilet and shower facilities for 2500 per year.... private land and fully otter fenced.......
In reply to Post #1
What do you mean by "very shallow"? Are you familiar with the water through a full yearly cycle? Remember some waters fluctuate by as much as three feet.
What do you mean by "very shallow"? Are you familiar with the water through a full yearly cycle? Remember some waters fluctuate by as much as three feet.
In reply to Post #5
Yes I am familiar with it,as explained ,shallow either end,2 ft deeper I the middle 6ft
Yes I am familiar with it,as explained ,shallow either end,2 ft deeper I the middle 6ft
In reply to Post #6
Public access? That's a major issue
It will need to be otter fenced, so public won't be able to go in and out. If that's not possible I wouldn't touch it. I was offered one a few years ago but there was no way it could be otter fenced so I saved the money and heartache
If it's an empty body of water with no fish but the chance to protect it, start at 1000 per annum
Public access? That's a major issue
It will need to be otter fenced, so public won't be able to go in and out. If that's not possible I wouldn't touch it. I was offered one a few years ago but there was no way it could be otter fenced so I saved the money and heartache
If it's an empty body of water with no fish but the chance to protect it, start at 1000 per annum
In reply to Post #1
You may also have to pay an increase insurance premium if the public also have access....my club gave up a water due to the terms of the lease changed and the land owner (i think the local council) wanted the clubs insurance to include for the general public, which then made the water not economically viable to keep.
You may also have to pay an increase insurance premium if the public also have access....my club gave up a water due to the terms of the lease changed and the land owner (i think the local council) wanted the clubs insurance to include for the general public, which then made the water not economically viable to keep.
In reply to Post #2
Because it's not been stocked!
Because it's not been stocked!
In reply to Post #9
You'd want a guaranteed lease term, otherwise you could spend thousands stocking it, fencing it, etc then get turfed out!
You'd want a guaranteed lease term, otherwise you could spend thousands stocking it, fencing it, etc then get turfed out!
In reply to Post #10
Minimum of 10yrs and include a clause that it's protected even if the landowner sells the land.
Minimum of 10yrs and include a clause that it's protected even if the landowner sells the land.
In reply to Post #9
Why hasn't anyone taken it on till now would be my main question, how much work need doing to it aswell
Why hasn't anyone taken it on till now would be my main question, how much work need doing to it aswell
If you need to stock it then you need to otter fence it.
The issues with public leaving gates open or damaging fences will be too much stress to bear.
The issues with public leaving gates open or damaging fences will be too much stress to bear.
Don't bother, even if it was free of rent, youve got to stock it, which will be a huge outlay, then protect from two legged poachers, and then sooner or later otters turn up...and they will.
In reply to Post #14
I think having public access isn't the end of the world, but may have implications for public liability insurance premiums. Plenty of lakes have public access but as noted, it might make fish thefts more likely once the water is stocked with nieve pretty viv shears fish etc.
I think having public access isn't the end of the world, but may have implications for public liability insurance premiums. Plenty of lakes have public access but as noted, it might make fish thefts more likely once the water is stocked with nieve pretty viv shears fish etc.
In reply to Post #15
I'd stock 10 or a dozen fish and leave them for a year or so. Then see what they do. You might find the water doesn't suit them.
I've found lakes without fences can be fine with low stocks and no snags. In your lease you'll want to state that fish remain your property as well.
I'd stock 10 or a dozen fish and leave them for a year or so. Then see what they do. You might find the water doesn't suit them.
I've found lakes without fences can be fine with low stocks and no snags. In your lease you'll want to state that fish remain your property as well.
In reply to Post #9
You want the lease to cover your ownership of fish you stock as well, so you get your money back on the end of the lease if it ever happens.
You want the lease to cover your ownership of fish you stock as well, so you get your money back on the end of the lease if it ever happens.
In reply to Post #17
The lads who are sitting on successful, profitable fisheries didnt muck about asking questions on forums. Make it yours, then make it yours.
The lads who are sitting on successful, profitable fisheries didnt muck about asking questions on forums. Make it yours, then make it yours.
In reply to Post #1
no fence, no fish £1 a year until developed
FIRST question id ask before handing over my £1 is
Can i fence this before i add stock?
If no, walk away
no fence, no fish £1 a year until developed
FIRST question id ask before handing over my £1 is
Can i fence this before i add stock?
If no, walk away
In reply to Post #19
Agreed.
Agreed.
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