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Tips on scaling down... (26 posts / 3,971 views)
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #1 12 Sep 2020 10:38
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Hi Guys,

Any tips on scaling down and making setting up and packing down quicker for work overnighters?

Have you got any luggage or items which you think are a real benefit to help this?

I've got the korda tacklebox and I actually find this too big to take on short sessions and find I'm not using most of stuff in there as my rigs are normally pre tied.

Cheers
sundance sundance
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Post #2 12 Sep 2020 11:10
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In reply to Post #1
I have a Nash PVA pouch with a few bits for an overnight like leads, baiting needle. and some made-up rigs
I now use a tempest brolly. never used anything quicker.
have my pod semi-set up buzzers and hanger etc ready in the mat
rods are in a chub 5-rod pouch type thing. so easy to get in and out.
I use a running rig setup that you can pop the lead out when using running rigs
All pre-made rigs have a loop and I use Qwik change swivels.
A small bucket with a mix of boilies and pellets. currently using shelflife DNA. make a couple of
solid bags up the night before keeping in a bucket. with catapult.
not fishing at range so often take
a bait scoop and fling some out using the landing net handle when I first arrive.

one day i will get a bed and bag that folds. that will also save time.

Mistabite
Posts: 1,245
Post #3 12 Sep 2020 11:11
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In reply to Post #1
The korda rig safe and a small zip bag does me for an overnighter, the rig safe I have is the one with compartments one side and rigs the other. The small bag came with the aqua roving bag but sure you could find something similar.

Scissors, hook sharpening stuff, and everything that won't fit in the rig safe goes in there.

I also have a jetboil cooker, really recommend that if you want hot food and drinks or just take a flask.
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #4 12 Sep 2020 12:19
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Don't take so much 😉
zebedee zebedee
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Post #5 12 Sep 2020 12:57
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In reply to Post #1
It's not that difficult to do tbh. I don't have a trolley/barrow so find inventive ways to hold gear. Heaviest bit is bivvy and bed for me.

I make use of the bivvys big bag landing net/retainer etc goes in there

Big rucksack for bait and all sorts of stuff. Rod bag has got my pod dismantled in there.

Dinners are made the night before which don't need reheating tuna pasta bake with salad. Bottled water

My shooting jacket has deep pockets so rigs weights in there. Bumbag for loose feeed etc.. etc.

Keeps the weight off the gut and keeps me fit. Admittedly I look a k'in right Wally but let the fishing do the talking

TeeCee
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Post #6 12 Sep 2020 13:25
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This is tip is going to be about as much use as a chocolate tea pot, but here goes

If you can got hold of one of the old thinking anglers tackle wallet and rig board combo's as it looks like they don't make them anymore, they are brilliant. That's all I ever use just the one tackle box/rig wallet. I can get everything in one that I'll ever need. I did remove one of the plastic internal boxes so I can get my book length materials in it and dental floss etc.

Shame I can't upload pics so as to give you an idea.
lilharbs lilharbs
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Post #7 12 Sep 2020 17:08
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In reply to Post #2
Similar to this, I fish overnighters so scaled right down without being silly -

1 x carryall with micro stove, kettle, tea bags etc. Frying pan and a tin of beans and pack of burgers or sausages. 2 x tubs of pop ups/wafters, mini camera tripod, scales, rig box with ready tied rigs, rig wallet. 6 x leads and a head torch. Radio for the football 👍
Nash Groundhog brolly - no groundsheet or overwrap
Rod pod
Rod carryall with nets and rods in.
Maybe 1. Bucket with bait
Lightweight Trakker bed chair with pillow and bed chair cover as a duvet

That's about it
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #8 12 Sep 2020 17:39
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In reply to Post #1
. . .personally think you can only really scale down when you're fishing the same water / have fished it for a bit. This way you can really minimise end tackle to the 9th degree and genuinely only take what works / what you actually need. Failing that take the kitchen sink and leave most of it in the car (as long as its secure and not miles away)

dickweed dickweed
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Post #9 12 Sep 2020 17:49
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No hot food and hot drinks so no kettle and cooker
Small luggage scales digital. Better scales left in car if I get worried about ounces.
3 spare leads.
Less than a kilo of bait
1 pot of my favourite pop ups in 35 mm film canister so about 8 baits.
Phone for camera
Jag bank stick for tripod

7kg Bedchair
Fortis bag
Cut down tempest v1.
2 rods.

I just do 12 hour overnights and get by fine.

20 kg the whole lot.
TeeCee
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Post #10 12 Sep 2020 19:32
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In reply to Post #9
That's awesome mate.

Do any of you guys use a decent burgen, you know, like a military one? Makes things a tad easier.
lilharbs lilharbs
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Post #11 12 Sep 2020 19:53
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In reply to Post #9
Jeez no cuppa first thing in the morning, sad times ☹️
framey framey
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Post #12 12 Sep 2020 20:34
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In reply to Post #11
Take a flask to the bank
Keep the brew kit in the vehicle
Mr-Bean-Laden Mr-Bean-Laden
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Post #13 12 Sep 2020 20:43
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No. 1 tip, don't but stainless sticks/ pods.
DenzelLN
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Post #14 12 Sep 2020 21:00
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In reply to Post #1
You could go mad and ditch the bedchair. Sleep on a rollmat in a snugpak ionosphere or similar.

That, sleeping bag, pillow, bait, food and gear should/could all go in a rucksack leaving you with just a rodbag to carry. Mat strapped to rucksack.

Extreme, but there you go.

I only fish days on a little syndicate, Chair is stashed at the lake as is the mat. Two rod sleeve, small 30ltr rucksack, end tackle in a jag sharpening pouch - don't carry rig making stuff at all. Full rig box. Fish singles mostly, working great at the minute although i reckon i might need to carry some boilies now its cooled down a little.

I do more climbing than fishing so im used to a stripped back approach.

DarthMullet
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Post #15 12 Sep 2020 22:26
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In reply to Post #1
Fox Easy Shelter Plus. 3.8kg including pegs. Up and down fast.
Ampulla.co.uk for hook bait pots, tea bag pots, water container etc.
TeeCee
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Post #16 12 Sep 2020 22:57
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Hennessy Hammock weighs about 2lb

MSR AutoFlow XL Gravity Water Filter which can do 10L in one go

GoreTex bivvy bag for a shelter instead of a hammock

Thermarest self inflatable mattress which can double up as an unhooking mat

Hellinox cot one camping cot, ultra light, ultra packable bed weighs 6 lbs 4 oz and can cope with someone who weighs 145kg

MSR titanium cookware

Large poncho, paracord and MSR ultralight titanium pegs to make a shelter

No rod bag, just your rods and landing net bundled together with 2 or 3 velcro bindings
dickweed dickweed
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Post #17 12 Sep 2020 23:38
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Don't take a pillow just roll up a fortis / softie jacket so it's always to hand when u get a run in the night.
Comebackkid Comebackkid
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Post #18 13 Sep 2020 08:25
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For me it doesn't matter how much or little you take as long as it all fits easily on one barrow load.

No different taking half a barrow vs a full one, it's still a barrow to push round the lake.

Fish off the barrow and try keep everything compartmentalised so it's easy to pack away and locate tackle.

I'd rather be fishing knowing I have everything I need rather than wishing I had brought a specific item of tackle or equipment for the sake of leaving one bucket behind.
scaley&dark
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Post #19 13 Sep 2020 11:24
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In reply to Post #18
Honestly I think that it is not until you have to, or give it a dedicated effort to carry your tackle, rucksack, bed chair, sling, unhooking mat.... shock horror, like the old days, how did we manage ?

That's when you realise the bulk in size, or weight of a lot of the unnecessary junk we cart about that doesn't put extra fish on the bank, and / or hinders moving quickly.

Mistabite
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Post #20 13 Sep 2020 12:03
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In reply to Post #19
Yes.... or until your barrow breaks/gets a flat tyre and you have to resort to carrying it all

Im hardly going to win any awards for the lightest load, but this is where I'm at right now.

Looking to cut back on the unhooking mat that's across the barrow handles, the new Aqua atom inflatable one looked good but seems small and expensive.

This pic is from a two nighter, I don't use the under barrow bag on work overnighters (carrying extra food, bait and water here).

Could also lose the aqua quiver base to save weight but it's carrying a few bits and goes in and out of the car easy.

The other thing about work overnighters is how quick you can unload the car onto the barrow and vice versa for the morning trip back. A van and ramp for the barrow would be ideal but I'm sure they tend to get broken into more for tools etc.

Essentially, it's bed/bag, bivvy bag, rod bag, mat and a small carryall and done.

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dickweed dickweed
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Post #21 13 Sep 2020 16:02
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I got rid of my barrow as I found it too much hassle. I only use a Ford Focus so not got the convenience of a van. Just another thing to load in and out of the car.
I carry my overnight gear about 400 yards which is not to bad. There's a few gates to go through so I get a break part way through the walk.
cyprymike cyprymike
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Post #22 13 Sep 2020 18:40
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In reply to Post #6
That's what I use I think NGT did a copy as well.
TeeCee
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Post #23 13 Sep 2020 19:24
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In reply to Post #22
You got a link please Mike? Just to help others out
dickweed dickweed
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Post #24 13 Sep 2020 19:57
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Euro zip mat holds cut down v1 tempest, 2 rods and net,

No need for sleeves or a rod bag.

Bedchair with fortis bag inside carried with other hand.

Very small carryall around shoulder that sits on the lower back. 4kg.

That's it.

No additional buckets or gallons of water.
cyprymike cyprymike
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Post #25 13 Sep 2020 22:57
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In reply to Post #23
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/thinking-anglers-tackle-pouch

This is my one it's discontinued but you may find stock somewhere.
bigappleslice bigappleslice
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Post #26 14 Sep 2020 06:39
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In reply to Post #1
get yourself a rucksack.

I use the thinking anglers one, I take my rucksack with, terminal, buzzbars and bank sticks, hook baits, space change of clothes, leads markers/spombs, bite alarms &receiver and stove/gas.
bedchair
unhooking mat with scales/carp care stored inside
coolbag/baitbag (thinking anglers)
2/3rod quiver to keep weight down

bivvy for summer is an esp lo pro
for the colder weather I take my tempest composite.
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