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Hookbait for avoiding nuisance fish? (25 posts / 2,347 views)
Cadby17 Cadby17
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Post #1 12 Aug 2020 21:43
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What are your guys go to hookbait to avoid nuisance fish?

My current syndicate is plagued with bream up to 10lb+. I have been using snowmen which does avoid the bream well but I don't have a snowman rig that i'm currently super confident in, so im open to other options.
hyperloop hyperloop
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Post #2 12 Aug 2020 22:05
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Extra big ones, tigers or tall hinges.
tomsher01 tomsher01
Posts: 998
Post #3 12 Aug 2020 22:22
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Depends on the bottom, if it's clear and I am confident a bottom bait will be presented well huge snowmen rigs (most carp can manage them. If it's not clear bottom then I would go with a big pop up on a stiff hinge and spread of boilies. Problems come for me in shallow water that's weedy , then it's struggle street
Gashman Gashman
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Post #4 12 Aug 2020 22:38
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Double big tigers
yonny yonny
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Post #5 13 Aug 2020 07:23
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Nothing will stop them but a hinge will go some way to slowing them down.
Massive baits is an option but imo the bigger you go, the more you're hurting your chances of a carp.
MARKerz
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Post #6 13 Aug 2020 09:43
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What rig were/are you using for fishing snowmen? If it's working it seems odd to change.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #7 13 Aug 2020 09:51
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. . for bottom baits - double 18mm's on a long hair
ciderman
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Post #8 13 Aug 2020 10:43
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Tigers
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #9 13 Aug 2020 10:48
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My syndicate is plagued with Bream up to 20lb and you just can't beat them, just have to hope the Carp move in and bully them off
BillsBankLife BillsBankLife
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Post #10 13 Aug 2020 12:21
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i'm having the same problem on my current syndicate , but with tench not bream ! i have switched to boilie only approach and still hauling the buggers but from talking to a fair number of people they seem few and far between ! my last 6 bites have been tench , any suggestions ?
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #11 13 Aug 2020 12:28
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. . .only thing I would say if you are catching tench is that your rigs must be working and they are placed effectively . . .big tench can be finicky / harder to catch so perhaps a good sign rather than a bad one . . .keep the bait going in to get on the carp . . .
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #12 13 Aug 2020 12:29
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Agreed
BillsBankLife BillsBankLife
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Post #13 13 Aug 2020 12:32
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i know i should be taking confidence from it as the rigs and spots are working however when i'm currently on double figures whilst people who have been on there years haven't had a touch from one its just frustrating , granted if i was on a float rod id be over the moon with some off them. just cant work out why i'm getting plagued
James_9
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Post #14 13 Aug 2020 12:56
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Give the large black tigers from CC MOORE a go, they are steeped in liquid but bream and tench tend to shy away from them. An outstanding bait that is rarely used.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #15 13 Aug 2020 15:08
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I use either double 18mm bottom baits or an 18mm bottom and a 15mm pop-up on a size 4 Gardner Mugga or Solar 101.

Rigwise I keep it simple, a knotless knotted braid combi link or coated braid hooklink with a line aligner.

I tie the pop-up on separately to the hair loop. A uni knot loop made with dental floss, or mono with the pop-up inside and then double granny or reef knot to the loop, with the ends cut and lighter tagged.

I avoid cereal groundbait, preferring to use just hemp and boilies. Groundbait like Vitalin, Pigeon conditioner and pellets are bream attractors, often before the carp get there.

I haven't had a single bream out of the reservoir doing that, yet others who use Vitalin and smaller baits have caught them.
mal mal
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Post #16 13 Aug 2020 15:20
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Call me weird, but I'd not complain about a 20lb bream...
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #17 13 Aug 2020 15:26
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mal mal
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Post #18 13 Aug 2020 15:36
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NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #19 13 Aug 2020 19:47
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How are you getting on with the Carp from R? Any signs of the myths at all?
scozza
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Post #20 13 Aug 2020 20:17
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You will usually pick Tench up in the margins and Bream at range.

ForTench and Bream to an extent, a very long hair for me.

Not sure if it's the weather or what but I am totally fed up with catching bream at the moment, they are of a decent stamp but a complete pain in the arse, going nuts
Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,794
Post #21 13 Aug 2020 20:27
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Haven't personally seen the ‘myths' but I have finally caught a couple of carp
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #22 13 Aug 2020 20:35
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Excellent, well done!
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #23 13 Aug 2020 20:44
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Brazil nut
James_9
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Post #24 13 Aug 2020 21:02
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An old classic, overlooked nowadays...

Awesome hookbait.
Carew Carew
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Post #25 13 Aug 2020 21:47
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