anyone have any thoughts on the cyprinus typhoon bivvy 
In reply to Post #1
isn't it just a tempest with a different badge?
isn't it just a tempest with a different badge?
In reply to Post #2
It is, sort of, the block mechanism is different on the Typhoon, you have to plug the front arms in as apposed to the lever that flips the whole thing together on the tempest, obviously that is the bit that holds the patent.
It is, sort of, the block mechanism is different on the Typhoon, you have to plug the front arms in as apposed to the lever that flips the whole thing together on the tempest, obviously that is the bit that holds the patent.
In reply to Post #3
Whats the build quality like with there gear?
Whats the build quality like with there gear?
In reply to Post #3
I will let you know when mine turns up, I have ordered a typhoon (Ripstop version) with vapour shield, skull cap and overwrap, however I am away for 3 - 4 weeks so wont be in a position to use and provide any feedback until the end of July.
I have had most versions of the tempest bivvy and brollies over the years and more recently a Titan Hide Xl so should be able to provide some valuable feedback when I get chance to use it.
I will let you know when mine turns up, I have ordered a typhoon (Ripstop version) with vapour shield, skull cap and overwrap, however I am away for 3 - 4 weeks so wont be in a position to use and provide any feedback until the end of July.
I have had most versions of the tempest bivvy and brollies over the years and more recently a Titan Hide Xl so should be able to provide some valuable feedback when I get chance to use it.
In reply to Post #5
How much did u pay for it mate ?
How much did u pay for it mate ?
In reply to Post #6
the quality is pretty good having looked one over. built to the same standard at the trakker ones.
I know they have re-enforced the poles or are sending out collars as I think they open up or split.
I have a feeling that a lot of companies will be forced to operate like cyprinus in the future and sell direct cutting out the shops.
the thing is now a days anyone can go to china and start a brand. if you have the money to do it. you don't even need to design anything you can pretty much build a bivvy off the shelf nicking ideas from other bivvies and then bang you have your own bivvy
the quality is pretty good having looked one over. built to the same standard at the trakker ones.
I know they have re-enforced the poles or are sending out collars as I think they open up or split.
I have a feeling that a lot of companies will be forced to operate like cyprinus in the future and sell direct cutting out the shops.
the thing is now a days anyone can go to china and start a brand. if you have the money to do it. you don't even need to design anything you can pretty much build a bivvy off the shelf nicking ideas from other bivvies and then bang you have your own bivvy
In reply to Post #7
This looks suspiciously like the Typhoon to me and for £165! Min order 50 though...
https://eupheng.en.alibaba.com/product/62432791767-800600038/Carp_Fishing_Bivvy_Tent_Shelter_Quick_Erect_Lightweight_Waterproof_Includes_Groundsheet_Carry_Bag_B06_.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.8.273d4ddbbLpwJ1
This looks suspiciously like the Typhoon to me and for £165! Min order 50 though...
https://eupheng.en.alibaba.com/product/62432791767-800600038/Carp_Fishing_Bivvy_Tent_Shelter_Quick_Erect_Lightweight_Waterproof_Includes_Groundsheet_Carry_Bag_B06_.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.8.273d4ddbbLpwJ1
In reply to Post #8
Someone on one of my lakes has the dpm version looks mint tbh
Someone on one of my lakes has the dpm version looks mint tbh
In reply to Post #8
Wow nice find that even uses some of the same pics and lists the same items like magnetix storm poles 
Thought the cyprinus version was overpriced, considering their prices on the M4 pram hood and their fast and light brollies seemed a much better deal than any of the typhoons
Wow nice find
that even uses some of the same pics and lists the same items like magnetix storm poles Thought the cyprinus version was overpriced, considering their prices on the M4 pram hood and their fast and light brollies seemed a much better deal than any of the typhoons
In reply to Post #10
I suspect greed will get involved, cut out the middleman and then eventually sell direct at near the middleman prices.
I suspect greed will get involved, cut out the middleman and then eventually sell direct at near the middleman prices.
In reply to Post #8
wonder if we can rustle up 50 members and place an order
wonder if we can rustle up 50 members and place an order
In reply to Post #12
That's the way to truly ditch the carp tax innit
That's the way to truly ditch the carp tax innit
In reply to Post #13
are you volunteering your credit card then Yonny
are you volunteering your credit card then Yonny
In reply to Post #14
No I'm not lol but if I was after something like that I'd defo try to start a group on here to pursue the idea.
No I'm not lol but if I was after something like that I'd defo try to start a group on here to pursue the idea.
In reply to Post #12
I was thinking the same thing but not brave enough to write it
I was thinking the same thing but not brave enough to write it
In reply to Post #16
I saw a fella on cyprinus website advertising for PMs, hed just done this as well. was asking for 90 quid a bivvy..... doub t it lasted long on there though did make me chuckle..
I saw a fella on cyprinus website advertising for PMs, hed just done this as well. was asking for 90 quid a bivvy..... doub t it lasted long on there though did make me chuckle..
In reply to Post #8
just had a look on alibaba and identical (saw Nash-esque sleep systems on there aswell). No doubt there is some extra costs involved for import plus quality control issues once received so not all may meet the grade so can see where the extra mark up comes from once profits are added and to cover overheads etc.
I still prefer the tempest style system as this looks a bit of a hassle in comparison although I know they have there own quality issues also apparently.
just had a look on alibaba and identical (saw Nash-esque sleep systems on there aswell). No doubt there is some extra costs involved for import plus quality control issues once received so not all may meet the grade so can see where the extra mark up comes from once profits are added and to cover overheads etc.
I still prefer the tempest style system as this looks a bit of a hassle in comparison although I know they have there own quality issues also apparently.
Just because they have lifted a photo from a website or promo material that looks identical, does not mean that will resemble what turns up off the boat in 10 weeks once they have your money. 
IMO you would have to be pretty naive to place an order of 50 units of anything based on a photo listed on Alibaba.
IMO you would have to be pretty naive to place an order of 50 units of anything based on a photo listed on Alibaba.
In reply to Post #19
Where do you think half the gear we buy comes from?.... Some would say you are naive if you think its any different
Where do you think half the gear we buy comes from?.... Some would say you are naive if you think its any different
In reply to Post #19
So far I have from cyprinus their version of the mk1 fast and light with an over wrap. No issues.
Their version of the M3 compact with over wrap. No issues.
I'm tempted to get one of the storms just out of curiosity, from what I can see it's essential a tempest brolly, but they've added rear vents and it comes with the infill and the groundsheet instead of needing to purchase them separately like a trakker.
As we've known for ages it's all the same Chinese sweat shop tat whether it's a known premium brand or not.
Anyone know what happened to Tackle Discounts? I used them for my cyprinus stuff but when looking on eBay they seem to have disappeared now and the only place to purchase seems to be the cyprinus website directly. I think they were in Swindon???
So far I have from cyprinus their version of the mk1 fast and light with an over wrap. No issues.
Their version of the M3 compact with over wrap. No issues.
I'm tempted to get one of the storms just out of curiosity, from what I can see it's essential a tempest brolly, but they've added rear vents and it comes with the infill and the groundsheet instead of needing to purchase them separately like a trakker.
As we've known for ages it's all the same Chinese sweat shop tat whether it's a known premium brand or not.
Anyone know what happened to Tackle Discounts? I used them for my cyprinus stuff but when looking on eBay they seem to have disappeared now and the only place to purchase seems to be the cyprinus website directly. I think they were in Swindon???
In reply to Post #19
Agree, you'd have to take advantage of the sampling offer:
USD200.00 to USD220.00 based on different order quantity. Sample is available and we just charge sample cost, and customer is responsible for the shipping cost. Customer design, logo and package are supported.
I have absolutely no doubt that this is the same bivvy, produced using the same tooling and material, in the same factory, as the Cyprinus.
Agree, you'd have to take advantage of the sampling offer:
USD200.00 to USD220.00 based on different order quantity. Sample is available and we just charge sample cost, and customer is responsible for the shipping cost. Customer design, logo and package are supported.
I have absolutely no doubt that this is the same bivvy, produced using the same tooling and material, in the same factory, as the Cyprinus.
In reply to Post #20
I don't think you understand my point.
Of course most equipment comes from the same chinese factories.
My point was that Alibaba is notoriously rife with scammers posing as Chinese factory owners.
Lift a load of photos from Nash, Trakker etc. Put up a legit looking website shop, also list on Alibaba..
See where I'm going with this?!
I don't think you understand my point.
Of course most equipment comes from the same chinese factories.
My point was that Alibaba is notoriously rife with scammers posing as Chinese factory owners.
Lift a load of photos from Nash, Trakker etc. Put up a legit looking website shop, also list on Alibaba..
See where I'm going with this?!
In reply to Post #23
I see yes, and did. But that's what buyer protection is for! There are scammers everywhere, it's all about common sense. I even had one on here with the so called thumb as protection against it
I see yes, and did. But that's what buyer protection is for! There are scammers everywhere, it's all about common sense. I even had one on here with the so called thumb as protection against it
In reply to Post #23
You're protected by Alibaba though mate.
You're protected by Alibaba though mate.
So you pay out 50 x £165 . Plus your shipping, import taxes etc probably going to be near enough £10k.
You wait your 10 weeks, plus god knows how long in customs then you take your delivery. The package arrives and it's 50 brollies that kind of look the same as an Aqua/Trakker/Nash one you saw in the photo, but they are not exactly the same and not what you or the 50 people you ordered for want.
Report to Alibaba, they go to the seller and the seller says you have the correct item. What next?
You would have to prove that each of the 50 items is defective and the seller would have to concede. This is would be best possible outcome and they agree a return.
Who pays for the return shipping and insurance back to china? Who covers your import duty costs?
Unless you are experienced with international trade and shipping on a commercial level it is my opinion that you would be naive to take it on and think it was going to be as easy as a brand new Aqua bivvy turning up on your doorstep for 25% of the price.
But would love someone to take a punt and prove me wrong for sure..
You wait your 10 weeks, plus god knows how long in customs then you take your delivery. The package arrives and it's 50 brollies that kind of look the same as an Aqua/Trakker/Nash one you saw in the photo, but they are not exactly the same and not what you or the 50 people you ordered for want.
Report to Alibaba, they go to the seller and the seller says you have the correct item. What next?
You would have to prove that each of the 50 items is defective and the seller would have to concede. This is would be best possible outcome and they agree a return.
Who pays for the return shipping and insurance back to china? Who covers your import duty costs?
Unless you are experienced with international trade and shipping on a commercial level it is my opinion that you would be naive to take it on and think it was going to be as easy as a brand new Aqua bivvy turning up on your doorstep for 25% of the price.
But would love someone to take a punt and prove me wrong for sure..
In reply to Post #26
I think you're covered for all of this through Trade Assurance.
I think you're covered for all of this through Trade Assurance.
In reply to Post #26
Something like this, is more hassle than it's worth. Any cash saving would be quickly eradicated by the time involvement and associated import costs. That coupled with the risk of initial payment doesn't make it a viable option in my opinion.
I would also like to think that buying via a known brand, you could expect a certain level of customer service and aftercare support.
Something like this, is more hassle than it's worth. Any cash saving would be quickly eradicated by the time involvement and associated import costs. That coupled with the risk of initial payment doesn't make it a viable option in my opinion.
I would also like to think that buying via a known brand, you could expect a certain level of customer service and aftercare support.
In reply to Post #26
There's plenty of suppliers on places like ebay knocking out blatant alibaba purchases all over the place and doing OK out if it by the looks of it. Fair play to them
There's plenty of suppliers on places like ebay knocking out blatant alibaba purchases all over the place and doing OK out if it by the looks of it. Fair play to them
One thing to also consider is where you are on the supply chain, perhaps these are all cyprinus rejects or ones that are sub par and they are selling them off via a different channel... Wonder how much a sample order would cost with all the associated import fees etc?
In reply to Post #30
They are manufactured to order.
Cyprinus have built an entire business and brand around this activity so there must be something in it lol.
They are manufactured to order.
Cyprinus have built an entire business and brand around this activity so there must be something in it lol.
Hmm I'm not sure I believe that, assembled to order perhaps but not made from scratch... The material or any components could be seconds/rejects. I doubt cyprinus just order off alibaba but I guess we will never know for sure...
In reply to Post #32
Cyprinus won't be buying from Alibaba, they will be dealing direct with a factory more than likely a similar factory to one that is putting them on alibaba. There will be loads of manufacturers stealing designs and ideas where they can and all building to some form of spec, but will have slight differences between factories
Cyprinus won't be buying from Alibaba, they will be dealing direct with a factory more than likely a similar factory to one that is putting them on alibaba. There will be loads of manufacturers stealing designs and ideas where they can and all building to some form of spec, but will have slight differences between factories
so you are a Chinese factory owner and one of the big names says I want 10,000 of these bivvys the factory owner sorts all the machines and jigs sources the materials sets everything up then makes and delivers the order
what do they do when the orders from the company dry up ?
well my guess is they then make a load more after all they have now covered the cost of the machines and jigs hence they rebadge them maybe a slight alteration and sell them to who ever wants them as they can now sell them cheaper
what do they do when the orders from the company dry up ?
well my guess is they then make a load more after all they have now covered the cost of the machines and jigs hence they rebadge them maybe a slight alteration and sell them to who ever wants them as they can now sell them cheaper
In reply to Post #33
I agree they'll probs use a different supply chain.
I agree they'll probs use a different supply chain.
In reply to Post #34
This is pretty common, especially for highly sought after electrical items.
In the markets across China you can pick up brand new iPhones for example, without the badge, for a lot less than you'll pick up from Apple. They are exactly the same, just missing the Apple logo & ID. Same can be said for other electrical items (e.g. headphones, speakers etc.), once the original order is complete, the factories will continue to churn out products for secondary resale.
I have no doubt the same is happening across the spectrum
This is pretty common, especially for highly sought after electrical items.
In the markets across China you can pick up brand new iPhones for example, without the badge, for a lot less than you'll pick up from Apple. They are exactly the same, just missing the Apple logo & ID. Same can be said for other electrical items (e.g. headphones, speakers etc.), once the original order is complete, the factories will continue to churn out products for secondary resale.
I have no doubt the same is happening across the spectrum
In reply to Post #26
There are Chinese directors at Cyprynus so i'd imagine they have all the box's ticked when it comes with dealing with the factories out in China.
There are Chinese directors at Cyprynus so i'd imagine they have all the box's ticked when it comes with dealing with the factories out in China.
In reply to Post #37
Anyone got any updated reviews or feedback? Looking at the MHR version on the typhoon but just looking for general feedback. My main concern is the block and the front poles slipping. Thanks.
Anyone got any updated reviews or feedback? Looking at the MHR version on the typhoon but just looking for general feedback. My main concern is the block and the front poles slipping. Thanks.
In reply to Post #38
MH has thumb screw locking poles, I have original typhoon and got sent a set for free on request, customer service is fantastic I have had no issues with original typhoon and now the poles are anti twist as well. Buy with confidence!
MH has thumb screw locking poles, I have original typhoon and got sent a set for free on request, customer service is fantastic I have had no issues with original typhoon and now the poles are anti twist as well. Buy with confidence!
In reply to Post #38
I've been using mine since March and I cannot fault it. I've never had the storm poles slip at all. I love the zip in heavy duty ground sheet it's not that fiddly and it keeps out all the bugs and droughts out. The material is very good nice and thick keeps the bivvy nice and cool. It's very stable too I'm currently sat in it now and the winds are around d 45mph at the moment and its coping fine there rising to 54mph later tonight I'm not worried about it as I've been out with it in similar winds before. I think for the money it's a great bivvy and build quality is no worse than my tempest bivvy and brolly.
I've been using mine since March and I cannot fault it. I've never had the storm poles slip at all. I love the zip in heavy duty ground sheet it's not that fiddly and it keeps out all the bugs and droughts out. The material is very good nice and thick keeps the bivvy nice and cool. It's very stable too I'm currently sat in it now and the winds are around d 45mph at the moment and its coping fine there rising to 54mph later tonight I'm not worried about it as I've been out with it in similar winds before. I think for the money it's a great bivvy and build quality is no worse than my tempest bivvy and brolly.
In reply to Post #40
Thing is they aren't that cheap these days. Titan t1 is similar price to the mh
Thing is they aren't that cheap these days. Titan t1 is similar price to the mh
RCG Alpha X1 Seems like a good alternative to the 10,000 MH, inner capsule and overwrapare also available
In reply to Post #41
T1 is £100 more and smaller - from what I can see. My back is ****ed so looking for something taller and can't justify spending £700 on tempest 150 👍
T1 is £100 more and smaller - from what I can see. My back is ****ed so looking for something taller and can't justify spending £700 on tempest 150 👍
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Yep, I do. I've had first hand experience of this brand.
Firstly, customer service is outstanding. Quick, responsive and takes action on sending replacements quickly.
In terms of product quality; the Typhoon MH DPM is poorly made. The stitching is shoddy, the overall feel is not worth the price tag of £550 for the bivvy and then £110 for it the skull cap. The velcro straps on the skull cap is like something you'd find from Poundland when you've bought from John Lewis expecting that quality. The 20,000 HH material on the bivvy had 3 holes in my first bivvy. Sent it back. The replacement had 1 hole in it. Light coming through when inside it. The storm poles loose their tension after a couple of minutes which made them completely pointless. Just for show in the end. The groundsheet is laughable. Heavy duty
. They provide a small piece of fleece like material for the boss which again, seems like it was found around the back of the bins at Poundland, thrown on and stuffed inside the bag that has a Trakker logo. Although do not be mistaken by thinking this is a case of, “ ...but it comes from the same factory as Aqua and Trakker, therefore muuuuuust be great quality....”. Nope!
Why was I attracted to the Typhoon? A few reasons; the height of 152cm, the HH at 20,000, the ease of setting it up, zip in groundsheet, 4 vents and the internal space. Not to mention I thought the price was reasonable based on it being a good quality product.
I sacked it off. Got a refund and now plunging my money into a Frontier XD. Hoping that Fox will pull it out the bag. I mean, it's taken them 5 years to rip off everyone else so you'd think it'll be bang on.
Yep, I do. I've had first hand experience of this brand.
Firstly, customer service is outstanding. Quick, responsive and takes action on sending replacements quickly.
In terms of product quality; the Typhoon MH DPM is poorly made. The stitching is shoddy, the overall feel is not worth the price tag of £550 for the bivvy and then £110 for it the skull cap. The velcro straps on the skull cap is like something you'd find from Poundland when you've bought from John Lewis expecting that quality. The 20,000 HH material on the bivvy had 3 holes in my first bivvy. Sent it back. The replacement had 1 hole in it. Light coming through when inside it. The storm poles loose their tension after a couple of minutes which made them completely pointless. Just for show in the end. The groundsheet is laughable. Heavy duty
. They provide a small piece of fleece like material for the boss which again, seems like it was found around the back of the bins at Poundland, thrown on and stuffed inside the bag that has a Trakker logo. Although do not be mistaken by thinking this is a case of, “ ...but it comes from the same factory as Aqua and Trakker, therefore muuuuuust be great quality....”. Nope! Why was I attracted to the Typhoon? A few reasons; the height of 152cm, the HH at 20,000, the ease of setting it up, zip in groundsheet, 4 vents and the internal space. Not to mention I thought the price was reasonable based on it being a good quality product.
I sacked it off. Got a refund and now plunging my money into a Frontier XD. Hoping that Fox will pull it out the bag. I mean, it's taken them 5 years to rip off everyone else so you'd think it'll be bang on.
In reply to Post #42
Rcg does look ok, not a brand I know much about other than the raptor boats
Rcg does look ok, not a brand I know much about other than the raptor boats
In reply to Post #44
Exactly my experience with it, a very good friend of mine has had enough and got a refund, he is buying a tempest like I have he now wishes he never bothered with the typhoon, it's so cheaply made. 3 of the pegging points on the bivvy popped off in the first session he used it, even the cyprinus badges on his bivvy had been put on upside down on his, now for a £550 bivvy you wouldn't expect that even from a cheap brand like cyprinus.
Here comes the people who say it's built in the same factory as trakker/ aqua so it must be the same quality but I can assure you they are not even close to being the same quality, I use to have a tempest v2 brolly before my tempest 100T and the v2 brolly being half the price of the typhoon was much better quality
Exactly my experience with it, a very good friend of mine has had enough and got a refund, he is buying a tempest like I have he now wishes he never bothered with the typhoon, it's so cheaply made. 3 of the pegging points on the bivvy popped off in the first session he used it, even the cyprinus badges on his bivvy had been put on upside down on his, now for a £550 bivvy you wouldn't expect that even from a cheap brand like cyprinus.
Here comes the people who say it's built in the same factory as trakker/ aqua so it must be the same quality but I can assure you they are not even close to being the same quality, I use to have a tempest v2 brolly before my tempest 100T and the v2 brolly being half the price of the typhoon was much better quality
In reply to Post #46
They were made in the same factory until recently........
Problem is Cyprinus were a budget brand who have slowly increased their prices to premium brand prices without making sure the quality reflects it.......greedy to be fair!!
They were made in the same factory until recently........
Problem is Cyprinus were a budget brand who have slowly increased their prices to premium brand prices without making sure the quality reflects it.......greedy to be fair!!
In reply to Post #45
Friend of mine who is a huge Trakker / Aqua fan has the Raptor unhooking mat and landing net, says this is the best quality he has ever had.
If the corona rules allow it, I will soon go to their store/demo room in the Netherlands
Friend of mine who is a huge Trakker / Aqua fan has the Raptor unhooking mat and landing net, says this is the best quality he has ever had.
If the corona rules allow it, I will soon go to their store/demo room in the Netherlands
In reply to Post #47
I don't deny it was made it the same factory I'm just saying for some reason they ain't made to the same quality that's all bud, I no what you mean with the greed thing. My dad has a cyrpinus bed that is actually pretty good for what he needs (he doesn't go as much as me) and was very cheap compared to others for the same size but like you said once they started upping there prices they need to up there game with quality which I'm sure they could do
I don't deny it was made it the same factory I'm just saying for some reason they ain't made to the same quality that's all bud, I no what you mean with the greed thing. My dad has a cyrpinus bed that is actually pretty good for what he needs (he doesn't go as much as me) and was very cheap compared to others for the same size but like you said once they started upping there prices they need to up there game with quality which I'm sure they could do
In reply to Post #44
Good luck with fox build quality lol.
Good luck with fox build quality lol.
In reply to Post #50
If it's **** like Cyprinus then I'll send it back and get a refund, again
At least then I'll know first hand the quality of this model.
What have you experienced with Fox bivvys in the past?
If it's **** like Cyprinus then I'll send it back and get a refund, again
At least then I'll know first hand the quality of this model. What have you experienced with Fox bivvys in the past?
In reply to Post #47
I've got a Cyprinus Memory foam bed that I paid about £90 on eBay
And I've got a Cyprinus 2 man bivvy with overwrap that I've used when in France that cost about £150.00 via eBay again
Great value but when they are asking silly money for what is a budget brand then possibly the aftercare etc need to up its game
Used to be great value stuff but I don't feel its value for money anymore
I've got a Cyprinus Memory foam bed that I paid about £90 on eBay
And I've got a Cyprinus 2 man bivvy with overwrap that I've used when in France that cost about £150.00 via eBay again
Great value but when they are asking silly money for what is a budget brand then possibly the aftercare etc need to up its game
Used to be great value stuff but I don't feel its value for money anymore
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