I decided to purchase both of these bivvys to see which one was the best..keeping in mind the cyprinus was a bit cheaper and came with some extras.
I bought the V2 bivvy system from danson for £425 and the Typhoon direct for £365 on one of their Popcorn bidding auctions.
So first impressions of the tempest were good. I've owned the original air and liked it. I did find the quality was flawed in certain areas but as a shelter it was good. The V2, although the older model now, seems well built. I checked over the stitching and it was all good apart from a couple of small tag ends which I can forgive. Material is a heavy duty aquatex which I like due to stopping light coming in during the day. The frame was nicely finished although I have noticed, that after erecting the bivvy only a handful of times, the black anodising is chipping very easily. The groundsheet is a true heavy duty and all accessories seem fairly good quality... The price I paid seemed fair but I don't think it's worth the £700-£800 price the newer models seem to have. The whole Adaptive Ventilation technology on their newer bivvys is just another marketing trick like their chain link technology.......come on guys, just tell us you've improved the summer sweats with a bit more breeze and those bloody elastics won't break. Overall the I was impressed with the tempest. No where near as bad as some.of the horrors I have heard, but then I might of been lucky a f it is still early days.....
So today I took delivery of a M4 typhoon bivvy........
Firsts impressions were this. Opened the box to find a near identical looking bag to the tempest. As soon as I picked it up I noticed the bag material and handles were no where near as thick as what is used on the nxg bag supplied with the tempest. Not a good start but it's just a carry bag......in the box was another toggle bag which had the pegs in. This was made from bivvy and ground sheet material. The pegs supplied are very poor quality with almost an overspill of plastic from the moulds which had not been cut off. Going from bad to worse here 😳 I took the bivvy out to my grassed lawn to put up and unrolled the bivvy. Inside was the groundsheet, vapour shield and bag with storm poles. Immediately I could see the vapour shield had loads of thread hanging off the stitching. When I checked it over I was not impressed with the following finish. Okay, this may just bee long tag ends from the stitching but I would not accept this if I were buying a t-shirt describes as a premium line..
I went on to erect the shelter. Pretty much the same as the tempest..unfold, sections together and then fan out. This is where the similarities stop. I came to put the 3 front poles into the central block and found the inner bore of the tube to be much larger than the male section of the block. The poles are then tensioned with a camlock type system which actually works well. The problem lies with the poor quality ill fitting tubes. When I had tensioned all of these I realised the front was sagging and needed the storm poles to hold the weigh of this area up.....something the tempest doesn't need. At this point it was enough to see.....the tempest is on a different level for me... I have never been a big trakker fan but when I compared the 2 of these it was a clear winner.....the tempest! Not only was the design of the tempest much better also the quality higher. I must add that one of the front rib poles on the typhoon has shown an area of stress where it has been inserted after one use..it's boxed up ready to be shipped back..
Summary is the tempest,.as most will know, is a.better shelter.
If you were.thinking about the typhoon and have owned a tempest then don't bother. If your after a quick erect shelter then there are plenty out there to choose from...maybe I was unlucky with this one......but I'm.not.so.sure 🤔
I bought the V2 bivvy system from danson for £425 and the Typhoon direct for £365 on one of their Popcorn bidding auctions.
So first impressions of the tempest were good. I've owned the original air and liked it. I did find the quality was flawed in certain areas but as a shelter it was good. The V2, although the older model now, seems well built. I checked over the stitching and it was all good apart from a couple of small tag ends which I can forgive. Material is a heavy duty aquatex which I like due to stopping light coming in during the day. The frame was nicely finished although I have noticed, that after erecting the bivvy only a handful of times, the black anodising is chipping very easily. The groundsheet is a true heavy duty and all accessories seem fairly good quality... The price I paid seemed fair but I don't think it's worth the £700-£800 price the newer models seem to have. The whole Adaptive Ventilation technology on their newer bivvys is just another marketing trick like their chain link technology.......come on guys, just tell us you've improved the summer sweats with a bit more breeze and those bloody elastics won't break. Overall the I was impressed with the tempest. No where near as bad as some.of the horrors I have heard, but then I might of been lucky a f it is still early days.....
So today I took delivery of a M4 typhoon bivvy........
Firsts impressions were this. Opened the box to find a near identical looking bag to the tempest. As soon as I picked it up I noticed the bag material and handles were no where near as thick as what is used on the nxg bag supplied with the tempest. Not a good start but it's just a carry bag......in the box was another toggle bag which had the pegs in. This was made from bivvy and ground sheet material. The pegs supplied are very poor quality with almost an overspill of plastic from the moulds which had not been cut off. Going from bad to worse here 😳 I took the bivvy out to my grassed lawn to put up and unrolled the bivvy. Inside was the groundsheet, vapour shield and bag with storm poles. Immediately I could see the vapour shield had loads of thread hanging off the stitching. When I checked it over I was not impressed with the following finish. Okay, this may just bee long tag ends from the stitching but I would not accept this if I were buying a t-shirt describes as a premium line..
I went on to erect the shelter. Pretty much the same as the tempest..unfold, sections together and then fan out. This is where the similarities stop. I came to put the 3 front poles into the central block and found the inner bore of the tube to be much larger than the male section of the block. The poles are then tensioned with a camlock type system which actually works well. The problem lies with the poor quality ill fitting tubes. When I had tensioned all of these I realised the front was sagging and needed the storm poles to hold the weigh of this area up.....something the tempest doesn't need. At this point it was enough to see.....the tempest is on a different level for me... I have never been a big trakker fan but when I compared the 2 of these it was a clear winner.....the tempest! Not only was the design of the tempest much better also the quality higher. I must add that one of the front rib poles on the typhoon has shown an area of stress where it has been inserted after one use..it's boxed up ready to be shipped back..
Summary is the tempest,.as most will know, is a.better shelter.
If you were.thinking about the typhoon and have owned a tempest then don't bother. If your after a quick erect shelter then there are plenty out there to choose from...maybe I was unlucky with this one......but I'm.not.so.sure 🤔
In reply to Post #1
There's a problem now with the Cyprinus stuff. The Chinese **** is nearly as expensive as the Chinese ****
I have a Cyprinus DPM compact, cracking tent for the money. The newer stuff seems to be going up and up
There's a problem now with the Cyprinus stuff. The Chinese **** is nearly as expensive as the Chinese ****
I have a Cyprinus DPM compact, cracking tent for the money. The newer stuff seems to be going up and up
In reply to Post #1
Thanks for the review, very helpful.
Thanks for the review, very helpful.
In reply to Post #1
Excellent review 👍🏻
I recently bough a tempest v2 xl and the quality of that seems excellent but i suppose time will tell. I would never of paid the original £850 asking price for it though. I got it for £480 from johnson ross.
Excellent review 👍🏻
I recently bough a tempest v2 xl and the quality of that seems excellent but i suppose time will tell. I would never of paid the original £850 asking price for it though. I got it for £480 from johnson ross.
In reply to Post #1
Great review, results as I expected and that's just from examining photos
Great review, results as I expected and that's just from examining photos
In reply to Post #2
I too had the DPM compact which was top notch for the money. It's a shame as they have something good going and it seemed like we could avoid the dreaded carp tax.....
I too had the DPM compact which was top notch for the money. It's a shame as they have something good going and it seemed like we could avoid the dreaded carp tax.....
In reply to Post #6
I am interested in hearing more people's view on this? Is the cyprinus indeed a low quality copy? Loads of YouTube video's show happy people with their kit that they have paid for themselves. Material seems thick, zips go round nice and I don't see loose/bad stitching.
I am interested in hearing more people's view on this? Is the cyprinus indeed a low quality copy? Loads of YouTube video's show happy people with their kit that they have paid for themselves. Material seems thick, zips go round nice and I don't see loose/bad stitching.
In reply to Post #7
I think the problem is that it is hit and miss. I had one of their old Base bivvies which was very good. Recently bought a Pleasuredome (think that's what it's called) for not a lot of money in an auction for my son and that too is decent quality, especially for the money. That said seen and heard plenty of examples per below and I would be reluctant to pay full asking price for any of their gear as a result of this
I think the problem is that it is hit and miss. I had one of their old Base bivvies which was very good. Recently bought a Pleasuredome (think that's what it's called) for not a lot of money in an auction for my son and that too is decent quality, especially for the money. That said seen and heard plenty of examples per below and I would be reluctant to pay full asking price for any of their gear as a result of this
In reply to Post #1
To me, half the attraction of the Tempest bivvies or brollies, is the fact that you don't need to use storm poles. They're there if you need them, but not essential. It seems from what I've read and seen, that the Cyprinus copies all sag down at the front without the use of storm poles. Major design flaw in my opinion, so I'd never even consider one.
To me, half the attraction of the Tempest bivvies or brollies, is the fact that you don't need to use storm poles. They're there if you need them, but not essential. It seems from what I've read and seen, that the Cyprinus copies all sag down at the front without the use of storm poles. Major design flaw in my opinion, so I'd never even consider one.
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I just bought the Trakker Tempest 100 Brolly Aquatexx EV 1.0 last week already tried it and am glad i bought it !
it is 500£ but it brings everything groundsheet, poles, infill panel. the material is really good and if you close all vents and door its total blackout even in the sun.
I was looking at those typhoons also but decided to pay a bit more and like i said im really really happy with it!
I just bought the Trakker Tempest 100 Brolly Aquatexx EV 1.0 last week already tried it and am glad i bought it !
it is 500£ but it brings everything groundsheet, poles, infill panel. the material is really good and if you close all vents and door its total blackout even in the sun.
I was looking at those typhoons also but decided to pay a bit more and like i said im really really happy with it!
In reply to Post #10
Thanks all, made my mind up. Going for the 100t as a short night or day shelter.
Thanks all, made my mind up. Going for the 100t as a short night or day shelter.
In reply to Post #1
I have a dpm typhoon. I used it once, didn't use it for approx 2 months and thought I'd put it up just to check it out again and practice putting it up and the material on the top is showing loads of small holes and along a seam as well.....
As I have the skull cap it's not a problem......
My advice is to avoid the ripstop dpm model like the plague.
I have a dpm typhoon. I used it once, didn't use it for approx 2 months and thought I'd put it up just to check it out again and practice putting it up and the material on the top is showing loads of small holes and along a seam as well.....
As I have the skull cap it's not a problem......
My advice is to avoid the ripstop dpm model like the plague.
In reply to Post #12
That must be so frustrating. You spend you hard earned cash to find the product is bad to say the least...
That must be so frustrating. You spend you hard earned cash to find the product is bad to say the least...
In reply to Post #6
I've still got a DPM Compact it's an absolutely cracking little bivvy. If I remember rightly it was basically just a rebranded Aqua M3 compact but at a third of the price, there were even stories of people ordering the Cyprinus and it turning up in an Aqua box.
I've still got a DPM Compact it's an absolutely cracking little bivvy. If I remember rightly it was basically just a rebranded Aqua M3 compact but at a third of the price, there were even stories of people ordering the Cyprinus and it turning up in an Aqua box.
You would of thought the quality would be near enough the same as there made in the same factory
In reply to Post #14
They weren't stories that's exactly what was happening as my M4 came in one!
They weren't stories that's exactly what was happening as my M4 came in one!
In reply to Post #14
When that was the case people were getting a good deal. Cr*p for Aqua, good for the buyer. Same goes for the rebadged F&L.
Now they are charging proper money for their ‘own' designs that clearly have quality issues.
If they were a 1/3 of the price of Trakker/Aqua it might make sense, but at the prices they are asking I think it would be safer to go for the real thing.
When that was the case people were getting a good deal. Cr*p for Aqua, good for the buyer. Same goes for the rebadged F&L.
Now they are charging proper money for their ‘own' designs that clearly have quality issues.
If they were a 1/3 of the price of Trakker/Aqua it might make sense, but at the prices they are asking I think it would be safer to go for the real thing.
In reply to Post #17
Yes, and that is sometimes 'coloring' the image of quality. But when quality (versus price) was great in the past, doesn't mean it will stay that way.
Yes, and that is sometimes 'coloring' the image of quality. But when quality (versus price) was great in the past, doesn't mean it will stay that way.
My experiences with Cyprinus have been a little different. I have a mo3 fast and light which I won on the auction for a 100 . The build quality is really good and the material is really think. This came with storms sticks and pegs. The storm sticks are a little lightweight but do the job. It has been waterproof every time I have used it. I like it as it is an ideal size for overnighters.
I also purchase a typhoon storm again on an auction for £168. I didn't really need it but had had a couple of beers and I was surprised when I won it for such a low price. The build quality on this is not as good as the brolly but is still ok. There is no zip off front but you can tie it back if required. The nylon is a thick type and it hasn't leaked and I had it out in a proper downpour. I get the front sagging a little bit to be honest the same would happen with my old tempest brolly.
It's seems the quality can be pot luck and I wouldn't pay full price for any of their kit. Have a go on the auctions or make them or make them an offer.
I also purchase a typhoon storm again on an auction for £168. I didn't really need it but had had a couple of beers and I was surprised when I won it for such a low price. The build quality on this is not as good as the brolly but is still ok. There is no zip off front but you can tie it back if required. The nylon is a thick type and it hasn't leaked and I had it out in a proper downpour. I get the front sagging a little bit to be honest the same would happen with my old tempest brolly.
It's seems the quality can be pot luck and I wouldn't pay full price for any of their kit. Have a go on the auctions or make them or make them an offer.
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