Three days ago the the vibe was we'll be able to go fishing next week.
Now my vibe meter is telling me we won't be going fishing in the next 3/4 weeks.
What's your vibe/view before king Boris tells us the score tomorrow
keeps safe
Mike
Now my vibe meter is telling me we won't be going fishing in the next 3/4 weeks.
What's your vibe/view before king Boris tells us the score tomorrow
keeps safe
Mike
No chance
Definitely not, three weeks at least I'd say.
My vibe is telling me you should have just commented on the existing, 20 page thread and not started a new one.... 
In reply to Post #4
And a good morning to you too!
And a good morning to you too!
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In reply to Post #1
We will be able to go when the Governments free money runs out and everyone is forced back to work.
Grab the egg timer.
It won't be too much longer now.
We will be able to go when the Governments free money runs out and everyone is forced back to work.
Grab the egg timer.
It won't be too much longer now.
1st June I reckon
June 16th would do me. Any earlier would be a bonus.
In reply to Post #1
Just think of it as the closed season, no biggy really, be thankful you're fit enough to go when it's allowed.
Just think of it as the closed season, no biggy really, be thankful you're fit enough to go when it's allowed.
I live a 1000 yard walk to a little pond across the fields. Is it reasonable for me to walk across there and to fish?.
I'm not going to as I'm not in a position to yet, but what would folks thoughts be?.
I'm not going to as I'm not in a position to yet, but what would folks thoughts be?.
In reply to Post #11
I think it's the unnecessary travel that's the sticking point. Not so much the fact that fishing or golf or whatever is banned.
I think it's the unnecessary travel that's the sticking point. Not so much the fact that fishing or golf or whatever is banned.
In reply to Post #12
Agree with you. The daily death toll is still (at least) 600 a day and to relax it too early would undo the hard work and sacrifices already made. If we hadn't gone into lock down, estimates reckon that the death toll could have been 250,000 whereas now it's over 30,000. Europe is starting to unlock and we will have to follow suit soon but it's a balancing act between starting to restore the economy and keeping the death rate dropping. Whatever the Government decide, closet experts will claim it's wrong. It's a judgement call I wouldn't like to make or criticize whatever is decided as they are following the best scientific advice.
Agree with you. The daily death toll is still (at least) 600 a day and to relax it too early would undo the hard work and sacrifices already made. If we hadn't gone into lock down, estimates reckon that the death toll could have been 250,000 whereas now it's over 30,000. Europe is starting to unlock and we will have to follow suit soon but it's a balancing act between starting to restore the economy and keeping the death rate dropping. Whatever the Government decide, closet experts will claim it's wrong. It's a judgement call I wouldn't like to make or criticize whatever is decided as they are following the best scientific advice.
In reply to Post #12
Agreed.
Agreed.
In reply to Post #11
im in the same situation I live 2 fields away from my syndicate and I have been walking round it as part of my exercise but its hard not being able to fish it considering how close it is.
im in the same situation I live 2 fields away from my syndicate and I have been walking round it as part of my exercise but its hard not being able to fish it considering how close it is.
In reply to Post #11
No
No
In reply to Post #1
No, let's rest the venues for a year. We could could all spend our angling time productively helping clearing drainage ditches, river and canals. Cleaning venues and improving facilities, doubt many will be up for that though.
No, let's rest the venues for a year. We could could all spend our angling time productively helping clearing drainage ditches, river and canals. Cleaning venues and improving facilities, doubt many will be up for that though.
In reply to Post #1
Not anytime soon mate.
IMHO Only when this horrible virus is under control, or someone has a proven vaccine ( months way yet ) and when people stop dying at a horrendous rate in the UK or globally, would I think about going fishing. The carp can wait.
Crikey, we cannot even test 100,000 people to see if they have it now, or the anti body test to see if they have HAD the virus.
The published figures are well under the REAL numbers. Many lives under the radar have been lost to it.
Stay at home if you can, and keep safe
Not anytime soon mate.
IMHO Only when this horrible virus is under control, or someone has a proven vaccine ( months way yet ) and when people stop dying at a horrendous rate in the UK or globally, would I think about going fishing. The carp can wait.
Crikey, we cannot even test 100,000 people to see if they have it now, or the anti body test to see if they have HAD the virus.
The published figures are well under the REAL numbers. Many lives under the radar have been lost to it.
Stay at home if you can, and keep safe
In reply to Post #1
Weds 13th May I think.
Boris knows it's time to set the Anglers free.
Weds 13th May I think.
Boris knows it's time to set the Anglers free.
Park the idea of anything of any substance coming out of tomorrow's announcement.
Absolutely no way you can justify opening garden centres and not implement phase 1 of the Angling Trusts plan.
Garden centres are all but guaranteed to open, so opening syndicates and limiting travel to x amount of miles is a lot safer than queuing to buy plants which are in no way shape or form essential.
Maybe big fisheries like linear or farlows or bluebell should be forced to stay closed unless they can limit swims, but small syndicates with limited travel? Very low risk compared to garden centres.
I have no issue if they keep the lockdown, but if they do it has to stand as it is now or be stricter. ANY relaxation and fishing must be relaxed too.
Garden centres are all but guaranteed to open, so opening syndicates and limiting travel to x amount of miles is a lot safer than queuing to buy plants which are in no way shape or form essential.
Maybe big fisheries like linear or farlows or bluebell should be forced to stay closed unless they can limit swims, but small syndicates with limited travel? Very low risk compared to garden centres.
I have no issue if they keep the lockdown, but if they do it has to stand as it is now or be stricter. ANY relaxation and fishing must be relaxed too.
In reply to Post #21
agree garden centres are not essential but neither is fishing
agree garden centres are not essential but neither is fishing
In reply to Post #21
The problem with limiting travel can potentially create further risk within the boundaries of the water itself though. For example, I can travel 90 miles to my syndicate water (30members) which at most ever sees half a dozen people on 25 acres. I've paid for that privilege .
However, if travel is restricted, I only really have two other options, join one of two local clubs. For example one is Ringwood, 10 miles travel... Too a series of very busy venues with a club of over 2,000 members where social Distancing is a lot lot more difficult.
Which is safer (excluding the potential for breakdown, accident, etc)?
The problem with limiting travel can potentially create further risk within the boundaries of the water itself though. For example, I can travel 90 miles to my syndicate water (30members) which at most ever sees half a dozen people on 25 acres. I've paid for that privilege .
However, if travel is restricted, I only really have two other options, join one of two local clubs. For example one is Ringwood, 10 miles travel... Too a series of very busy venues with a club of over 2,000 members where social Distancing is a lot lot more difficult.
Which is safer (excluding the potential for breakdown, accident, etc)?
In reply to Post #22
Thousands of jobs depend on garden centres as outlets for the growers plus all the staff the centres themselves employ. Many centres also sell fruit and veg from the growers who have lost vast income as this is there peak season.
I'd bet jobs this industry out number those in carp and course fisheries by several hundred to one.
Thousands of jobs depend on garden centres as outlets for the growers plus all the staff the centres themselves employ. Many centres also sell fruit and veg from the growers who have lost vast income as this is there peak season.
I'd bet jobs this industry out number those in carp and course fisheries by several hundred to one.
In reply to Post #24
Spot on mate👍🏻
Spot on mate👍🏻
In reply to Post #13
Just a quick point - the daily deaths haven't been above 300 since 30th April (pending any delayed reported deaths for whatever reason).
I think the figure you are referring to is deaths reported on each day which is very different to the ‘daily death toll'.
For what it's worth, in theory, I would support some loosening of the current situation provided the general public can be sensible and responsible- unfortunately I'm not sure I have faith that the population generally can though.
I think the only change for me would be to go fishing (but I'm lucky to have two syndicates with low number of members and can almost guarantee I would be able to distance). Given that my closest outdoor area is Clapham Common - and having no desire to join the masses there it would be nice to see some greenery after 7 weeks.
Other than that nothing else would really change for me. Weekly shop, work from home, exercise at home etc etc.
One other view that a mate has is that people who will take the piss are doing so already, it will enable those who are being responsible a little more leeway to do a few more things (responsibly) with likely minimal excess risk.
Just a quick point - the daily deaths haven't been above 300 since 30th April (pending any delayed reported deaths for whatever reason).
I think the figure you are referring to is deaths reported on each day which is very different to the ‘daily death toll'.
For what it's worth, in theory, I would support some loosening of the current situation provided the general public can be sensible and responsible- unfortunately I'm not sure I have faith that the population generally can though.
I think the only change for me would be to go fishing (but I'm lucky to have two syndicates with low number of members and can almost guarantee I would be able to distance). Given that my closest outdoor area is Clapham Common - and having no desire to join the masses there it would be nice to see some greenery after 7 weeks.
Other than that nothing else would really change for me. Weekly shop, work from home, exercise at home etc etc.
One other view that a mate has is that people who will take the piss are doing so already, it will enable those who are being responsible a little more leeway to do a few more things (responsibly) with likely minimal excess risk.
One thing I didn't know until I read the news this morning is that from Monday wales can exercise as much as they want. Does that mean they can go fishing?
In reply to Post #27
They wont have been told anything about fishing that will be left to the angling trust who I expect already know but wont release a statement till after boris has addressed the nation.Mind you there a certain fishery in west Sussex who must be an mp and know something as in his words"its looking positive for open for business as usual from 9 am Monday" and taking bookings what a bell end
They wont have been told anything about fishing that will be left to the angling trust who I expect already know but wont release a statement till after boris has addressed the nation.Mind you there a certain fishery in west Sussex who must be an mp and know something as in his words"its looking positive for open for business as usual from 9 am Monday" and taking bookings what a bell end
In reply to Post #1
I think the Angling Trust shouldn't have been asking people to sign a petition to get us angling quicker. It's no different to the closed season, and this break would have helped fish and fauna. A lot of places would have seen their fish spawn hassle free without the stress of capture prior or post spawning.
Plus, it means it's an additional (at least) three weeks where tens of thousands of anglers are NOT popping into the corner shop for cigarettes, the co-op for for milk, tea bags and the supermarkets for food. We need to think of the health of others and not our own "needs". For the first time since the mid nineties, we're just going to have to swallow the break in festivities.
I think the Angling Trust shouldn't have been asking people to sign a petition to get us angling quicker. It's no different to the closed season, and this break would have helped fish and fauna. A lot of places would have seen their fish spawn hassle free without the stress of capture prior or post spawning.
Plus, it means it's an additional (at least) three weeks where tens of thousands of anglers are NOT popping into the corner shop for cigarettes, the co-op for for milk, tea bags and the supermarkets for food. We need to think of the health of others and not our own "needs". For the first time since the mid nineties, we're just going to have to swallow the break in festivities.
In reply to Post #29
It's not just about getting us fishing it's also about the fisheries weather it be right or wrong they must have had pressure from both sides
It's not just about getting us fishing it's also about the fisheries weather it be right or wrong they must have had pressure from both sides
In reply to Post #30
Same as garden centres opening. Not essential and they're going to be heaving, but it's a massive industry that is going to be struggling if they're not allowed to start selling all the billions of plants that have been growing over winter and early spring. It's a hell of a decision the government has got to make, whatever Boris says to he's going to get flack.
Same as garden centres opening. Not essential and they're going to be heaving, but it's a massive industry that is going to be struggling if they're not allowed to start selling all the billions of plants that have been growing over winter and early spring. It's a hell of a decision the government has got to make, whatever Boris says to he's going to get flack.
In reply to Post #30
Wasn't it the non essential travel and stay home message that was the main reason for lakes closing originally? If that is eased then it may be down to lake owners and anglers as to wether or not they go/open. Angling was never really highlighted at the start when we first locked down...
Wasn't it the non essential travel and stay home message that was the main reason for lakes closing originally? If that is eased then it may be down to lake owners and anglers as to wether or not they go/open. Angling was never really highlighted at the start when we first locked down...
In reply to Post #32
That's my take on it too, it's either no travel or all travel
That's my take on it too, it's either no travel or all travel
In reply to Post #31
Totally agree
Totally agree
In reply to Post #22
No garden centres aren't essential but they've made it quite clear if they hang on much longer there won't be a garden centre. The financial problem of loosing to many plants will cripple most garden centres
No garden centres aren't essential but they've made it quite clear if they hang on much longer there won't be a garden centre. The financial problem of loosing to many plants will cripple most garden centres
In reply to Post #32
Was told my cousin who is a head bailiff and also by another bailiff that among the obvious another reason they wont open and will follow trend with other fisheries is that they will get slated on social media
Was told my cousin who is a head bailiff and also by another bailiff that among the obvious another reason they wont open and will follow trend with other fisheries is that they will get slated on social media
In reply to Post #32
It was never going to be highlighted and neither should it need to be. The message was quite clear
It was never going to be highlighted and neither should it need to be. The message was quite clear
In reply to Post #37
So is the message of unlimited exercise clear? What does that even mean hardly anyone exercises more than once a day. If they scrap the stay home message to “stay alert” what does that mean? Can we go out or not!
So is the message of unlimited exercise clear? What does that even mean hardly anyone exercises more than once a day. If they scrap the stay home message to “stay alert” what does that mean? Can we go out or not!
In reply to Post #38
That's gonna be the wasps nest some people will see it as an excuse to stay out all day
That's gonna be the wasps nest some people will see it as an excuse to stay out all day
In reply to Post #1
ive said all along...we wont be able to fish until mid june at the earliest
mind you, there are loads of people fishing at the moment...
ive said all along...we wont be able to fish until mid june at the earliest
mind you, there are loads of people fishing at the moment...
In reply to Post #40
People are fishing everywhere, I see them every week on my journey up to London along the M3. I also know there were people fishing off the coast near bognor yesterday because I saw the photographs taken by a friend who lives there.
People are fishing everywhere, I see them every week on my journey up to London along the M3. I also know there were people fishing off the coast near bognor yesterday because I saw the photographs taken by a friend who lives there.
In reply to Post #40
They are not fishing though Joss, they are 'bailiffing'
They are not fishing though Joss, they are 'bailiffing'
People are currently fishing because they are either just ****s or feel a higher level of self importance. The resources aren't there to police it. Same reason they're tugging cars out in the sticks but I'm stood here watching a constant flow of heavy traffic including groups of mates in 1 car and people so obviously out selling drugs going unchallenged.
All these threads are evidence that they couldn't previously allow a mass return to angling normality because so many variables exist, travel times and distances etc.
All these threads are evidence that they couldn't previously allow a mass return to angling normality because so many variables exist, travel times and distances etc.
Out of interest I wonder how many anglers there actually are that are furloughed who would be expected to descend on lakes once they open. I've a feeling it may not actually be that many as many key workers/builders (some are working) or elderly people self isolating wouldn't really be able to take advantage of a relax in the rules.
In reply to Post #43
Unfortunately we will be in lockdown longer because of these selfish people who can't keep themselves in lockdown for the sake of everyone else.
I despair at the people round my area. Only yesterday I took the dog for a walk to see twenty odd people in close proximity sunbathing and playing games on my local common.
Unfortunately we will be in lockdown longer because of these selfish people who can't keep themselves in lockdown for the sake of everyone else.
I despair at the people round my area. Only yesterday I took the dog for a walk to see twenty odd people in close proximity sunbathing and playing games on my local common.
In reply to Post #45
It's a joke. A friend living near Eastbourne beach told me the police kept kicking them off yesterday but they just kept coming. In the end the police gave up
It's a joke. A friend living near Eastbourne beach told me the police kept kicking them off yesterday but they just kept coming. In the end the police gave up
In reply to Post #42
yes, funny how until now, they no doubt have had little or NO interest in baillifing isn't it
yes, funny how until now, they no doubt have had little or NO interest in baillifing isn't it
In reply to Post #46
Why don't they hand out fines to these imbeciles?
Why don't they hand out fines to these imbeciles?
In reply to Post #48
My thoughts exactly but it seems they just couldn't keep up. £100 fine would soon sort that out
My thoughts exactly but it seems they just couldn't keep up. £100 fine would soon sort that out
In reply to Post #49
On my journey out of London this afternoon, I saw a pub open in twickers and the usual fishing taking place along the M3. Standard practice tbh every weekend atm.
On my journey out of London this afternoon, I saw a pub open in twickers and the usual fishing taking place along the M3. Standard practice tbh every weekend atm.
In reply to Post #50
let someone know fella - the licensee / owner should be losing their licence if they're open. Taking the p*ss
let someone know fella - the licensee / owner should be losing their licence if they're open. Taking the p*ss
In reply to Post #50
Clapham common was f*cking heaving with people early this afternoon.
Loads of police chatting around the snack wagon by the pond in the morning getting breakfast.
Clapham common was f*cking heaving with people early this afternoon.
Loads of police chatting around the snack wagon by the pond in the morning getting breakfast.
I live at the arse end of the world.
Bad news is that I've always had to travel a fair distance for my carp fishing, opting to do a few days each time rather than weekly trips to get my fix.
Good news is that I live in a lovely area which is in a protected National Park area with lots of SSSI's.
Strange thing is that due to being rural we have not been greatly affected byCovid 19. However, the small towns and villages are deserted and the roads are empty.
So I look on with great disbelief as people in built up areas and big cities like London and Birmingham seeming hell bent in breaking social distancing. I accept if your on a big estate or in a high rise with kids it's difficult, but is everyone blinkered to the dangers?
I reiterate...I'm extremely lucky and I know it, but some of the things we are seeing in large parks and beach's are scary.
Bad news is that I've always had to travel a fair distance for my carp fishing, opting to do a few days each time rather than weekly trips to get my fix.
Good news is that I live in a lovely area which is in a protected National Park area with lots of SSSI's.
Strange thing is that due to being rural we have not been greatly affected byCovid 19. However, the small towns and villages are deserted and the roads are empty.
So I look on with great disbelief as people in built up areas and big cities like London and Birmingham seeming hell bent in breaking social distancing. I accept if your on a big estate or in a high rise with kids it's difficult, but is everyone blinkered to the dangers?
I reiterate...I'm extremely lucky and I know it, but some of the things we are seeing in large parks and beach's are scary.
Lakes rammed from Wednesday then!
In reply to Post #54
Seems like it
Seems like it
In reply to Post #55
Going to be carnage for the next few weeks.
Going to be carnage for the next few weeks.
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