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Trakker tempest advanced (88 posts / 18,004 views)
patrickc patrickc
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Post #1 25 Mar 2019 18:47
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Did anyone have a good look at one of these at the show and if so what are your thoughts, I mainly fish short sessions and have been thinking about getting the brolly for a while but it's trying to get a look at one in the flesh in the southwest.
Don't want to just order one because of the negative comments on here about it being on the low side but liked the idea of the vents on the new advanced.
duggs
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Post #2 25 Mar 2019 18:58
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It's essentially an aquatexx v2 brolly with vents all round, they looked identical size wise.
I bought the brolly, but it does look cheap compared to the advanced.
Cazfish Cazfish
Posts: 1,200
Post #3 25 Mar 2019 19:03
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I did , seemed very low. I'd be worried about the 4 vents as well , trakkers previous record for quality for just 2 vents isn't great
patrickc patrickc
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Post #4 25 Mar 2019 19:06
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I was kind of hoping that they had learned their lesson and changed the material for the mesh.
Riggy Riggy
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Post #5 25 Mar 2019 19:25
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Not sure if there is a height difference between the advanced and the V1 brolly, I am 6.2” and using a ‘bedchair buddy' am able to fish comfortably on short/overnight sessions without the old bald head scraping the underside of the top. Having said that best to satisfy yourself by looking at one in the flesh (hopefully with a bedchair under it).

Michael
Stoneycarp Stoneycarp
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Post #6 25 Mar 2019 19:29
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What surprised me is its 12.6kg with everything opposed to the full bivvy which is 10.5kg.


I ordered one for 460 with skull cap but when I found that out I just went for the full bivvy as 2 vents is plenty for me
patrickc patrickc
Posts: 769
Post #7 25 Mar 2019 19:59
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That's a lot of weight for something that is smaller than the bivvy, but a good price with the scull cap included.
scoobydan_84
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Post #8 25 Mar 2019 20:44
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I had a good look at it at the show and yes it looks very low. I'm 6'3 and was supprised at the head room i had while sat inside, although the door is quite low when getting out. The vent mesh looks to be better quality aswell.
Still not convinced on getting rid of my fast and light for one but will wait until the are some tried and tested reviews.
philthefish44 philthefish44
Posts: 773
Post #9 25 Mar 2019 20:50
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Have to agree with you on this one feller.

That is much to heavy for a brolly and the four vents is just over kill. I bet there is a lot of added extra weight just in the vents.

It's supposed to be a brolly. It's now more like a small bivvy system.

I think the designers got a bit muddled with this one.
I am still using the Mk 1 and love it. Three pegs and I'm fishing.
Stoneycarp Stoneycarp
Posts: 527
Post #10 25 Mar 2019 21:19
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I thought I'd get one as I wanted rear vents for summer so sold my v2 brolly and was looking yesterday and thought I might as well get the bivvy as little bit more space and plenty of head room. I do like the advanced but the vents are a bit of gimmick and I didn't like the extra weight as I'm trying to save it rather than gain it

Hull angling 465 for the advanced with skull cap

England angling 485

Didn't try Eric's
Carpychronicles
Posts: 8
Post #11 3 Mar 2020 16:57
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CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #12 3 Mar 2020 17:23
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Is there a wrap for it or does the v2 wrap fit
yonny yonny
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Post #13 4 Mar 2020 11:08
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I think the designers got a bit muddled with this one.

Nah, it's the consumers getting confused in this case imo.

much to heavy for a brolly and the four vents is just over kill.

For those that want a light brolly (like you and me) we have the Tempest Brolly. For those that want to sacrifice some of that weight for bells and whistles you have the Advanced.

It's all about what the users priorities are. There are now options to suit all of us.

People are complaining about the weight, but its definitely worth it.

@Carpychronicles. You mean it's definitely worth it to you. To others it's not.

Between the Tempest Brolly, Advanced, Bivvy, 100T, 150, 200 etc etc we now have an option for literally everyone. Add to those all the gubbins (skull caps, wraps, utility fronts) and the options are many. You can bodge almost anything out of them from overnight brolly to long session palace.
Carpychronicles
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Post #14 4 Mar 2020 15:52
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AmylNitrate
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Post #15 4 Mar 2020 16:01
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I got my brolly advanced today. Did my homework on them before and glad I got it.
I'm not tall, so suits me for what I need.
How can people moan about a bit more weight, hardly a big % in relation to everything else we take
yonny yonny
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Post #16 4 Mar 2020 16:32
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You're wrong mate, and your statement is very narrow minded imo.
I literally just bought a TB last week - not the Advanced, not the 100T, not the bloody vents and skull caps and god knows what else. Just the bog standard TB - because it's the lightest version.
The vents make zero sense to me. Why would I want to add weight just to have big holes in my brolly? I don't spend hardly any time in it, I just sleep under it and shelter from rain. The vents offer me zero benefit. I am not one of these guys that spends their day cooped up under a shelter watching an ipad.
BUT - I can completely understand that others do spend time sitting under it, which is fine. The vents make perfect sense to those guys. They add comfort value.
We all have different priorities and the choice is there for all of us. Best for me isn't best for the next man. To say the version you like "outshines" the version that suits others is just ignorant imo. Better or worse depends completely on the priorities of the angler/user.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #17 4 Mar 2020 17:00
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On the money right there Ian......something for everyone......
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,243
Post #18 4 Mar 2020 19:10
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I'm ready to buy a new shelter now, I'm leaning towards the advanced. Cheapest I can get for is 399 delivered. Anyone else beat that? Thanks in advance
g4fne g4fne
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Post #19 4 Mar 2020 19:23
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There are a few worrying reviews on Facebook with regards the material of these Tempest - water seems to be soaking in and not repelling .... People are having to Fabsil from new ... I personally think the Tempest Brolly is the best of the lot ... Rest of the range seems overkill/over engineered to me with no gain over a 2 rib peaked pramhood.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #20 4 Mar 2020 19:32
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The advanced is aquatexx, exact same material as the aqua range,is that what you are referring to
g4fne g4fne
Posts: 15,110
Post #21 4 Mar 2020 19:36
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Tempest advanced 100 is the latest ..... Others have commented they have had same problem but dont state which models

**not mine ... photo taken from FB **

CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,243
Post #22 4 Mar 2020 19:39
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That's strange I dint think the aqua products have ever had that issue
devon157
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Post #23 4 Mar 2020 19:41
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Where abouts did you get the price for that mate.
410 is the cheapest iv found so far.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #24 4 Mar 2020 19:42
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Parkfield angling
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #25 4 Mar 2020 19:43
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No it's not,aqua use a different aquatexx
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #26 4 Mar 2020 19:44
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Are you sure? They are owned by the same company
devon157
Posts: 1,144
Post #27 4 Mar 2020 19:45
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Really ? I was getting quoted 420 off them.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #28 4 Mar 2020 19:46
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I buy a few things from them so that's probably why
devon157
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Post #29 4 Mar 2020 19:46
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CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #30 4 Mar 2020 19:47
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I'm put off by that picture now tho
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #31 4 Mar 2020 20:00
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The aqua bivvies use a higher grade.It's is thicker and different colour
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #32 4 Mar 2020 20:02
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That's disappointing
Swainy123 Swainy123
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Post #33 4 Mar 2020 20:03
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I'm sure I only paid £450 with the skull cap when they was 1st released. I bought mine from England angling
devon157
Posts: 1,144
Post #34 4 Mar 2020 20:25
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I wonder what material is used on the TYPHOON, is it the same as the aqua or the advanced tempest ?
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #35 4 Mar 2020 20:38
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Might just get the standard tempest v2
g4fne g4fne
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Post #36 4 Mar 2020 21:12
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As I understand it ....

Tempest Aquatexx is 10,000mm HH
Aqua Aquatexx is 20,000mm HH
Typhoon is 20,000mm HH
Quest Green version is 10,000mm HH (same as Trakker?)
Quest DPM version is 20,000mm HH

In my experience a good quality nylon rivals 10,000 modern Aquatexx for fraction of cost .... Its only when you get to the earlier thicker Aquatexx material or latter 20,000mm rated Aquatexx that the quality will start to stand out and extra cost worthwhile
philthefish44 philthefish44
Posts: 773
Post #37 4 Mar 2020 22:39
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IMHO Aquatexx is highly overated and I have had a fair few bivvies made of the stuff.
Takes an age to dry and is rather heavy. Also needs to be reproofed quite regularly if used a lot to keep its beading properties.

Had a V1 tempest with nylon for the last five years. and it's done its job wonderfully. Never had to reproof it and it's had some foul British weather thrown at it.

g4fne g4fne
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Post #38 4 Mar 2020 23:00
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.... and not really necessary for the average angler ... especially if using a wrap/skull cap. Though i still love my early Aqua MK2 Armo (thick Aquatexx) and would never part with it, i rarely use it nowadays, preferring my nylon Cayman and nylon Tempest brolly .... both been excellent
dazwacky dazwacky
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Post #39 5 Mar 2020 07:03
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My V2 Air wrap fits my Advanced, must admit had no issues with either and only reason I bought the Advanced for was to keep the dog in I actually like the option of the 4 vents but each to there own.
yonny yonny
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Post #40 5 Mar 2020 09:09
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IMHO Aquatexx is highly overated and I have had a fair few bivvies made of the stuff.

Likewise mate.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #41 5 Mar 2020 09:24
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im ordering a standard v2 today and infil panel, 239 delivered . seems reasonable
bushman bushman
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Post #42 5 Mar 2020 09:57
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My Tempest brolly advanced 100 was delivered yesterday. I was shocked how bulky and heavy it was compared to my old Mk1 brolly. Got rid of it already and bought a Brolly V2 instead as the nylon is much lighter. Jusy need to send it off to Army Andy for 2 rear vents now.
philthefish44 philthefish44
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Post #43 5 Mar 2020 10:04
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You won't be disappointed mate. My V1 has been brilliant apart from the low height.

I have had it for about five years now and it's seen some serious weather on big wind swept pits.

Its on its last legs now but I am hanging on to it till it dies on me. I'm tight like that LOL.
I will probably replace with either a hide XL or 100 T.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #44 5 Mar 2020 10:21
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Negotiated a final price of 235 .. being delivered tomorrow. love them boys at Parkfield.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #45 5 Mar 2020 10:22
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thanks for all the in depth analysis, think ive saved myself 170 odd quid
Carpychronicles
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Post #46 5 Mar 2020 12:54
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Carpychronicles
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Post #47 5 Mar 2020 13:10
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g4fne g4fne
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Post #48 5 Mar 2020 14:06
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People saying they prefer 210D polyester over aquatexx either haven't used the aquatexx or are straight biased.

I have bivvies in both materials, Aquatexx owned since circa 2004 ... no bias from me. ..... Aquatexx in its 20,000mm HH thicker guise is a good material when sold at nearer nylon prices (Cyprinus, Quest etc) but never as good as some are making out. If it was, then the leisure tent manufacturers would of been using Aquatexx by now
yonny yonny
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Post #49 5 Mar 2020 14:34
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People saying they prefer 210D polyester over aquatexx either haven't used the aquatexx or are straight biased.

There you go again with your single minded approach. You assume too much based on your own taste/requirements buddy.
I actually bought a Tempest Air three weeks ago off a chap on here and ditched it after the first session to buy the standard TB lol.
I've had several Aquatex shelters over the years. They were great when I was bait&wait campaign fishing but no good for my mobile approach. Complete overkill (for me).

Everyone has a right to their own opinions

So why can't you accept it when others state a different option is better for them personally?? We've acknowledged you prefer the Advanced. Fair play. A bunch of guys on this thread prefer the standard TB. Deal with it, you have no right to say they are wrong.

Enjoy being cooked up in the summer when you spend more than 5 minutes in the brolly, or even waking up to an bright sun to feel like you're in a Sauna.

Eh? My brolly is normally packed away by the time the sun comes up mate. Different type of angling to what you must do
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #50 5 Mar 2020 15:41
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'Not to mention if the outside of the material is wet and you touch it from inside the water seaps through'

so its not waterproof ..cant be right
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #51 5 Mar 2020 15:45
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My v2 brolly was waterproof and certainly did not suffer with that problem.Its probably just condensation on the inside because had door closed well its pissed down for hours
midlandman midlandman
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Post #52 5 Mar 2020 18:47
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Spot on Yonny.

The tempest brolly is the best shelter on the market at the moment for me. Lightweight, not bulky, up and down in a minute. Very stable.

Who needs vents? It has got a massive vent at the front, it's called a door.

I have never noticed the condensation either, but then I'm looking for carp, and trying to catch the damn things, rather than studying my tent.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #53 5 Mar 2020 19:05
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I had a supa mk2 before so my expectations are low. Although lots of condensation, never seemed to drip on me. At least with v2 you have overwrap and skullcap that should help.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #54 5 Mar 2020 19:13
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Just to add what size quick sticks best for the infill panel?
dazwacky dazwacky
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Post #55 5 Mar 2020 19:28
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Are the quicksticks not supplied with the Brolly? as both my V2 air and advanced have them 48 inch I think?
yonny yonny
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Post #56 5 Mar 2020 19:31
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In reply to Post #52
Exactly bud👍
Tbh I only bought the Air and then the TB for a specific water I'm fishing. A very open reservoir on which those big winds we had recently were just too much for my poor little Lo Pro. It just about survived, but its not the one on this water. The Air was nice but weighed a ton compared to the Lo Pro. The TB is spot on for it. Strong but light.
I'll still use the Lo Pro elsewhere but the TB is absolutely perfect for this res.
yonny yonny
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Post #57 5 Mar 2020 19:33
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No mate. I had to nick the poles off my Air for my TB.
Carpychronicles
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Post #58 5 Mar 2020 19:47
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yonny yonny
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Post #59 5 Mar 2020 20:05
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If you save 2 kg on the shelter, 2 kg ditching stainless, 6 kg on a lightweight bedchair/bag, etc etc... it makes a difference.

I am struggling to comprehend your mindset. I am not saying your Advanced is bad. I am saying it is not good for everyone. But you continue to argue it thinking your priorities are more important than everyone else's. It's just arrogance mate.

What the difficulty of the water you fish has to do with this I have no idea. You're not the only one fishing tricky waters.

Edit: if the nearest fish could be 10 miles way surely you should be taking the lightweight mobile approach looking for them rather than sitting under your brolly enjoying the airflow. Might explain the blanks?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #60 5 Mar 2020 20:05
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Talking of quick sticks, have they improved them since the v2 bivvy days? The ones I have the threads are as soft as you like and you have to be really careful with them, already had one new set of bolts off Trakker
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #61 5 Mar 2020 20:11
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Unneeded arrogance, its carp fishing for christ sake. I'd rather spend time with my family but I I like getting away from things every now and then.
yonny yonny
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Post #62 5 Mar 2020 20:12
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Dunno mate. My air was 2nd hand so not new but they seem ok?
Carpychronicles
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Post #63 5 Mar 2020 20:25
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ip100 ip100
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Post #64 5 Mar 2020 20:35
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Your posting style seems somewhat familiar.....
yonny yonny
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Post #65 5 Mar 2020 20:42
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I said the Advanced was overkill for me. Not for others. Read the thread back and and you might understand my point. Probably not though.

I cant be bothered to get into a slanging match with someone too thick to understand the point of the debate. I was trying to explain to you that your needs don't necessarily reflect those of others. Laters x
yonny yonny
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Post #66 5 Mar 2020 20:42
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Not just me then lol.
ip100 ip100
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Post #67 5 Mar 2020 20:45
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Definitely not mate
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,243
Post #68 5 Mar 2020 20:52
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Yes 5 posts is odd. Has he been banned before . Everyone is entitled to their opinion but its borderline arrogance which I cant deal with in carp fishing. Its carp fishing.
midlandman midlandman
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Post #69 5 Mar 2020 21:22
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Chill man!

Save your attitude for the tank testing debate. You would fit in well on there.
yonny yonny
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Post #70 5 Mar 2020 22:43
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Poor lad deleted all his posts after I gave him a follow on instagram. His feed is full of doubles from brooms cross and hurlston hall match lakes with hundreds of hashtags.
I feel bad now. I was only trying to explain that we all have different priorities. If the lad reads this, no hard feelings
midlandman midlandman
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Post #71 5 Mar 2020 22:56
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Nor from me. I found him entertaining and miss him already!
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #72 5 Mar 2020 23:00
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Bully
Jon99 Jon99
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Post #73 6 Mar 2020 04:10
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I recently bought the Advanced 100 bivvy after having owned the V1 brolly for a while. Fancied something a bit bigger with a front on. First impressions I was surprised how heavy it was compared to the brolly and debated taking it back straight away. In the end I decided to give it a chance though so will see how I get on!
devon157
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Post #74 6 Mar 2020 07:53
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Well iv orderd my advanced brolly this morning, hope I won't be disappointed?.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #75 6 Mar 2020 11:14
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good luck with it did parkfield sort you out
devon157
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Post #76 6 Mar 2020 11:21
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Got it from England angling in the end for £410.
Drakenjager Drakenjager
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Post #77 6 Mar 2020 18:47
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I'm totally happy with my Brolly V2, changed over after 16(!) years using the Fox Evolution.
It suits my fishing style perfect, most of the time doing short overnighters.
Enough headroom, lightweight and no need for back vents.

There is one thing that strikes me:
The Brolly Advanced is around 480 pound.
The 100 Advanced is 699, the 150 Advanced is 799.
Why is there such a big price difference?
Of course the 100 and 150 are bigger, but the price gap is even bigger.

Compared to the Armo V4 series the Tempest Advanced are expensive.(Armo v4 1 man 419, 2 man 449 and 2 Plus 515 pound)
I understand that maybe with the block mechanisme etc, production could mor expensive.
But both use Aquatex.

So the bigger Tempest Advanced Models are really expensive.
And the prices in Holland are even higher for the Advanced Models, ,more than 50 euro
The price for the TB en TB100 are at AD the same as at mij local Dutch shop.

Marketing?

P.s. Hope my English grammar is ok :-)
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #78 6 Mar 2020 20:51
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grammar is perfect
Pizza Pizza
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Post #79 7 Mar 2020 09:51
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yonny, did you notice that much difference between the Air and the TB? According to Trakker the Air 2 is 6kgs without pegs and groundsheet and the TB v2 is 5kgs. I appreicate 1kg is still a lot of titanium pent pegs! Just wondering if I'm missing a trick here.
yonny yonny
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Post #80 7 Mar 2020 10:03
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It was the v1 I had mate and yes it felt like a big difference. Admittedly I had the ground sheet in the bag which wouldnt have helped lol.
Pizza Pizza
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Post #81 7 Mar 2020 10:05
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devon157
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Post #82 11 Mar 2020 10:08
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Recieved my advanced brolly for yesterday, I must say im well impressed with it
TAILS TAILS
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Post #83 12 Mar 2020 13:39
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Bought one but had to sell it as way to small / low for my indulgence bed. My head was against ceiling and im only 5ft8. With door zipped in I couldn't watch water unless laying down. Shame as imo quality bit of kit.
Carpychronicles
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Post #84 4 Feb 2021 19:13
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Ive just stumbled across this post post. My last fish post on brooms cross was over 2 years ago and 90% of the fish pics from there are 20-35lb Mark, you either need glasses mate or need to catch a few fish yourself to familiarise yourself with fish sizes.

Poor Fella.
yonny yonny
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Post #85 4 Feb 2021 20:49
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Hello again. Like I said, no hard feelings 👍
What happened to all your posts mate?
Leigh83
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Post #86 6 Feb 2021 22:41
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Rich_Carpp
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Post #87 12 Mar 2021 23:05
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Thought I would post on here rather than starting a new thread,

Is there anyway to find out when angling direct will get a restock? Looking at buying a Tempest brolly 100T but the brolly and all components are out of stock..
bluebeat13
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Post #88 13 Mar 2021 00:33
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Maybe call Angling Direct and ask them?
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