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Bulin T4 playing up (51 posts / 8,038 views)
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #1 21 Sep 2017 20:38
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My T4 has started acting odd. Unless I have the gas really low it sort of blows itself out, like it's all air and hardly any gas coming through, anyone else had this happen with a gas stove?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #2 21 Sep 2017 20:52
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In reply to Post #1
Obvious question I know but have you tried cleaning it? Maybe it's a blocked injector? Also have you tried a different gas bottle?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #3 21 Sep 2017 21:05
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In reply to Post #2
I've tried different bottles that didn't make any difference and not sure how to clean it to be honest.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #4 21 Sep 2017 22:20
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In reply to Post #3
If I get five mins over the weekend I will take a look at mine and post up some instructions
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #5 22 Sep 2017 08:58
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Thanks. I'm actually on the bank at the mo but with the aid of some crimping pliers, a spoon and a hook sharpening file I seem to have got it going again. Managed to fathom out how to dismantle it and I found the tiny metal filter on the back of the jet was covered in carbon. Filed it all off and it seems a lot better now.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #6 22 Sep 2017 12:19
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In reply to Post #5
Refered to as jungle running repair I think.
carra carra
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Post #7 22 Sep 2017 14:09
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In reply to Post #5
i hope you took some pictures and have done an instructional 'how to'guide
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #8 22 Sep 2017 15:02
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That's like an episode of the A Team. Do you build rocket launchers out assorted bits of tackle as well?
Zack
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Post #9 22 Sep 2017 15:43
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Macgyver would have been proud of you.....but there again he would have just needed his Swiss army knife.
Keebs
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Post #10 23 Sep 2017 16:06
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In reply to Post #9
He's a roadie - that's what we do - get the job done with whatever's available
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #11 23 Sep 2017 16:06
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If anyone else ever has one pack in give me a shout

I have also bought another T4 as a spare off Amazon seeing as they are now only about £23, don't want to get caught out like that again especially in the colder months. Even if I could give the A-Team and Bear Grylls a run for their money!

There seems to be quite a few with other companies logos on like this THIS one. All just doing what Trakker have done but for cheaper rather than 3 x the price
Keebs
Posts: 3,201
Post #12 23 Sep 2017 16:12
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In reply to Post #11
That £11 one in your link is what I use - got it from Go Outdoors.

Never had a single issue with it in, I reckon, 6 years use.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #13 23 Sep 2017 16:35
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In reply to Post #10
Show must go on and all that
hawkmanjohn hawkmanjohn
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Post #14 15 Sep 2018 09:55
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Hi Chuffy

Just had to do an on the bank repair myself. Thanks to your information I have fixed it. In fact it's working better .
Just like to say a big thanks, I was on the verge of having to go off the the lake to buy a replacement.
Thanks again
John
roman
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Post #15 15 Sep 2018 10:11
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In reply to Post #14
Where abouts on the stove are you dismantling these and cleaning. Thought mine was a bit slow last week?
H00kpul
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Post #16 15 Sep 2018 10:49
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All gas stoves need cleaning, they have always got a filter on to stop bits going through.
I used to clean my old one every winter if I didn't the flame got weaker and weaker.
At first I thought it was the cold affecting the gas.
I spray mine with penetrating fluid, WD40 etc then blow through it and give it a scrub.
christian
Posts: 1,377
Post #17 15 Sep 2018 13:56
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Glad this post came up, my bulin has been playing up gradually losing power over the last few months with me needing to tip the gas canister over far earlier than it used to.
So spurned on by comments on here I have just taken it to bits and found a sooted up filter right under the tiny hole the gas comes out from. Have scratched all the soot off and put it back together it works so much better....well worth the 15 minutes it took to do it.
Thanks all
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #18 16 Sep 2018 02:36
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In reply to Post #14
slipd slipd
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Post #19 16 Sep 2018 08:09
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In reply to Post #18
Subscribed. - for future reference.

I've sold T4's to almost everyone I fish with and this is bound to come up some or later, so noted.

Thanks.
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #20 15 Sep 2019 21:13
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Brilliant...

Just sold my Primus gravity and bought a new T4 two weeks ago after following recommendations on here. Nobody mentioned having problems with them or performance dropping off after a while at all. Last week they were the best thing since sliced bread and this week they can be iffy sometimes.

Luckily I'm handy with a screwdriver so armed with this info I can head it off at the pass or keep the Swiss Army knife handy on the bank. Cheers to the OP and others for the heads up.

Still I suppose at £22 posted they aren't that far off being a disposable item for non screwdriver inclined people.
bertybath bertybath
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Post #21 15 Sep 2019 23:40
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In reply to Post #20
mines playing up a bit after a year of use - how do you get the top of the stove off to get to the jet to clean ?
Boycie Boycie
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Post #22 16 Sep 2019 06:09
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In reply to Post #20
I've had mine fir nearly 5 years and it's working as well as the day I bought it so I wouldn't worry too much.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #23 16 Sep 2019 08:09
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In reply to Post #20
To be fair, mine only started to play up some time after I accidentally poured water all over it, well that certainly didn't help
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #24 16 Sep 2019 08:12
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In reply to Post #21
Undo the nut underneath then use your Meccano skills from then on
SUNNYMEAD SUNNYMEAD
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Post #25 16 Sep 2019 09:54
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In reply to Post #22
Same as,not had any problems at all
Joe101
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Post #26 16 Sep 2019 10:30
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I don't have the same stove but every 6 months or so mine drops power and takes an age to boil water.

When taking mine apart I give all the parts a good blast of wd40, seems to do the trick every time.
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #27 16 Sep 2019 13:44
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In reply to Post #5
Every 6 months or so buy a litre of cheap Coke, the full fat version. Chuck it in a bowl and bung the stove in for 24 hrs, will come out like new as far as the metal parts go.
Zack
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Post #28 16 Sep 2019 15:47
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In reply to Post #26
Be careful using WD 40, it can destroy silicone or rubber seals. I've seen it happen in front of my own eyes when I was doing some maintance work which involved seals and they just expanded and deformed the moment WD 40 got on them.

I've ruined silicone seals on alarms and also rubber seals on my bikes with WD40. These days I will only use WD 40 on metal only and GT85 on combinations of metal and silicone or rubber seals
bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #29 17 Sep 2019 09:35
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2/3 years old and no issues from me . At least I know what to do if I do get any problems
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #30 3 Jan 2020 20:31
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Got mine burning an orange flame. Took it apart on the bank but couldn't find the little filter Anyone able to do a step by step?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #31 3 Jan 2020 23:44
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In reply to Post #30
It's a long time since I did it but I remember the filter is really small and just looks like a solid bit of metal, only about 5mil across if that. When you clean it you will see it is, hard to describe but like a cross section of multicore cable, the only thing I can find that resembles it is the ‘conductor' part of this image, but really tiny.
See if that helps at all

Baitman Baitman
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Post #32 4 Jan 2020 01:19
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In reply to Post #31
So you just gave the 'wire' filter a scrape to clean off any carbon?

Just read back and copied this from your post #5

I'm actually on the bank at the mo but with the aid of some crimping pliers, a spoon and a hook sharpening file I seem to have got it going again. Managed to fathom out how to dismantle it and I found the tiny metal filter on the back of the jet was covered in carbon. Filed it all off and it seems a lot better now
Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,794
Post #33 4 Jan 2020 06:31
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So you just gave the 'wire' filter a scrape to clean off any carbon?

In a word, yes.
Greekskii Greekskii
Posts: 3,434
Post #34 4 Jan 2020 07:45
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In reply to Post #31
Cheers, do you remember roughly whereabouts it is? I got down to having it all in bits but couldn't see it?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #35 4 Jan 2020 08:21
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In reply to Post #34
Not from memory sorry, I just know it's in there somewhere before the output jet, probably actually part of it
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #36 4 Jan 2020 08:52
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Cheers, I'll take a closer look once at home. Doing it under headtorch light in the back of the van was not ideal!!
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #37 4 Jan 2020 13:55
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Update; had another look and only found a wire which just looks like a mini steel cable. You can access it without taking the stove apart. There's a screw on the bottom of the brassy looking attachment where the gas comes in. Unscrew it and pull the wire out. I cleaned mine with a scrubber pad to get the carbon off. Working okay at the moment now. Hope it lasts!
slipd slipd
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Post #38 4 Jan 2020 14:11
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Sorry to hijack the thread but has anyone attempted to extend the gas pipe? Aliexpress, where I get all my Bulins from, do generic extensions...

That's my only one, very minor criticism of the Bulin stove, is that gas pipe is just a bit too short for me!
slipd slipd
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Post #39 9 Jul 2020 16:21
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Hi guys,

I've got the extension with a new regulator which removes easily but what are the joints called and where can I get them in the UK?

Pictured here, circled on red. The brassy bit. This.

Thanks.

noddieCarper noddieCarper
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Post #40 29 Jun 2021 11:22
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In reply to Post #2
I may do a how-to vid on cleaning them...

heres my 2 pennies worth...

Bulin T4 stoves are SH*T!

found these threads as looking for Bulin spare parts.

PAID £30 my Bulin T4 is 3 yrs old - used about 20 times per summer

its packed up. I'm an engineer by trade and have taken it apart and will say Bulin is absolute crap!

i've cleaned it, the jet was blocked and burner internal wire corroded, got it going again, however I doubt if it will last a season out.

guy on YT recommends chickland one only £8.00 ebay ...now gone up to 9.99 sent to ya door from UK, Power: 3500W & Igniter ...he says 2 years and hes had NO probs.

IMO, far better to buy a couple or more of cheapo's - then you may get the price down p/stove to £7 !!

...its ironic what crap they make today, as i still have my original old BRIT 1980 camping gas stove that takes the blue canisters, and its been used for donkeys of years still works fine, only prob is the canisters are EXPENSIVE if ya can even find them!
ip100 ip100
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Post #41 29 Jun 2021 11:26
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In reply to Post #40
They really arent. They may not be the best build quality, but they are widely regarded as a good stove by most on here. I bought a cheapy eBay thing for less than a tenner and it lasted a couple of months before falling apart, so back to my old bulin which I've had for around 10 years now and it's still going strong . Hardly call that ****
yonny yonny
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Post #42 29 Jun 2021 12:14
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In reply to Post #40
I think you've been unlucky mate. They're well regarded, I think mine is 6 or 7 years old now. Still works ok. These are ultimately cheapo tat from China, but one of the better examples of cheapo tat
chanmenie
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Post #43 29 Jun 2021 12:47
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Mines been used and abused for 5-6 years even left out in the rain, never missed a beat
noddieCarper noddieCarper
Posts: 81
Post #44 29 Jun 2021 14:09
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In reply to Post #42
yep seems I've just been unlucky, i remember when i bought it was supposed to be made in Germany?

BUT...i do get bitter & twisted and MOAN on the quality of what's made today, just look at bivvy/brolly systems, i could design a BETTER quality product for what these RIP-OFF tackle-barons charge and it would be FAR SUPERIOR AND LAST 20 YEARS!

BTW, I'm going to post this in both 2 threads LOL!
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #45 29 Jun 2021 15:24
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In reply to Post #44
i could design a BETTER quality product for what these RIP-OFF tackle-barons charge and it would be FAR SUPERIOR AND LAST 20 YEARS!


Mr A Hamidi is looking for engineers, cad designers etc.. for his new start up company you should message him talking in his recent interview he was saying something along the lines of a monetary return .
Lawson9 Lawson9
Posts: 259
Post #46 29 Jun 2021 19:48
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In reply to Post #40
Works out about 50p a session. Hardly the end of the world is it ? Just buy a new one.

I've got one and its spot on but it's 24 pound not 70 so if it breaks after 60 goes over 3 years il be more than happy.
Huge_jarse Huge_jarse
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Post #47 29 Jun 2021 20:25
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In reply to Post #40
Hornby engineer??
noddieCarper noddieCarper
Posts: 81
Post #48 30 Jun 2021 19:51
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In reply to Post #47
re "Hornby engineer?? "

HA-ha!

F1, subsea oil and gas, aerospace engineering - the deep end making the parts on conventional & CNC machines.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #49 2 Sep 2021 13:02
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Just for reference in case anyone has any issues as I just had to do an on the bank fix as described by Chuffy. You can see how caked up the small filter bit is and it's location.

slipd slipd
Posts: 612
Post #50 2 Sep 2021 13:27
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In reply to Post #49
And how's it performing now?
Wayne Wayne
Posts: 18,776
Post #51 2 Sep 2021 13:38
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In reply to Post #50
A lot better!
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