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scozza
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   Old Thread  #24 16 Feb 2026 at 8.49pm  0  Login    Register
Marks spot on for me, letting line out is the key, cast out, feel the lead hit the bottom, lift your finger off the spool, pull the rod back and let a large loop of line out, let the current take it and let it all settle

Once you master that you can start to balance your feeder out so that a bite dislodges it and helps to hook the fish
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #23 3 Feb 2026 at 6.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
I've done very well on mini cubes of luncheon meat, in particle mixes feeders etc. You just prompted me to look for the Tilley Meat cutters I have, but he doesn't seem to make them anymore.

Edit, Ernie retired & no more available.
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #22 3 Feb 2026 at 3.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
I used to push a tin of luncheon meat through a maggot riddle and ram some of it into an open end feeder. It worked well on my small local rivers and on the Trent.
gazza81
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gazza81
   Old Thread  #21 31 Jan 2026 at 6.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
To be fair the only 2 chub ive ever caught was on a hair rig haha

I'll give it a try, the barbel guy i saw was fishing hair rig but with really long hairs to avoid chub
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #20 31 Jan 2026 at 6.26pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
Never stopped me catching them. I was never actually targeting them, just the barbel. On a couple of evenings I ended up packing up early because I couldn't get through them. Had them as small as under 2lb on the tactics I mentioned.
gazza81
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gazza81
   Old Thread  #19 31 Jan 2026 at 6.19pm  0  Login    Register
Yeah it has fish, but not packed full, i see one guy fishing for barbel and one for pike.

I thought hair rig was not ideal for chub due to the way they feed, being shy bites?

ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #18 31 Jan 2026 at 6.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
I'd use meat on a hair, and cut some bits of meat an inch square but only maybe half inch thick, and throw 4 or 5 of those around the general area. I'd use a good inch cube on the hair, that will bring them in. The thinner freebies Infront would hold bottom a bit better. I'd sometimes use a few large halibuts as loose feed too. Only a small handful
karmh
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karmh
   Old Thread  #17 31 Jan 2026 at 5.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
Also sounds silly nut has the stretch got fish in...because some near me on Avon are barron and some are great
karmh
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karmh
   Old Thread  #16 31 Jan 2026 at 5.57pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
If I'm hair rigging I'll use a 6 or 8 hook usually wide gape. Running lead and at least 2ft hook link. With a pva mesh bag of boilie crumb which helps with tangle also
If I'm using meat or cheese paste around hook then at least size 6 hook.
gazza81
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gazza81
   Old Thread  #15 31 Jan 2026 at 5.49pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #14
I was using a size 8 but because i wasn't catching i went down, I'll try 6 or 8s again next time

If i use a lead, with meat on the hook is that all you fish? No free bait? Im guessing it all just goes down stream with the flow? Thats why ive been using a feeder and casting every 10mins
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #14 31 Jan 2026 at 5.16pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #13
Go.much bigger with the hook. I used to use 4s and 6s for chub and barbel. With a little underarm flick you'll get away with using 3 or 4 ounces leads on any tip rod too
gazza81
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gazza81
   Old Thread  #13 31 Jan 2026 at 4.59pm  0  Login    Register
Watched the avon film, tried a little of everything today, rod tips high, letting out a bow of line which surprisingly works but wasn't sure on bites as couldn't really see the line and the bites didnt really register on the tip.

I was using a size 10 and a bit of meat trying for chub with the chance of a barbel, tried multiple swims but no joy. I will persist!

Thanks everyone
SamB
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   Old Thread  #12 30 Jan 2026 at 8.39am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
This does'nt sound like it should work, but it really does.
Just make sure you're ready for drop-backs!
gazza81
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gazza81
   Old Thread  #11 29 Jan 2026 at 6.33pm  1  Login    Register
Cheers everyone, the rod tip is so flimsy, its quiver tip i think 🤷â€â™‚ï¸

Im using a 30g feeder and have just bought some long bank sticks to get the rod tips high.

Id probably go 2oz but wouldn't go highter unless i swap to my 1.75lb tc carp rods

I'll definitely check that Avon film out later tonight!

Lots of learning to do when it comes to the river, cant wait until it pays off!
karmh
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karmh
   Old Thread  #10 27 Jan 2026 at 5.54pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Easily, I've fished 3oz with big pva bags
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