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nickyp
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nickyp
   Old Thread  #39 19 Oct 2025 at 2.22pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
A lake with 200 fish in a 10.5 acre commercial puddle still equates to 19 fish per acre ffs. Yet you’re still moaning.

Take it on the chin as a bad experience, and move on ffs.
CarpCodger71
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CarpCodger71
   Old Thread  #38 11 Oct 2025 at 4.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
Catch 22 ?
harveyboy
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   Old Thread  #37 11 Oct 2025 at 1.57pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
Think the original post was a bit harsh although never seen or been,no one is entitled to catch but you are entitled for accurate fish numbers.
B1GCON
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   Old Thread  #36 11 Oct 2025 at 0.12am  0  Login    Register
Wintons fishery France…is it a scam?

Do not waste your time and money on this lake! This is going to be a long post, but I want to be thorough.

We (6 anglers) arrived Saturday 4th October I must say on first impressions the lake looked great. The exterior was nice, clean toilets etc.

However, upon walking around we noticed the water level had dropped a considerable amount from a post in may found on instagram.
it looked like the water level was 2-3 foot lower that what it should be. It so was so low, the rods had to be set up on the waters edge rather than up high on the swim.

We sat down with Roley to pick our swims and go over the rules. At that point I had asked if it was possible to cycle round in the evening and collect my dinner and cycle back (as I had the food package) to maximise the time my lines are in the water. He looked at me like I was mental and said “I’ve never heard that in 8 years”. This is something I have done at every lake i go to and I’m sure there are many other anglers that do the same thing.

Now to the fishing, when we asked Roley what the previous week catch report was he said “fish come out”. no information of sizes or locations which felt strange to all of us.

One of our anglers managed to catch a 25lb mirror on the first night and we thought great! Great start. From that moment on it went silent. not even a single beep of a bite on 18 lines between 6 of us.
no signs of fish. No fizzing. No bubbles. not one cruising around in the sunlight.

By day 3, we all became a bit suspicious. So, we asked Roley again how many fish was caught the week before. You know, trying to get some more info from the man that owns the lake.
He said “I think 8 or 9”.
Now if I was an owner of a lake I’d know how many fish, what weights they were and where they were caught from! Surely there would be more passion but we felt like that was a complete lack of interest.

To be honest, we should have known as prior to our visit we had this absurd response below.
we asked for catch reports via email as we searched the net high and low and NOTHING. Not a single catch report. The most recent post on their instagram (September 12) was actually made 2 years prior!

Roley’s response was “I stopped doing catch reports a long time ago, as in my opinion it doesn’t really reflect how the lake is fishing.” “ If I have some anglers that try hard and then some that are lazy and here for a social, the catch reports don’t show this?”
What a load of rubbish. Whether some people may be more social than others, the entire point people pack up from the UK and head all those miles to France, Is to fish.

Sick of the lack of information, all wondering what the hell we’re doing here, I done some digging across multiple pages and the only people I found that had attended wintons asked the same question, “any tips for wintons?”. I got in contact.

One man responded and told me when he arrived, there was a dead fish in the lake.
When he approached Roley about it, in his own words “he couldn’t look me in the eyes”. This particular man fished in a group of 6 and again they caught only 1 fish, 9lb. No bites the rest of the week.
A second group of friends of this man went to wintons after him and again…. No fish.

Another group that fished this year in may recorded that one fish was even caught twice!

There were conversations had about this lake being part of a syndicate owned by a few men and they parted ways at some point.
The website and social media for wintons states “under new management” despite Roley being the “new” owner for 8 years.


Something doesn’t make sense. The lack of any information. Lack of catch reports. The lack of fish. The only recommendations for the lake are personal friends of his. But according to the website, the lake started with 400 fish, with more being added….

If you decide to go ahead after reading this, well I wish you the best of luck!
oh and take your own food.
Do not waste your money on the £150 food package, which includes microwave meals and Lidl multipack trifle desserts or tinned fruit.
Because more importantly, if your group decides to leave early when they don’t see anything living in the lake, and you’re left on your own with the food package, he refuses to provide any food for you!
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #35 4 Sept 2025 at 4.48pm  1  Login    Register
Done 👍
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #34 4 Sept 2025 at 4.46pm  0  Login    Register
Any chance this can now be moved across to foreign venues so if and when it’s searched for it comes up in the correct section ?
Ellypne15
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   Old Thread  #33 4 Sept 2025 at 4.40pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
I got exactly what I want from this, the Lake owner totally dismissed a very polite email regarding the matter so now I have made lots of people aware of the pit falls of booking this lake!
RednBlue
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RednBlue
   Old Thread  #32 4 Sept 2025 at 3.11pm  0  Login    Register
Looks a lovely venue though!

maplecream
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   Old Thread  #31 4 Sept 2025 at 9.26am  0  Login    Register
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There is a stack of info on this fishery on the net, face ache, utube, including recent visits, catch reports, reviews. That's research isn't it? Well thats what I mean by it.
Nowhere is it described as a runs water.
Your correct in that you never know EXACTLY what your walking into, regarding a french holiday water, but most have plenty of info available, to make any BIG surprises unlikely.
blackfield
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blackfield
   Old Thread  #30 4 Sept 2025 at 9.19am  0  Login    Register
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If you had issues with Wintons, you're gonna love Vallee lakes.....
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #29 3 Sept 2025 at 10.55pm  0  Login    Register
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So
What is it you actually want from this ?
IF you are just making people aware then fair enough, IF there is actually something else then you need to get a lawyer involved and take it to court and let the judge decide.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #28 3 Sept 2025 at 7.59pm  1  Login    Register
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I'm struggling to find why you thought it was a "runs water"? Nowhere does it claim to be, and the numerous catch reports on faceache aren't too dissimilar to your groups results? Your average size was a bit smaller, but these things happen sometimes.
Ellypne15
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   Old Thread  #27 3 Sept 2025 at 6.14pm  0  Login    Register
So my frustration isn't at blanking because that has happened before, however I took another friend who started carp angling only 2 years ago as a release from having a non verbal autistic son, this was supposed to be a runs water where he had the chance at a 30 or maybe a 40lb fish, the chances of me hooking a PB where very slim and I accepted that, when you consider that it takes 7 hours to Dover from where we live and we both spent in excess of £1250 each for the trip all I ask is, that information on the website is factual, I personally don't think this is too much to ask, I couldn't care less about myself I had a trip to Bay Lakes in May and caught 9 fish to 46lb infact had 7 40's and 2 high 30's check Facebook for May you'll see it, i also have a trip booked to Vallee lakes in October, which could be tough if the weather and conditions and swim choice don't go my way which again i accept, I simply feel aggrieved that this place was sold to us on a blatant lie.
cfc4life
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cfc4life
   Old Thread  #26 3 Sept 2025 at 4.15pm  0  Login    Register
Its in the fisheries interest to be economic with the truth, would they get more or less bookings if the stock was stated as 200 or 400.
I agree with the op if the owners know there is a stock of 200 then correct the website etc which is clearly mis leading, a Charlatan gains through deception, seems that's what they have done to me.
And as for doing your research before you go what exactly are you going to research, your mate who may or may not have had a good week., catch reports from the owner, the bloke you met who reckons there are x number carp stocked. A question of trust.
A lot of competition for anglers hence creative advertising out there, not many places you know what you are walking into in my opinion.
maplecream
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   Old Thread  #25 3 Sept 2025 at 1.36pm  1  Login    Register
There's no way I would do a lake booking, without doing some research, and that doesn't mean from the owners website.
I would need info from recent visits, visiting groups.
That said, I can understand your frustration, info on their website is misleading imo.
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