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Barbel-Arch
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Barbel-Arch
   Old Thread  #17 1 Sept 2025 at 6.03pm  0  Login    Register
Thanks everyone.

We've only just had a delivery of new base mix ingredients. I order the same base mix ingredients every time, but only in 25kg amounts. So maybe there is a difference in what I'm getting. Mixes with both the old and the new ingredients have both been disappointing.

I think we'll try some Catch-it labs plum flavour next.
donkeypunch
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donkeypunch
   Old Thread  #16 1 Sept 2025 at 5.20pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
They’ve just bought out some Goo type liquids, think angling direct sell them.
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #15 1 Sept 2025 at 4.22pm  0  Login    Register
The carp chronicles podcast did a pod a while ago with the guy from a flavour house that was one of the main ones from back in the day.

The name of both escapes me atm but could be worth looking at that ad an alternative.
Sure someone on here will know it. Before I can get back from the podcast page


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Radford way ltd
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #14 1 Sept 2025 at 3.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
+1
donkeypunch
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donkeypunch
   Old Thread  #13 1 Sept 2025 at 9.34am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
DT bait’s flavours are good as are opti-baits, the wizard is particularly effective.
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #12 1 Sept 2025 at 9.14am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
I’ve used quite a few of the catch it labs EA flavours, I can’t remember them all but definitely white chocolate, juicy banana, plum and pineapple. These definitely ’cut through’ the basemix ingredients if that’s what you are looking for.

Regards JB. I’ve noticed no difference in the quality of his plum, Toppex, crab or fruit shoot I think it’s called, so perhaps as you say you’ve got a difference in an ingredient?
Barbel-Arch
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Barbel-Arch
   Old Thread  #11 31 Aug 2025 at 10.32pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
Yes, you are correct.
donkeypunch
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donkeypunch
   Old Thread  #10 31 Aug 2025 at 8.44pm  0  Login    Register
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AA baits flavours thread you say you used JBs flavours.
Barbel-Arch
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Barbel-Arch
   Old Thread  #9 31 Aug 2025 at 8.05pm  1  Login    Register
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No I haven't.

We've still got an amount of flavour left that'll see us through to the end of this year. We don't make a massive amount of bait, just enough for ourselves and a few friends. We don't carry a lot of base mix ingredients either. As you say, the flavours are well regarded, so I'm beginning to wonder whether it could be our base mix ingredients that have changed somewhat. We only order 25kg at a time as we can't store much more. But we order the same ingredients every time.
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #8 31 Aug 2025 at 7.56pm  0  Login    Register
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Obviously you are talking about JB, You mention you use his plum in a previous post. He is very well respected so have you tried talking to him about it. I am sure he will sort it out.
Barbel-Arch
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Barbel-Arch
   Old Thread  #7 31 Aug 2025 at 7.43pm  0  Login    Register
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All our flavours have come from the same manufacture. All his flavours and other bait making ingredients are expensive. That's all I'll say on here.

We don't mind paying these prices if the end product meets our expectations. However, the last couple of mixes we've made haven't smelt the way the previous mixes have. We use the stated dose rate, and have changed nothing from the original mixes. We use Plum and his version of Scopex. The Scopex smell still comes out on the end product, but we've somehow lost the Plum smell. We've tried AA baits Plum and found it to not be to our liking.

I was just after other flavour companies we could try to see if there is something else out there.
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #6 31 Aug 2025 at 7.37pm  1  Login    Register
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I’ve regularly used flavours from
John Baker
Catch it labs
AA baits
BAF
All have been spot on.

Optibaits are highly regarded but I’ve not personally used them.

I’ve dabbled with a few CC Moores flavours and they’ve all been disappointing and I wouldn’t use them again.

Hope that’s useful.
Andy__C
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Andy__C
   Old Thread  #5 31 Aug 2025 at 5.14pm  0  Login    Register
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I've had some nice flavours from Optibaits (Sam) and Biologic (Dan) - they have both been freshly made and not years old.

The Wild Berry and Blackcurrant from Optibaits might be a similar but different fruit for you. The Biologic Banana and then the scopex with the extra bits is


Where did your last batch of plumb come from? Any chance it's been on a shelf in a tackle shop / warehouse for a while before you bought it?
OatcakeFred
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OatcakeFred
   Old Thread  #4 31 Aug 2025 at 2.34pm  0  Login    Register
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Tony @ Premier Baits still sells flavours, and his baits were well respected back in the day.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #3 31 Aug 2025 at 2.10pm  0  Login    Register
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John Baker Plum is well regarded, unless not by you anymore
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