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In reply to Post #42
We didn't. Linear for example..all the fish used to sit in the middle of the lake because nobody could reach them..now it's accessible for most anglers..
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In reply to Post #42
Often we didn't. More suitable tools for the job have now become available. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
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Ironic that the person who can’t get their head around a simple concept is also the one who feels the need to call everyone else idiots.
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In reply to Post #41
And how did the do that (casting at those distances) before the ridiculous 4lb hype?
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In reply to Post #38
You clearly don't understand that the vast majority of the people on this forum are in the UK, where boats are banned on the majority of waters. Bait boats too. We have to cast.
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Fishing at 140 yards with a 3.5 lb rod and pva bag, been there done but now I know better and I bet most people can't even cast +140 yard with a 4lb rod.
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In reply to Post #38
I give up. Ain't got time to debate casting with someone who uses a boat to fish at distance 
Have a good day fella 
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In reply to Post #35
I never said I can cast 170 yard with a 3.5, my uncle did, but he also said it's ridiculous to cast at those distances and better to buy a rubber boat, so we did
And now we are fishing with a 2.75lb up to 190 yard, but that doesn't change the fact that 4lb is a ridiculous evolution
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In reply to Post #36
Sure 3.5 is a stiff rod but a 4 will cast further. We're simply trying to answer your question about why guys would use 4+ TC rods. If you dont want to hear it then why ask?
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In reply to Post #34
Phanton tribune 3.5 is a stiff rod  or are only the new 4lb rods stiff 😀
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In reply to Post #33
Why do you keep saying we? Not everyone has the same abilities! Plus, I'd love to see you cast a 3.5 170 yards with double 22mm baits and 20lb line.
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In reply to Post #33
I've had casting lessons with TE. First thing he tells you is use stiff rods.
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Again how is it that we could always do it with a lower TC before and now suddenly in 2025 we need 4LB TC for it?
Maby do a casting lesson to add 30 yards on your casting range
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In reply to Post #31
Just because one person can it doesn't mean another can too. Maybe they want to be putting bigger baits further? Maybe they need to use heavier line due to underwater obstacles. There are many reasons people may need the higher tc rod. Never needed anything like it myself, but I can see the need
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In reply to Post #30
If one can cast 140-170 yard with a 3.5lb does he need a 4lb hype rod then?
Whats next in 2030 5lb carp casting rods for 160 yard?
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