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Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #21 26 Aug 2025 at 6.37pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
Which app is better for which format? I was going to use tablet and tether phone to tablet (so I could get a split screen between autopilot and sonar (deeper)
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #20 25 Aug 2025 at 10.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
You can use both/either apps. I have gone over to the NDS app as it allows me to use the sonar but prior to receiving that would use them interchangeably depending on whether I used my phone or tablet (had a different app on each).
Belch
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   Old Thread  #19 25 Aug 2025 at 9.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Starting to think the same - its all additional agg!
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #18 25 Aug 2025 at 8.07pm  0  Login    Register
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Kinell sounds like you need a degree in advanced electronics!
I think I'll stick to casting
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #17 25 Aug 2025 at 7.03pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
. . . I did (albeit as a spare whilst my SB3 is in the shop) I'm on various FB group pages and still haven't driven/registered the boat in anger yet let alone attempted to pay for autopilot etc.
It is confusing - download the NDS app and bind to the boat (which is the 'new and improved' and has an interface for their new sonar) or use the ND Bait Boat app (which I did initially as the more logical decision) - Both apps are from differing sides of the business as I understand it so who is providing the support going forward?

Only arguable upside (or maybe downside) is warranty as I got my mk4 for a steal brand new off a competition winner and intend to pimp it with raymarine in the near future so am not banking on relying on it anyway as it will be invalidated. . .as long as one of the two warring factions supplies spare parts going forward I'm hoping all will be ok!

jhhilton1983
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jhhilton1983
   Old Thread  #16 21 Aug 2025 at 6.10am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
New Direction Tackle was selling its inventory on Ebay and Amazon, it made no attempt to launch its own website and continue the brand as it knew it had no means of replacing stock and also had no means to provide long term customer care, warranties can not be guaranteed as there is no ability to replace inventory.
Now the stock levels are low or exhausted, and the New direction tackle management has seen the success of NDS it has gone onto the attack through a personal grudge.



A poor showing on socials from both sides. The above section of the NDS statement is the essence of what's happened this week.

I questioned NDT as to why they would let another business "steal" there intellectual property rights and say nothing or react for 5 months. They responded that it was under legal advice . If your legal team advice's to you is to do nothing for 5 months while another business steals your customer base, then NDT need to give their heads a wobble.

I suspect NDS have the IPR to the boats, and they have been the ones to come out and offer support for customers since this all started.
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #15 20 Aug 2025 at 4.03pm  0  Login    Register
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Not much. What credibility they did build up is now rapidly going down the toilet.
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #14 20 Aug 2025 at 12.19pm  0  Login    Register
This back and forth reminds me of hutchy and Kevin nash having a bit of spat over the pages of the Angling times/ mail back in the late 80s when they both went there separate ways with the bait company they run at the time ( Catchum 88 ) Don't think both come out of it well.. but made for interesting reading.. Will someone get the popcorn..
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #13 20 Aug 2025 at 9.38am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Agreed. These matters rarely end well for either party and I would be surprised if the company exists in any form after all this and I agree that I would avoid anybody their products, especially the expensive bait boat at all costs (even though its never been a brand I would spend money on)
Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #12 20 Aug 2025 at 9.35am  0  Login    Register
What a mess!

Anyone purchasing an NDS boat at the moment needs their head testing!
spittlebug
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   Old Thread  #11 20 Aug 2025 at 9.31am  0  Login    Register
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Hi, ND Tackle's Response. Off Facebook.

"ND Tackle Bait boat" Facebook Page.

"We would like to address the recent statement issued by NDS. While we believe that the appropriate forum for resolving this matter is the court, we consider it necessary to mention certain points.
The announcement by NDS represents a subjective account, omits key facts, and contains several inaccuracies. We trust that the legal proceedings will establish the full picture and provide final clarity.
We would also like to thank the many customers and companies who have shared positive comments and expressed their support. Their confidence strengthens our own, and we remain fully convinced of our position as the case moves forward."


Bob
spittlebug
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   Old Thread  #10 20 Aug 2025 at 9.25am  0  Login    Register
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OOp's
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #9 20 Aug 2025 at 7.27am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
Did they ever have any in the first place?
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #8 18 Aug 2025 at 8.09pm  0  Login    Register
I'm hoping that NDS is in the right/win - otherwise I've pissed away £500 on a sonar system that I wont be able to use!
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #7 18 Aug 2025 at 6.59pm  0  Login    Register
Oh ffs what a joke.

I can't see either of them coming out of this with any credibility left.
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