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smellyfisherman

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#14 16 Jul 2025 at 6.25pm

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touch/feel/play with things first before buying it

Great idea, I might try that....

Belch

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#13 16 Jul 2025 at 1.39pm

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Think its all about percentages for me. . .and if I think something might give me an edge or improvement - whether that be presentation / performance / longevity or comfort I'm likely to investigate it. I no longer look at reviews or indeed any online guff; would rather take advice from on here or others real-world experience on the bank.

Sometimes I'll have a 'need-state' and make an impulsive purchase to resolve a new or specific situation (case in point - have just re-invested in loads of baitmaking kit after selling my previous stuff decades ago; I'm targeting bigger barbel on a river and need to do something different) - a lot of the time this works out but sometimes it doesn't. I do have a rule in that if I acquire a 'new' item then I need to sell an old unused one . . .there are a few items that have location specific benefits that I'll never sell - there are others that have sentimental value that are harder to let go of (they've usually resolved a situation previously) but do eventually get let go of before they become worthless / totally redundant.

Relatively recent (last 3yrs) impulses include 10' rods - I'll never sell my 12' set up but for the water I'm currently fishing 10's are simply lighter meaner and easier to use . . .conversely I have just invested in a Fortis Techlite sleeping bag (as a replacement for my ageing but uber reliable Gardner Compact) and don't really know what all the fuss is about . . .yes it fits better permanently attached to my bed chair and is silky smooth but I actually find it a little 'sweaty' in terms of breathability / not very hardwearing and am likely to ditch it shortly if it doesn't buck its ideas up!

vossy1

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#12 15 Jul 2025 at 1.45pm

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So going on the OP we should all have Centre pins split cane rods. Using cat gut crow quill floats with worms and bread.

I read it more as changing for changings sake.

Everyone's choice but on a long session I'll try anything to avoid a blank. After all is that not why we go out.

As you say, everyones choice. I go out to relax with the chance of catching a fish if it all goes well, if I don't, then I've had a great day out away from lifes stresses regardless. The day I come home and think negatively about my day because I haven't caught will be the day I give up fishing.

LeighamFox

Posts: 79

#11 15 Jul 2025 at 1.23pm

I always thought fishing was about catching fish.

So going on the OP we should all have Centre pins split cane rods. Using cat gut crow quill floats with worms and bread.

Everyone's choice but on a long session I'll try anything to avoid a blank. After all is that not why we go out.

whataclonker

Posts: 238

#10 14 Jul 2025 at 4.16pm

If I fished the exact same way for 10 years straight I'd be bored senseless!

Oh, wait...

Vibez87

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#9 14 Jul 2025 at 2.03pm

From personal experience, its about adding more strings to the bow as they say.

If you have only ever fished a certain type of lake and not had to tackle thick weed, gin clear water, long distances or heavy crayfish waters, then it could be a case of trying something different to the norm.

I've had situations where i am happy with my rigs etc, for the lakes i am fishing, but started fishing a lake where i couldn't keep a hook sharp for toffee, so i had to "try" the combi rig, which allowed me to change the hook every cast, resulting in more fish in that scenario.

How many of us can say with absolute certainty that we got the 100% full potential out of a fishing trip?

To your original point though, there has to be some thought process to the above, which does seem to be lacking. It's the ol' sheep mentality in a lot of cases i am sure, rather than a thought process of why and when to apply it.

RKB

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#8 14 Jul 2025 at 9.29am

I'll often try new things if I think they'll compliment my fishing.

For instance, ditched putty for chods / hinges in favour of the Korda balancing weights after thinking "they look tidy and less faff than putty, I might try that....."

Turns out to be entirely correct, and now I feel that my rigs are ever so slightly improved, which boosts confidence etc etc.

I wouldn't look at a rig online that I don't use and give it a go for the sake of it - there needs to be a reason. I suppose for many, the reasoning is absent, which means you just end up with sheep, which is exactly what the tackle companies want.

bentipping

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#7 14 Jul 2025 at 9.05am

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In terms of the question on kit the reality is for many of us it's almost impossible to see a good range of stuff in a shop before buying. I definitely spend a long time researching online before purchases but even then sometimes you use something at the lake and it just doesn't work for you.
Combine that with easy financing/credit folk will just keep buying a new version. Not sure they even sell the unneeded kit very often given how many times I see people say 'I have far too many bivvies' and you realise they have 6 in the garage!

Beyond that the various forms of modern media have convinced us the thing they are selling guarantees bites. Partly because they have to use click bait titles and messages just to get views. YouTube videos rarely explain the thought process or the why. I think that's why Scott Lloyds Vlogs have been popular because he does a good job of talking about what he's thinking and why he approaches a lake in the way he does.

kells

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#6 14 Jul 2025 at 8.46am

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If it weren't for people " trying things " we would all still be freelining spuds and catching **** all..

InTheMargin

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#5 13 Jul 2025 at 11.02pm

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Its all about the "why"

Always question why.

why that lead set up?, why that rig?, why those tc rods, why that location? why make a change? and so on.

Alot just follow trends blindly and have no idea "why" they are doing it, often... in completely the wrong situation.

Many do things for fashion rather than function.

Zack

Posts: 3112

#4 13 Jul 2025 at 8.30pm

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I never liked slacklining, but it was catching a lot of fish and a lot of people was slack lining.

So I gave it a go, I soon gave it up, Incredibly all the years we had been fishing it, I was the first to discover a massive snag out in the lake that nobody knew about that my lines fell slack upon. Nobody ever had found it with normal fishing, slack lining, with a marker float or even a sonar.

blackfield

Posts: 2551

#3 13 Jul 2025 at 6.18pm

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Well... about 18 years ago, I decided to give slack lining with fluorocarbon a go. Everyone I was fishing with were using fixed leads and tight lines, so I thought: why not buck the trend? And I think I'm being honest here and say that, and this is the important bit, that where the circumstances allow, I've caught more consistently than other anglers on the lake. It was a leap of faith and took a while to refine, but If conditions allow, it's my preferred way of fishing. It's not for weed or snag fishing, or long range fishing, for obvious reasons.

And I'm not saying it's for everyone.... or the best method. But my observable experience is that it is an advantage if the lake is weed free with even depths, it can really work.

Sometimes, making changes, can make a difference for the better. But, you need to understand why the changes are being made and what you expect to achieve with them.

wandle1

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#2 13 Jul 2025 at 4.05pm

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Truth right here ...and I thought I was the only one !

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Carp are carp ,I fish exactly the same where ever I go until ,the water ,fish dictates other wise ..ie its about confidence ,watercraft and learnt experience...

AideyKaye

Posts: 928

#1 13 Jul 2025 at 1.11pm

"I might try that".

One of the most common phrases I see written both on here and on Facebook pages.

But why?

Why do people feel the need to 'try' things? I think it's a far more complex thing than we think. A double edged sword which can either enhance someone's fishing, or it could end up in a spiral of doubt, resulting in another of the many full set ups that popped up on a congested FB market place.

I often see posts from people saying "Ooooo that looks good, I'll try that". It puzzles me. Why are you trying it? In theory, it SHOULD have already been tried already by an extensive promo team who are given kudos and freebies for doing so. Do you TRY a TV? or do you do extensive comparisons and research to see if it's the right thing for you?

Money aside, when investing in something we usually buy based on pedigree, reviews, long term reviews, durability (if buying second hand) and if its modular in terms of the size and slotting in 'looks wise' with what else it will be surrounded by.

Now, and this is a question for everyone really, why do you love chopping and changing? Was the last three things you 'tried' not working? If it catches you fish, why are you changing it? Is it the marketing that catches you? is it the modern need to have the latest 'thing' all matching and clean?

I understand that people spend their money the way they wish to, and that's great because you're keeping the industry ticking over. I understand people find enjoyment in playing with new toys. However, and this is a big however, I believe people don't look at the consequences of their choices and the practical aspects of it because they are blinded by the marketing. I've seen and heard it all...

"the bivvy doesn't fit in the swims on my syndi"
"bought these banksticks but my syndi has platforms"
"my head hits the top of the brolly"
"the bag doesn't fit under the bedchair"
"the cotton hoody doesn't keep me dry"
"the side panels are too flappy"
"the reel seat is the wrong shade of black"
"the wood effect handle is too woody"

The same goes with bait. Someone within my circle absolute loves chopping and changing things. Buys bivvies because it camo from fly-by-night companies. Buys the "best stick mix" on planet earth because so-and-so caught 50 from Brasenose, but then proceeds to catch every 2lb skimmer on an overnighter, resulting in 4.5kg of the bestest stick mix ending up on Facebay....did you not think that by using bream food in a bream infested lake, you'd end up catching bream?

Do you not touch/feel/play with things first before buying it (like you would do with an 8/10 down the pub), or do you go by paid marketing and the flashy pic on the angling direct website? It's the same with our society. We are fat, bored, and unhealthy because we look at flashy packaging on mass produced food and proceed to eat 20 grams of sugar in one sitting, yet in reality, we would not chuck 20 tea spoons of sugar down our throat because in the light of day, we know it's just not suitable. We are one of the fattest nations on the planet because we don't engage our eyes and ears and understand what we are doing when it comes to our intake of food.

Anyway, I digress,

Why are you using back leads in 14ft of water, then changing your lead arrangement and bobbins because your getting poor indication? Why are you using the latest sooper dooper distance leads if you're fishing on a shelf? Logic and a bit of forward thinking to YOUR angling situation, not somebody elses goes a long way to saving yourself money and putting more fish on the bank in my opinion....

In essence, Why do people totally change the dynamics of the most important aspects of their tackle? Why are they thinking that despite changes in atmospheric pressure, light levels, rain, wind, sun, water temps, spawning, feeding patterns, angler pressure, boat traffic, bird life, weed growth, nuisance fish, and a smidge of watercraft thrown in for good measure....they believe that trying a different brand of 'kicker' will make the difference?

I completely understand if you are fishing for a specific fish with specific feeding behaviour and you HAVE to make that change, however 98% of carp anglers aren't in that situation.


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