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mark1009
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   Old Thread  #26 1 Jul 2025 at 6.18pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Have to agree, my club has the no recasting rule, we have to use the retainers to put the fish in to take from the water with the net in to weigh the fish. Personally I'm not bothered with pictures other than a mat shot. I'd get a good picture of a pb but only if there was someone close by to take it. I've nothing to prove to anyone. I know what I've caught and don't feel the need to have to prove it to anyone else.
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #25 1 Jul 2025 at 1.59pm  2  Login    Register
Retaining fish in any weather weather is bonkers given the kit we have now.
If it’s a personal best - why would you risk it?
If it’s not a pb get a grip and do the photos within 5 mins with fish in the net.

Every fishery in the world should say no casting until fish has been returned. Given the great name that Korda have regards promoting our sport they are an utter disgrace - nets and slings everywhere whilst you bang a spare rod back out to try and get three, four or five at a time.

Rather than prepare to recast prepare to photo, weigh, return then back out. You may want everyone to buy multiple nets and slings but would love to go to one of Kordas own fisheries and have a few doubles in various nets and retainers whilst I get the rods back on the dance floor. Fish sizes and fish care are not connected.

‘Yeah it’s going well Dan, got a 12lber in that net, high single in the sling, just had a 22 and a couple of tench from last night in 5ish slings but just wanging it back out as they’re on the munch…
Mr-Bean-Laden
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Mr-Bean-Laden
   Old Thread  #24 25 Jun 2025 at 9.20pm  0  Login    Register
Waiting for sunrise - I've seen the consequences of this (not me), it doesn't take long in summer.
RKB
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   Old Thread  #23 25 Jun 2025 at 6.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Agreed. And if we’re that bothered, probably best to unhook in the net and not remove from the water at all.
yonny
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yonny
   Old Thread  #22 25 Jun 2025 at 1.56pm  1  Login    Register
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I disagree that retainers are a shocker. What you're referring to is misuse of retainers (which I agree with, obviously). Retainers are valuable for big fish imo. Almost any kit can be misused. Doesn't mean the kit is at fault.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #21 25 Jun 2025 at 12.27pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
100%

The only good use for a floating retainer is transferring a bigger than average fish from the water to the mat while still in the net. It supports the fish better than just lifting a bigger fish in the net, less chance of tail damage should the fish get slightly folded.
Then transfer back to the water, and release, NOT RETAIN...
James_9
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   Old Thread  #20 25 Jun 2025 at 8.30am  5  Login    Register
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Floating retainers are the worst product to ever been made, totally unsafe for the fish - designed for social media clowns to take daylight shots, so they can make videos for money and get likes on their pages - "gotta few bangers in the cells"...and the dawn shot of all the retainers lined up in the margins.

Putting an exhausted fish in the upper layer of the water column with hardly any oxygen is a joke. Some real gems have been lost in the Reading area due to this practice by so called legends and superstars whilst waiting for camera crews and the sun to be at full strength.

Keep the fish in the net (deep net like the ESP ones) sort your camera gear out. If you can't take night shots, get a grip and practice. This should all be done and dusted within 10 mins. The ******** you hear of "putting it in the sack to rest" is an excuse for a daylight shot. The fish will recover better swimming freely back in the lake.

****houses - all of em.

vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #19 22 Jun 2025 at 8.43pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18


Once on a week in France the temp had been 40 deg the previous week and was for ours 2. The vast majority of the fish were holding virtually motionless about 12" under the surface, in 14' of water, nearer the dam end. Was very frustrating but so is life.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #18 22 Jun 2025 at 8.36pm  0  Login    Register
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Arrrrr, fishing in the heat is one, burn him

I’ve been walking the dog on an evening on, a water where the fish rarely show, seen a few laid up just under the surface, loads of bream, especially where the water runs out, im thinking it must be more aerated, could be wrong?
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #17 22 Jun 2025 at 4.59pm  1  Login    Register
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"I always keep my mat upside down so won’t get hot for the fish."

I wear mine on my head. It keeps me cool as well.

I do get the occasional funny look from the noddy's but I shrug it off.
sharpda
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sharpda
   Old Thread  #16 22 Jun 2025 at 12.34pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
Exactly this.

If you catch make sure everything is saturated and I always keep my mat upside down so won’t get hot for the fish.
Smudge79
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Smudge79
   Old Thread  #15 22 Jun 2025 at 11.57am  1  Login    Register
These days I go fishing once a month, even if it was 40 degrees I would still go and fish for them on that particular weekend in those conditions.

Just use your common sense, act according to the conditions and you will be fine.
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #14 20 Jun 2025 at 8.03pm  0  Login    Register
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Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #13 20 Jun 2025 at 8.02pm  1  Login    Register
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Thanks for this link. Haven’t laughed at it for years until now
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #12 20 Jun 2025 at 5.53pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Burn him, he's a witch (well technically warlock), better than fishing.... see if Scozza floats

You forget, it's fish at all costs, as long as you get a great pic who cares if it's the last one.
In all seriousness it does worry me that there are people in our hobby who don't know if/when/or how to, retain in hot weather.
I see we have thunderstorm warnings too, classic deoxgenation crash weather

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