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In reply to Post #10
In your first post you said that you realised that solubles may be quite high. You have already solved your problem ! At 26 % , you're gonna have a sticky time ! Getting the level down to 15 to 20% will make things so much easier.
I always work in old school ounces but I'll put the percentages in ( just round them up or down ) I've always found it easier to use ounces and then substitute ounces for kilos when making a bulk batch.
5 1/2 oz Fishmeal ( any type ). 34.375 %
1/2 oz Shrimp Hydro / Hydro Fishmeal. 3.125
2 oz CLO. 12.5
1oz Robin Red 6.25
2 1/2 oz Semolina. 15.625
1 oz Soya. 6.25
1 oz Lamlac or Skimmed Milk Powder 6.25
1 oz Super gold 60. 6.25
1 oz WPC 80. 6.25
1/2 oz Kelp. 3.125
This will give you a soluble level of just over 15 % and be much easier to roll. Id also just stick to the recommended level of liquid hydro of 50 ml / kg of mix. Try a test batch and see what you think. You can also tweak the oil content. I usually end up at around 10 % dependant on ingredients and any oil added.
PS the percentages were in a neat column to the right on my draft but they seem to have marched to to the left !
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In reply to Post #9
I’ve checked the previous mixes again and the one rolled with only egg is definitely a lot better, I obviously want to include the hydros etc.
I wonder if I included a small amount of egg powder 4% to the mix in addition to the eggs this would give me the consistency I’m looking for 🤔.
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In reply to Post #8
It might…
Just consider that sticky mixes won’t be a pleasure to roll on a machine
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In reply to Post #7
Thanks Ynnek.
The mix was quite sticky which I expected, so I let it rest.
But once boiled 20mm for 2 1/2 minutes seemed slightly dry, but still soft centred.
It seems very close.
Could increasing the oil help do you think?
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In reply to Post #4
You should be able to get away with the liquid package you defined by tuning the mix.
I would up the soya and semolina each by 5%. This would aid rolling your baits.
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In reply to Post #2
So I have made two trial mixes,
I have had to alter the liquid mix dropping to.
40ml shrimp hydro
20g belachan
10ml cod liver oil
The first mix I rolled with only egg which seemed better than when I added the hydros in the next mix which cracked slightly 🤔.
Thinking about halfing the amount of hydro even though it isn’t particularly high.
Or sieving and blending the coarser ingredients.
Any advice please?
Thanks Tom.
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In reply to Post #2
Thank you Scaley and Dark,
That will be the first port of call as soon as I get all the ingredients together.
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In reply to Post #1
Have you ever rolled this mix yourself into round boilies and not cut into blocks or cubes ?
I would personally, before putting large mixes through a someone's rolling machine, try a small 1 egg trial mix myself.
Take you 1 kilo base mix, divide each ingredient amount by 7.
so your total mix is 142 grams, enough for a large 1 egg mix & some liquids.
That way, if it is a nice, rollable mix you are happy with, maybe then try a larger 3 or 4 egg mix. etc.
But if it doesn't roll, or it falls to bits, maybe too oily, or bouyant, your wastage is minimal.
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Good morning.
I have a recipe which is very similar to one I have done well on in the past.
But now I’m getting someone to roll it on machines where previously I have just cut it in blocks.
It is.
20% lt sardine and anchovy
10% krill
10% shrimp hydro or cpsp90
10% Clo
7% robin red
10% semolina
5% soya
10% Lamlac
7% sg60
5% kelp
3% beef liver hydro or edible shrimp powder bacarel
3% wpc80 or egg albumin
Liquids
30ml rr hydro
20ml shrimp hydro
20g belachan
Can anyone foresee issues with the roll?
I realise the solubles may be quite high.
Thanks Tom.
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