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essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #37 31 Aug 2025 at 10.07am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #33
Exactly, they could just have said use #### style of hook, but use a size 1 instead of a size 4.
runneil
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runneil
   Old Thread  #36 29 Aug 2025 at 6.13pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
OK, pointless conversation really, which I know I got involved in too 🤣🤣,

But the Fox wide gape long shank is still an excellent strong hook
SamB
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   Old Thread  #35 29 Aug 2025 at 10.05am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
Well, no, if you take a size 6 and only lengthen the shank, it's a size 6 long shank, or of you prefer, a size 4 "small gape"!
runneil
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runneil
   Old Thread  #34 29 Aug 2025 at 9.48am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #33
Oh ok ? Same with long shank hooks then
SamB
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   Old Thread  #33 29 Aug 2025 at 8.58am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
No worries, it is indeed a fairly similar pattern, albeit with a slightly shorter shank.

We are just pointing out that it's a silly name:
Take a normal hook, make the gape wider => "wide gape"
Now make the shank longer, what do you have ? Same pattern you started with, but bigger!
runneil
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runneil
   Old Thread  #32 28 Aug 2025 at 5.49pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
Not sure what you mean by that comment, bigger than what ? I'm just suggesting an alternative hook pattern which won't bend out
SamB
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   Old Thread  #31 26 Aug 2025 at 9.06am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
Been saying this ever since they came out!
To be fair it looks a nice pattern, ridiculous name though!
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #30 25 Aug 2025 at 6.30pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
Surely a wide gape, long shank hook is just a bigger hook?
runneil
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runneil
   Old Thread  #29 24 Aug 2025 at 1.51pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Get on the Fox wide gape long shank in size 5, sharp out of the packet and very strong hook, perfect for the rig you photographed. I've had numerous 30s and 40s on these hooks whilst snag fishing , never an issue and great hook holds .
chester1
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chester1
   Old Thread  #28 23 Aug 2025 at 1.29pm  0  Login    Register
I had one bend out on me whilst playing a fish. It managed to reach some rushes so had to put a bit of pressure on but it wasn’t nearly enough to bend the hook imo and I use pretty soft rods. Think I may try the xt’s as I love the pattern. Just wish I hadn’t bought 5 packets of the originals.
doobz
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   Old Thread  #27 22 Aug 2025 at 10.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
Angling iron chod hooks, are excellent. Very sharp out of pack and strong enough for nearly all situations. The points are decent but they will go
Over just like any sharp hook. Best hooks I’ve found for point longevity are gardeners dark covert range. They do a decent chod hook if you’re looking for a lasting point
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #26 22 Aug 2025 at 9.08am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Yeah the Nash hooks turn over easily since going to the Pinpoint finish.
I've got about seventy packs of the old style Chod Twisters in size 5, they should keep me going for a good while.
Superterrorizer
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Superterrorizer
   Old Thread  #25 21 Aug 2025 at 1.53pm  0  Login    Register
Had six fish up to 32lb today on the XT. I managed to catch two on the same hook but with the other four the very point of the hook was bent. All fish were nailed. I don't mind changing the hook after a capture as long as the hook holds are solid, and today they certainly were. Had another fish off the bottom with a Nash chod twister and the hook point was also gone on that hook.
strawberryblond
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   Old Thread  #24 20 Aug 2025 at 9.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Had them straighten out too, not used them since, but love the pattern. May try the XT in the future.
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #23 20 Aug 2025 at 8.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Funny you should say that, my mate is a bit of a retarded hooligan lol
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