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braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #102 29 Jun 2025 at 4.08pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #101
Tell them for the inconvenience you want full cash value,it is not good what they have done.The problem is most tackle companies are having massive issues getting things into the UK,loads of delays on everything.The best thing they could do is give an immigrant a piece of tackle each,they'd soon get it over here then
Catch23
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   Old Thread  #101 29 Jun 2025 at 2.42pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #100
I get what you’re saying but the cash alternative isn’t the full value of the prize itself. These things never are. And why would anyone run a comp to win something they don’t have? I mean they took peoples money nearly 2 months ago for this.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #100 29 Jun 2025 at 2.17pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #99
Ask for cash equivalent and buy it yourself from somewhere else,they may have their own supplier who cant get it
Catch23
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   Old Thread  #99 29 Jun 2025 at 10.50am  0  Login    Register
What would you say is a fair amount of time from winning a prize to you actually receiving the prize??
I won a fairly large prize at the start of May and I’m still waiting for it now because it’s been out of stock. Not getting any updates unless I chase it and I’m wondering if I’m actually being too pushy or expecting too much??
Singlebleep
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Singlebleep
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   Old Thread  #98 15 Feb 2025 at 11.52pm  0  Login    Register
I have simple outlook on all gambling.

If I won a million quid on a single bet, then bet again and lost £500k I would be more pissed off at losing £500k than winning the £500k I won.

Now that’s just me. Ihave no interest in gambling. I have no problem with those that do, just not for me. I don’t have the genetic tendencies to be attracted to it for money, although I can be a risk taker in general life.

Now drinking more than you should , women, etc etc that’s fair game
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #97 15 Feb 2025 at 1.45pm  1  Login    Register
Well it would seem Mark Pitchers comp site “capital carp comps” is a little strange shall we say!

I noticed that on the various big competitions with lots of prizes he does, that the percentage of tickets sold generally matches the same percentage of prizes won! I asked about the algorithm they use on the site and was told it’s totally random and simply the law of averages that it seems to match on so many comps! I said that’s rubbish as 100000 tickets v 1000 prizes simply wouldn’t do that time after time……..no further reply but was then banned from their comp page……

Strangely they now don’t show you how many prizes are won for each comp in a simple format like 100 / 1000 and the only way to see How many have been won is to sit there and add them all up from each prize that is listed……
clicky
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clicky
   Old Thread  #96 9 Jan 2025 at 7.44pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #89
1 of my grandads (god rest his sole) used to work at romford dog track,putting the dogs in the traps..was often offered a few quid to wipe mustard around a dogs backside to run faster 😆.Well that's what he told me 🤔.
Fivenil
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Fivenil
   Old Thread  #95 8 Jan 2025 at 9.40am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #83
Planet Rock comp is only ever won by people north of Watford so i stopped doing it.
InTheMargin
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   Old Thread  #94 7 Jan 2025 at 1.11pm  1  Login    Register
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.... I doubt they even gamble at all.... just take money off mugs for these "tips".

Most of them are affiliated with bookies anyway so get commission on any bets placed through their links.

Like has been said... if they were any good... they wouldnt need to sell tips, unless of course they are doing it to manipulate the odds so they can lay on the exchanges. With social media it cant be that difficult for them them to get alot of people backing a particular horse?

I remember when you used to get people in the car parks at race courses, trying to sell you a piece of paper with a number on it... saying it was a "inside info tip from the stables". People actually used to buy into/ fall for it (and still do).... now with social media and the internet.... its the same thing... but with an unlimited reach.

frothey
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frothey
   Old Thread  #93 7 Jan 2025 at 12.57pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #92
Too right. You're just funding their gambling, they're gambling with your money when they take money for bet advice. If the bet doesn't come off, you've lost the £50, not them.

It would be offensive to you or to anyone else if I was trying to sell you a loaf of smart price bread for £100 with a straight face

You obviously don't shop in my local deli........
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #92 7 Jan 2025 at 12.01pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #82
Quote.... Your not following Moosh tips by any chance TC...LOL...??

No Tad

I don't listen to any advice or take any influence from any source whatsoever regarding horses. No ones opinion matters to me except my own regarding larges sums of cash. It's odds based. I followed the same mantra with carp bait and media my whole life since a young age, it's always stood me so well in fishing and what's now my career too. I'm not interested in what everyone else is doing, in anyway, any shape or form.

I recently got into a conversation with someone very well known in the carp industry who will remain nameless. He was paying said fella you mention (or someone very similar) £50 per month for a load of odds on shots, more than half of which were losing. I was so shocked how bad it was. It was absolutely horrific. People are being scammed left right and centre. I persuaded him to stop that instantly. He was being conned.

ANYONE who can make gambling pay whatsoever... They do not need to take £50 a month for information from you. Any intelligent person can work that out, right?

TCarper
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   Old Thread  #91 7 Jan 2025 at 11.48am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #90
It's only offensive to me Wayne as I truly understand.

It would be offensive to you or to anyone else if I was trying to sell you a loaf of smart price bread for £100 with a straight face. It would be offensive, simply because you understand the concept of the true value of both things.

When people do not understand the 'value' whatsoever, it's far easier to lead people a certain way. That's all part of the illusion of gambling games.

If I found a way to circumnavigate seatbelt laws in cars, to make me an absolute fortune... But people are dying and being crippled for life so that i can make that money... Is that right? Of course it's not. It's shocking.
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #90 7 Jan 2025 at 11.15am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #88
Apologies, I was taking about the reyo comps (kisstory, kiss etc)

It’s free to enter via phone or post…….the call is charged at standard rate from mobiles which is a free number…….

The £100 free comps are like you say a tempter to spend more…….the one I won had spend a £1 on same order and win a 65 inch TV too…….which I didn’t do as I have more than enough TVs in my house…..

Easy money is to hard to ignore…….does make me laugh reading comments on the FB pages of these comps though as some people are so stupid they expect to win the cars when they have 199999 tickets up for grabs…….those odds make it extremely unlikely you will win but someone has too every time……
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #89 7 Jan 2025 at 11.11am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #85
Quote.... I was on about 50 yrs ago when I was 7 yrs old and I gave out the wins to the old girls who played bingo in my aunts arcade in jaywick by ping ball balls,not by some electronic con..and mobile phone


50 years ago everything was straight up mate. People were being conned sure in gambling games, it's always gone on. But not on a scale like today.

The reason these fecks can all get away with what they do, is because we are all pre programmed that this stuff could not be happening to us. Because of 50 years ago likke you mentioned. Or 30 years ago. We are still far to trusting about the world we live in, due to past experiences. The past is long gone.

Since the internet, things changed. The computerisation of gambling is one of the biggest cons in the history of mankind.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #88 7 Jan 2025 at 10.35am  4  Login    Register
Ask yourself why these competition companies are offering all these massive prizes specifically in the run up to Christmas? Be that on radio, or online?

Because they are tapping into the need for families to have a better Christmas, that's why. The whole thing is run on pushing a better life to people who are not so well off. Through gambling.

"Look at my posh fishing van, do you want my posh van that you cannot afford? Pay me lots of money and I'll enter you into a draw where the odds of winning my van are 10 billion to one." "You need to trust me that everything is pukka, just look at my Teflon smile again".

There are SPECIFIC gambling laws and legislation to protect against gaming companies doing that. These companies are skirting these laws. Bookies can't show you a mega expensive carp set up in adverts, telling you if you pop inside and risk your months wages so you might be able to win that set up. Specific laws against it to protect vulnerable people. Laws which are being circumnavigated, for the hosts benefit. Not the benefit of any vulnerable people that it's chewing up and destroying along the way.

If you want to know why every sausage is now opening a competition company, this is why. Easy money.
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