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Turbo German.
20lb IQ2 crimped with the xs crimps to length required.
Gardner CRV Hooks
Deadly!
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Ronnie or a German with a size 4 Krank. Been working well for me recently.
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In reply to Post #13 Switched from the D to the German as I liked the simplicity & less ‘gubbins’ around the hook. Cynical at first but I think the shot ‘drops’ the hook on the way out. Gives me confidence when stopping & turning fish. Different venues can respond to different rigs, horses for courses.
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Wafter can give iffy hookholds. Try cork stick but make it less than a normal wafter,
My "wafter" rig is slip D, big hook, tungsten kicker, 4" uncoated or 7" soft coated braid. The stiffer the material with a wafter, I find you tend to get some hookholds in the scissors
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In reply to Post #1 A year late but maybe this helps. I’ve switched to helis on leadcore & 6 Muggas, German rig bead on bend with a decent length of floss for wafters, sometimes cut down & 24mm’s cut with a cut pop-up. 8” Jellywire hooklengths & a swan shot about 2-3” above hook. Superb hookholds for stopping fish heading for snags & lillies. Depends on your water, pressure, going baits etc. I’m on silty river fed lakes & clay pits.
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In reply to Post #8 +1 for this
for a 20mm bait & bream use a slightly longer hair tied up as described below. have used this for couple of years & hardly lose any fish.
good luck
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i'd be giving the noodle rig a go. the OMC Noodle Kickers work really well and would comfortably take the eye of probably any size 2 hook.
Or a long shank hook (korda beaked point or Nash Longshank Twister) with a small but aggressively angled kicker. Micro swivel and hook bead to attach the bait.
Those would be my go to's....
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In reply to Post #1 After switching to wafters as my main tactic I've settled on a simple blowback rig with a short hair. I had been using German rigs but suffered a couple of hook pulls and not the best hookholds on the fish landed. Since I reverted to the blowback I've not suffered a hook pull and have been getting far better hookholds (using the same bait) so my confidence is sky-high with it
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In reply to Post #1 Give Darrell Peck's rig a try, but instead of positioning the bait tight against the hook ring swivel (or a rig ring if you have any), tie a longer hair to the hook ring swivel. Then, add a shot to the bottom of the wafter to make sure it lays flat on the deck if it doesn’t already.
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I use a combi, multi slip D. snowman as my pop up rig, wafters and bottom baits - hook holds are immense. I use 20lb X-Line as a boom around 9 inches to combi tied doubled up supernatural in 25lb with a TA grub aligner to a size 4 wide gape. Personally i think that little bit more flexibility in the xline over boom helps with the holds.
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In reply to Post #1 Personally I would use a longer traditional hair to give greater separation from the hook. I would also use a longer shanked straight point hook with a kicker. But I'm also aware that a rig like this needs pva stick or stringer to avoid tangles and that affects distance.
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In reply to Post #1 I've had good success on a flouro d rig with 22mm baits corked in to wafters, and 22mm baits snowman style. worked really well and I didn't drop a fish ona cheshire mere last year landing 26 fish out of 26 runs, seaguar ace hard flouro with a size 4 mugga.
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In reply to Post #1 I came to the conclusion that the German rig is not the one for big Hookbaits . I’m also using a multi combi , size 2 hook with quite a large kicker . So far so good . I should add , I’m using 2 x18mm baits as a snowman / wafter type bait .
If I feel it’s still not working how a want it I will go for a blow back to get more separation between hookbait and hook .
I did toy with a d rig on flouro which also has good potential
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In reply to Post #1 I'd be happy landing 5 out of 6 - stick with the combi multi rig!
I use the turbo german rig and I'm happy with it
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In reply to Post #1 If you've got to use 20mm baits why not try a bottom bait rig with a long hair. Mr hearns parrot rig might be worth a try. Or a KD rig with a long hair. Just put foam on the hair so it doesn't tangle. If you're worried about the hook point a small mesh bag with groundbait soaked in bait flavour or an amino type food liquid will protect and attract.
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