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In reply to Post #50
The massive UK deer population has lead to the increase of tick infestations, the carrier of Lymes.
Check yourself for Ticks if you have been anywhere where deer are present.
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In reply to Post #51
Anyone see the farlows post yesterday on the socials with the guy getting about 10 buckets thrown over him while holding his pb fish in a gravelled swim . Pathetic
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Not for me, silly idea that somehow caught on.
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In reply to Post #47
as Weils is hardly ever detected cos they constantly miss diagnose it as its NOT TESTED FOR IT !! cos the symptoms fit loads of other things same as Limes disease
You beat me to it Gerry, in all honesty Lymes disease worries me more than Weils as it's far more common imo, especially abroad. I got the bullseye when in France, came back, took about a week to get to see my Dr and he said by that time it was too late for the anti biotics and even then there wasn't a reliable test for it. A totally debilitating disease, just take one look at Avril Lavine 
I've posted this link before on the forum many years ago but in case anyones not seen it, worth a look forewarned is forearmed.
Click here
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I think this newspaper article in the news today sums it up why we should avoid as much contact with the water as possible and contracting weils disease: -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13455385/Child-contracts-Weils-disease-poorly-going-swimming-river-Essex.html
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In reply to Post #37
Stupid fad, bit like kissing them and splashing them as they swim off. What's wrong with a shake of the hand and a 'well done
They haven’t got hands for a start…..
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In reply to Post #44
OK well those statistics dont mean diddly squat
as Weils is hardly ever detected cos they constantly miss diagnose it as its NOT TESTED FOR IT !! cos the symptoms fit loads of other things
same as Limes disease a very good friend of mine the well known big fish angler Ian Grey in 2016 got very ill loads of test and results all saying things a viral infection the flue etc it marched on progressing and got so bad he had to retire from work then
ok I hope he dont mind me reposting from his web page and OLD SCHOOL TOYS it just might help someone
AFTER 30 MONTHS, back and forward to my gp /hospital. Finally after 2 grand and a private consultant, LYME AND ANAPLASMOSIS ..Big thank you to Darren Greaves and DR SHARON MARLOWE!! -.who listened to me, sent my my blood's to Porton Down
if it had been tested for 30 months previous there would of been a chance of treating it and stopping it destroying vital parts of his body
sadly its marched on since then and he is now very severely disabled and can hardly walk cannot go fishing any more or do much of anything
ALL BECAUSE NOBODY THOUGHT TO TEST HIM FOR LIMES AS ITS SO RARE !!! and will always be !!...........so will Weils
it will now finally kill him
we have no way of knowing how many people have/will die of Weils or limes because they are never tested for it so death`s are recorded as something else
BOTTOM LINE
if you go to a water with a large rat population you would be wise to take lots of precautions IMHO
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In reply to Post #44
your right it isnt, the reason its banged on about is awareness so you can inform a doctor at the early signs and force their hand to check for it, as most wont, they label it as flu as it present just like it. The whole "it's everywhere and you will die unless you drink sanitiser every time you go within 5m of any water" things is hysteria. Same people saying it do so many other things that put them at more risk of death, driving to the lake, sitting next to carbon rods in a lightning storm, sitting under a tree in strong winds, having a smoke, drinking or eating with the risk of choking to death.
More likely to get an eye infection than Weils if a bucket of water is thrown on you.
Whole thing seems daft just on the basis that who likes having cold water thrown over them whilst fully dressed, let alone anything else.
Each to their own, I'd rather a soaking in beer or a bottle of fizz tbh!
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Being near water regardless is dangerous whichever way you look at it,I remember when I was living down in Southampton and I came down to do a week on the river itchen,I had a guy come up to me and said you’ve just missed the BBC reporters down here and cmaera crew,apparently they had 5 canoeists on the river and 3 of them caught weils disease.
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In reply to Post #42
I have read Ken’s account of Weils disease. It’s clearly horrendous so do not try to imply that I’m diminishing the effects of the disease itself.
I was merely pointing out that if a sport, participated regularly by hundreds of thousands of people, including a club on a very popular carp lake near me, that has 600 swimming members that take part regularly, plus the occupations that face the leptospirosis risk (vets & farmers etc) and in total (after a quick google) there are less than 40 cases of leptospirosis per year with only 10% morphing into Weils, so that’s 4/5 cases a year, I’m not sure the risk is that great from a statistical point of view.
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Makes me wonder about the mentality of some of these new breed of suffering on purpose people ,like wild swimmers..
Seemingly they know some places that have a fecal discharge and yet still swim in those conditions.
Same as signs up on the big moorland ressi,'no swimming due to dangerous undercurrents '. So what do they do ,swim at dusk ,when no one can see them ,very dangerous thing to do..
No one is invincible.
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In reply to Post #39
I hear the Weils argument, but there are more open water swimming clubs out there than ever before, so if the risk was that great I’m sure these wouldn’t exist
REALLY !!!!
BEHAVE PLEASE
generally we are mainly talking about pits and lakes stocked with Carp and due to the masses of dropped bait the rat population explodes as does the very REAL RISK of catching Weils prime example is carp forum member Dear KenTownley !
CHECK OUT the stickies section Weils Disease sounds like it will be an education for you mate no offence intended
PS. funny enough Gigantia with its size and very deep average waters is probably one of the safer lakes
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In reply to Post #39
PS - I hear the Weils argument, but there are more open water swimming clubs out there than ever before, so if the risk was that great I’m sure these wouldn’t exist???
'Idiot' is a strong word but suitable for the description of people who knowingly swim in waters that are regularly awash with untreated sewage thanks to the inaction of the authorities.
'Clever idiots' in the case of the boat race.
Who knows, maybe its a ploy for a civil action!
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In reply to Post #28
TURKED.
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I happily obliged with a bucket of water when my pal caught his PB from Gigantica earlier this year. That said, all fish of 50lb can’t be taken from the water unless being weighed. Therefore the pictures were done in the water and that’s when we soaked him.
I can’t see the harm in that….
PS - I hear the Weils argument, but there are more open water swimming clubs out there than ever before, so if the risk was that great I’m sure these wouldn’t exist???
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