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bobstains

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#38 30 Jul 2024 at 10.20pm

In reply to Post #1
Hello,

I enjoy a fluff chuck for both Salmon and Trout, I have recently moved and have both on my doorstep.

Not been too successful with the salmon, but had a few nice brownies.

I try not to get to technical with my fly fishing, I just enjoy standing in the river or loch targeting rising fish.

vossy1

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#37 8 Jul 2024 at 3.50pm

In reply to Post #36
I'm struggling to load the rod up enough on the forward cast and release the line at the right time (generally letting the rod fall too far forward before letting the line go, but I may catch something my tw*tting the fish on the head with the line at speed!!)

Hi mate, good to hear someone else is learning, it's fun mostly, congrats on the 1st fish

Yep, I've done that, another of mine, not letting the rod down as the line straightens, ie, follow the line...doh. That video linked below, I was interested in him saying all wrist, all forearm, find your own combo. I broke my scaphoid doing martial arts 30 years ago and it means I have a semi weak wrist, I'm wondering if that's hindering me loading the rod, might have to have a play with that!

I bought a vest, Greys Tail and it just feels wierd

everythings so close I can't even focus on it and I'm not sure I like the pockets near my armpits. I guess it's somehing I'll have to get used to, and all those pockets, I can't see me filling them. I watched a video with Tom Rosenbauer on small stream fishing and another somewhere else, quite like the pack he was wearing further down on his waist,

964rh

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#36 8 Jul 2024 at 9.06am

In reply to Post #35
Hi Vossy

Good to read that your lesson went well.
I had a short session on Rutland last week from the shore and my casting was a little improved just by taking my time.

I'm struggling to load the rod up enough on the forward cast and release the line at the right time (generally letting the rod fall too far forward before letting the line go, but I may catch something my tw*tting the fish on the head with the line at speed!!)

I did however get my first fish, a fairly small rainbow but it gave a good fight on my lightish kit. Like being a kid again!

I wear a vest even when I wading, it fits high up on the torso (almost to the top of my carp waders) so doesn't get too wet, its only a cheapo one I was bought along with the rest of my kit from Maxcatch so haven't tried a waist pack - https://www.maxcatchfishing.com/packs-vests/403-g-mesh-fly-fishing-outdoor-vest.html

vossy1

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#35 6 Jul 2024 at 12.42pm

In reply to Post #33
Strewth, I didn't have time to finish the last post. Thank you once again, I will try and see how I get on. I've spent a few days looking at videos on youtube and there's 1 which stood out as it basically followed everything my instructor di, and in order, it's like it's standardised in the industry (probably is). Anyhow, even the Mrs watched this one and at the end of it she said, 'you struggled to do that, I'll show you, it's not hard'

and that's coming from someone who's only interest in fishing is seeing pretty fish! I'm going to take her out and see, she's got good timing so maybe she's right who knows.

Another Q for any fly fishers reading, do you have a pref, vest v say waist pack?

EDIT, said fly casting video, click here

vossy1

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#34 2 Jul 2024 at 7.37am

In reply to Post #33
Edited post

Carew

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#33 2 Jul 2024 at 0.16am

In reply to Post #32
Seems like a good session if you got that kind of distance on your second go. Glad the sideways stance helped you as much as it does me. A variation on the sideways stance is to close your eyes on the back cast and open them when you think the line is straight out behind you. When it works, it helps me to feel how the rod is loading, which helps with timing the forward cast.

If you release line on the backward cast then the rod will not load. You can still cast out a long way if your timing is good, but you will be dragging line rather than tapping forward crisply. You will also increase your chances of hitting bushes and fences behind you. I started off doing that, it took ages to unlearn.

Hope you are having fun with it. That is the main thing.

vossy1

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#32 30 Jun 2024 at 9.05am

In reply to Post #30
I went out yesterday, Carp fishing only for a few hours but gave myself a hour at the end to try your suggestion, my god, being able to see the line made all the difference. After 3 or 4 goes watching I turned away and the next few casts were spot on.
I ended up with 30' of line out at the end but my technique was faltering by then and I thought it best to stop as my instructor said try 30mins at a time no more. The 30' happened as I was took some line off the reel to try the release a meter at a time but the line slipped in my fingers and I thought just go with it and try it. On the next try false casting I took a load of line off the reel and let some out on the forward and back cast when it felt right and it just worked. I'm not sure if that's how youre meant to do it but it worked for me.

I can't get a lesson until August now, a bit long but plenty of time for pracice and to learn bad habits

vossy1

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#31 27 Jun 2024 at 5.06pm

In reply to Post #30
Thanks for the tip mate I'll try it

I did have the discussion that I didn't know what the line was doing, even mentioned watching Paul Whithouse doing what you say on tv. I guess it's all eperience. When 1st letting line out on the cast it really surprised me how much pressure the line was exerting between my fingers to the point it slipped slightly.

Watching Andy cast though, good god, effortless, totally silent, a pleasure just to see it.

Carew

Posts: 364

#30 27 Jun 2024 at 4.26pm

In reply to Post #29
You got it right at the end there: it just takes time and 7/8 on your first go is high praise.

Can I pass on a tip that helped me? When your timing is getting ragged, turn sideways to the lake and just do single overheads for a while. You will then see and feel how long it takes for the back cast to straighten, and see your clock positions. I still do it when I know I�m not casting well.

I hope you enjoyed your day. Casting is only part of it.

vossy1

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#29 27 Jun 2024 at 10.12am

JIC there are a few reading who might be thinking about trying fly fishing, and I'm sure a few who have and think that's familiar.

The lesson went ahead, luckily there was some shade, the wind was a problem at times. Andy was very patient (he needed to be) I think he was a bit surprised when I said I'd not even cast my rod but it quickly became apparent. He was hoping to go through 4 stages of cast, standard over head single, multiple, letting a portion of line out, letting portions of line out on the cast, we only got to stage 3 in the time.
I was:-

bringing the back cast forward too soon, I think that stemmed from me thinking it will hit the ground if I wait to long.
trying to use too much power bringing the back cast forward
not imparting enough power to either forward and back.
clock face....not stopping where I was told to on the casts, power 10-1 stop, I was stopping at 2, Andy told me to stop at 12, problem solved, I needed calibrating

I tried various stances, R or L foot forward, straight on, I kept reverting back to L and I'm right handed. R foot forward did stop me trying to impart too much power, I still need to have a little play with that. Andy said my natural is L foot forward, can I learn to change it, should I try to change it, will not giving it too much welly on the forward come with practice?

I found 2 things very disconcerting and they actually put me off the cast from the moment I lifted the line. Line slap in the rings/rod if the line had slight slack in it, I'm not used to it, in my head I have a instant STOP. I can only compare that to when I Pike or course fish with a back knot, that sound going through the rings always has me on edge. 2nd, the leader kept sinking slightly so it was pulling the piece of wool under before it went airbourne, again with a wierd noise which put me off. We tried the last few casts on grass and they were better with less variance, I think this was because I could cast without 'that' noise.

It's all about timing & rytham, in my head, I'm going to have to practice a lot to get that right and I could also do with some vallium to relax me....lol. Andy said overall I was a 7/8 & at times a 9 for a absolute beginner, On coming home I should be happy with that, but I wasn't, I was quite disheartened. We could see I was learning to rectify errors and I was even doing it in cast, varying speed, but there was no consistancy, there would be a near perfect cast and the next a crumpled heap of leader due to too much power again.

Today is another day and must learn to stop being so hard on myself, it's called the 'art of fly fishing' and I can see why, it takes time to train your brain so something becomes natural and timed well

vossy1

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#28 25 Jun 2024 at 7.40am

In reply to Post #27
few years before a fly coach stopped me and asked if he could show me how to do it properly because he was exhausted just watching me.

wasn't that good of them

Thanks, I'll try, forecast just changed to 27degc, I'm wondering if it'll be cancelled :-(

Carew

Posts: 364

#27 24 Jun 2024 at 10.41pm

In reply to Post #26
It is very graceful, quite effortless, with good technique. My pal put me straight on to false casting with overpowered kit on my first go . I enjoyed it and carried on like that for a few years before a fly coach stopped me and asked if he could show me how to do it properly because he was exhausted just watching me. Have a great day when you go, and take your time.

vossy1

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#26 24 Jun 2024 at 9.13pm

In reply to Post #25
A year...blimey. It looks a genteel effort to cast, I hope so, it's forecast 26 deg

..at least the lines should be supple. I just hope the lines I picked up with the 2nd hand reel are good, guess I'll find out, they look o.k.

Carew

Posts: 364

#25 24 Jun 2024 at 7.45pm

In reply to Post #24
You heard rightly. I was taught by a mate. Then I had a proper lesson. It took me a year to get back to where I was before the lesson, but then with a shorter, softer rod and about quarter the effort.

vossy1

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#24 21 Jun 2024 at 2.33pm

In reply to Post #23
I heard/read (rightly or wrongly) that once you learn bad habits they're quite difficult to shift so though it best not to develope any first

I'm sure the lesson will be a great learn for you too, I hope you have a great time, let us know how you get on.
Can't tell you how hard it's been not to try, my restraint for once has been impeccable.


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