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dickweed
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dickweed
   Old Thread  #26 27 Feb 2024 at 6.49pm    Login    Register
Thanks folks.

No prebaiting as such but I put out any remaining boilies on packing up.

I generally take a kilo even this time of year. Half goes in when I leave over two spots. Had an amazing winter so far from this venue and my other one. 20 mm baits on the hook on the bottom matching the offerings ( 16 mm) No pop ups, nothing bright, no pva. Just very simple. No tight baiting. Very simple running rigs.

framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #25 27 Feb 2024 at 6.01pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Well done
At the end of the day it’s all guess work none of us are fish
I wouldn’t eat goose **** but they will.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #24 27 Feb 2024 at 5.34pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Did you pop down to prebait prior to fishing. It's a massive advantage if you can.
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #23 27 Feb 2024 at 5.19pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
I'd be happy with that, well done
dickweed
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dickweed
   Old Thread  #22 27 Feb 2024 at 7.33am    Login    Register
Hi Team,

OP here, thanks for all your comments.

Last week I went back to the venue and fished 4 x early morning 5 hour trips. Never fished the water in Feb before.

Day 1: 26 common
Day 2: blank.
Day 3: the biggest mirror in the lake at 30 plus, 16 common, 26 common.
Day 4: blank.

All conditions very similar, same bait as last year. Frozen for a few months. Different flavour but slightly lower level than last year.

Overall verdict, probably been overthinking the bait thing a bit too much.
sexonlegs
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sexonlegs
   Old Thread  #21 15 Feb 2024 at 6.25am    Login    Register
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Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #20 13 Feb 2024 at 1.55pm  3  Login    Register
Can't help thinking we put too much thought into what a Carp may or may not eat, how old a bait is, shelf life or freezer bait, how many times it has been in and out of the freezer etc, etc......Carp will eat what they want and after witnessing a high 30 a few years ago hoovering up pellets in the margin that were sat in a load of Goose sh!t I'm not convinced they are that fussy really...!
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #19 13 Feb 2024 at 8.12am    Login    Register
From my experience good baits Will consistently catch - but more important than that it removes doubt # especially on a lake like you describe. You have a bait that works well and they want to eat.

What you have described isn’t (for me) a coincidence- it’s a set of data that you are looking at through a critical lens, without including other variables such as weather, areas, and how the fish are feeding. You then throw in any concerns you may have have regards % of stock already hooked - this doesn’t impact my thinking but does with others. I am a believer in a good bait never blows - but I know people who are firmly of that opinion.

I would struggle to think that there is an optimum time in a freezer - I always ‘activate’ my bait with warm water as I only really day fish - it was on here I think from T Carper? Unsure if it works but I can certainly understand the thinking, that every batch I put in is active from the first introduction not sat on the lakebed waiting to age/release.
Sealine
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   Old Thread  #18 12 Feb 2024 at 4.40pm    Login    Register
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Do you have any Carp bait barons in Australia ? Aren't carp vermin in OZ ?
Monkeypox
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   Old Thread  #17 8 Feb 2024 at 10.37am    Login    Register
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I think you are looking far too deeply into the situation. I do not buy into the fact that freezing a bait for more than 3 months will make it less effective.

It's fishing , you can have red letter days then baron periods.

sexonlegs
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sexonlegs
   Old Thread  #16 7 Feb 2024 at 6.58am    Login    Register
*my home base mix.*

nice one!

i've ALWAYS said home-made baits will be FAR superior AND catch MORE than what the GREEDY bait barons flog!

Ive used my home-made baits being frozen up to 2 years and they still catch
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #15 28 Jan 2024 at 3.59pm    Login    Register
Not a scientist...lol...but

You say it's a 'hard' water but you don't say the stock. A possibility, these being 'cute' fish, could your bait be blown, in terms of they're now wary of it, not enough fish about that haven't been caught on it?
Norfolk_Bob
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Norfolk_Bob
   Old Thread  #14 28 Jan 2024 at 3.36pm    Login    Register
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Totally agree NW
NemesisWitch
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NemesisWitch
   Old Thread  #13 28 Jan 2024 at 8.13am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
JB says a lot of stuff. Most is correct. Some isn't (his rant on acidity for example)
As regards the 3 month comment, he talks (if I remember correctly) about proteins breaking down after being in the freezer for a while. A bad thing? Considering what proteins break down into? I'm commenting from a purely practical viewpoint anyway, and that my home made baits show no sign of loosing their effectiveness after being in the freezer for 3 years, that's all.
Well done to the OP on his fish. I think he has answered his own question anyway!
darkoL
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darkoL
   Old Thread  #12 28 Jan 2024 at 6.25am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
You were obviously doing something right but to many variables to define answer. Good angling!
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