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 New Posts  German rig v blow back. Is there a difference?
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kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #5 7 May 2024 at 4.54pm  0  Login    Register
I was a user of the so called slip D rig for many years. Have recently given my head a wobble and gone over to a hook swivel on the shank of the hook stopped with a hook bead. This set up was in use for many years before the so called German rig came on the scene ( everything is a rehash of what has gone before it seems in carp fishing )

The main reason I changed over was I was finding that the braid to form the D was spinning around the shank of the hook. Went over to a multi rig type presentation for a while which went someway to solving the problem. Then I thought apart from changing the hook does having the hook swivel on the braid make any difference to having it on the shank of the hook. In my opinion, no it doesn't. A lot simpler to tie and it won't tangle. I use it for both pop up waffter and bottom presentations now.
chewbakka
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chewbakka
   Old Thread  #4 2 May 2024 at 5.34pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
I would say yes , it holds the rig ring on the shank stopping it running up so the bait cant tangle around the hook and to keep it away from the hook point. thats my opinion/reasoning
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #3 2 May 2024 at 2.46pm  1  Login    Register
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I never knew this, mind you when they were first invented it was probably way before my time, and if it wasn't it would have been through my early years of fishing where a rig out a packet was the best I could muster, through sheer laziness, I might add.

Nowadays I tie my own rigs, and the blow back rig is my go to for bottom baits and wafters.

I'm just wondering if the smaller rings now used are indeed to stop the bait ending up over the hook eye so that if you 'get done' by said carp you'll always be 'fishing' so to speak, rather than a large rig ring ending up over the hook eye and down the braid/fluro/mono of the rig, where it would completely ineffective.

With regard to the original question, I've no idea on that bit of braid but I'd imagine likely no purpose at all, that I understand of the rig, anyway.
carpe_diem
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carpe_diem
   Old Thread  #2 1 May 2024 at 8.02pm  2  Login    Register
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That’s a good question… a blowback rig when invented many years ago used a rig ring much larger than those used in todays so called ‘blowback rigs’ the larger ring allowed the bait to pass over the eye of the hook.
To be a true blow back rig the ring should be passing over the eye of the hook on ejection by the fish whilst leaving the hook to penetrate deeper as the fish tries to blow the bait out.

The blowback rigs you see today are a far cry from the rigs we used to use years ago, they aren’t really a true blow back rig more like you say the German rig.
Stickysticky
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   Old Thread  #1 28 Apr 2024 at 9.32pm  0  Login    Register
The simple question is: when using a blowback rig, utilising a ring on the shank, knotless knot style, does the line that comes from the knot, to the hook ring serve any purpose?

If you look at it, a german rig uses a swivel to attach the hook giving loads of movement, but the bait comes off a rig ring in the same way as a blow back rig as explained above.

Therefore, is there much difference to the mechanics, given we can tie either rig in the same materials etc etc?
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