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Muddy_Hi-Lux
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Muddy_Hi-Lux
   Old Thread  #55 16 May 2024 at 9.24am  0  Login    Register
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Another year or so then.
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #54 16 May 2024 at 7.58am  0  Login    Register
I love all dogs and have 2 schnauzers- one is a bloody nightmare around other dogs the other is brilliant. I don’t trust MY dog around others but especially bull breeds, not because they are bad or untrained but because mine would try the patience of a saint and in the end I believe a bull type dog would think - I did warn you. So my nightmare dog is always on a lead so it winds me up when other dogs run over to ‘play’.

I have known many stafffies and all have been brilliant - however they are muscle and can be very protective - I believe if any bull breed were trainable the Police would use them, they don’t as there is always a chance that others push the dog into a state of rage that seems to be trainable only with Alsatian’s.

My dogs have never bitten anyone - but I also know 99% that even if one ever did they are simply not powerful enough to kill - like baby goats!

It’s a shame about peoples perceptions of breeds and very true that it’s all down to the owners. Just my personal take and I like nothing better than any dog when fishing saying hello and ish I could take mine, but the stress would kill me. Loves people hates anything non human that moves!
AndyJ309
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AndyJ309
   Old Thread  #53 16 May 2024 at 7.47am  0  Login    Register
Lab for me, I think the key is to get them used to going with you whatever breed you take. If you only take them occasionally it can take them 24 hours to settle into it and get used to all the different smells, noises etc.
DenzelLN
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   Old Thread  #52 15 May 2024 at 4.18pm  0  Login    Register
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Haha, 18 months so still daft as a brush
Muddy_Hi-Lux
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Muddy_Hi-Lux
   Old Thread  #51 15 May 2024 at 3.00pm  0  Login    Register
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How old is your swamp collie?
DenzelLN
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   Old Thread  #50 15 May 2024 at 9.52am  0  Login    Register
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I take a wide berth because my golden retriever is an irritant and is that excited he just annoys other dogs!
Boris_Carp
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Boris_Carp
   Old Thread  #49 15 May 2024 at 9.26am  0  Login    Register
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Border for me too such characters and excellent ratters which comes in handy
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #48 15 May 2024 at 9.21am  1  Login    Register
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I was going to type the same thing
I've no personal issue with any breed thats well trained and has a responsible owner but it's hard to judge that a lot of the time, especially instantly, so for that reason I'm always wary with my Dachshund around larger dogs, especially strong muscle jawed breeds. I will pick him up if in doubt as the consequences don't bare thinking about, which is a shame as it breeds insecurity in him.

Another reason I pick him up is that if another dog tries to bare over or dominate him he stands his ground and will attempt to strike 1st if he's in any doubt. I've often had comments from other owners of bigger dogs when I pick him up, "you didn't have to pick him up, don't worry mines freindly/wouldn't hurt a fly" that sort of thing. They often look confused when I say "I'm not worried about yours I'm worried about mine". Rigid none waggy tails tend to give you a heads up when to be cautious of a dominant/confident dog.
DenzelLN
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   Old Thread  #47 15 May 2024 at 8.51am  0  Login    Register
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That may well be true but that's simply because there are far more labs around, they are the country's most popular dog. And, labs don't kill people, bull breeds do.

I don't avoid staffs but I avoid bully types, just ain't worth it.
woody71
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   Old Thread  #46 14 May 2024 at 11.09pm  1  Login    Register
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If people really do that then i sympathise with you i for one certainly wouldnt and initially would ask if it was ok for me to stroke your dog then if ok would make a fuss of it, like i would with more than 90% of the dogs i meet regardless of breed.

I don't think staffys have a bad reputation of attacking people certainly all the ones i have seen haven't shown any of those traits, i have seen some that have been dog aggressive possibly in part to the terrier in them but not to people

The problem is that regardless to number of bites of certain breeds the more severe bites or attacks even sadly fatalities have been from more powerful dogs often including larger bull breeds granted these aren't staffys but all bull breeds have been tainted in the public eye and by media etc because of this.
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #45 14 May 2024 at 3.46pm  2  Login    Register
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I’m sure I read somewhere (a while ago admittedly) that the top dog attacks included Labradors,jack russels & sausage dogs and maybe chihuahuas and that the staffy isn’t in that number although I could be wrong.
Also when there’s a dog attack they always say it’s a bull breed of some type and put a picture of a staffy up showing its teeth yet apparently that same picture is a staffy actually sneezing,again I could be wrong but I’m sure I read it somewhere and a while ago.
My 2 Staffies where protective but very friendly to people unless they didn’t know them always handy to take with you though as I had a few issues on the river at times with groups of lads until my one staffy got out of bag and stood in doorway of bivvy and because he didn’t know them he showed them he wasn’t happy they were there.
I also had a guy who had an issue with me when I was in Southampton he was fishing with his wife but pissed out of his head and tried to cause grief and he tried to kick my dog and my dog went for him to warn him to stay away,he staggered off and his missus come over afterwards and apologised and took him away to sober up
djstrauss281
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djstrauss281
   Old Thread  #44 14 May 2024 at 12.10pm  1  Login    Register
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There seems to be confusion about my statement.

I was specifically speaking about my dog and breed not dogs in general. As you said any animal is capable of an attack. Simple search would show Labs are involved in more dog attacks and human attacks for that matter than a staff.

My argument is people walk circles around me and my staff but they see your lab and think ahh cute.

So unless my original comment wasnt clear maybe the above would help you understand
alapeche
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   Old Thread  #43 14 May 2024 at 9.52am  0  Login    Register
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Canalcarper71
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   Old Thread  #42 13 May 2024 at 5.46pm  4  Login    Register
I had 2 staffies when I lived in Southampton and been bought up with them all my life,our last one my mom had was a rescue dog and she passed away last year,I’ve never known another dog to be so loyal and friendly and it’s a shame they get a bad press when some smaller dogs can be more vicious and also the owners don’t help with the way they look after them and show off with them.
But all dogs are fantastic unfortunately humans aren’t
RKB
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RKB
   Old Thread  #41 13 May 2024 at 5.45pm  0  Login    Register
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I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong. You stated "I do not understand" - OK, the breed may not be exact but absolutely everything else is.
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