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Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #43 1 Mar 2024 at 10.34pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
Something i thought Julian had and probably still does.

Money makes people do and say strange things.
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #42 1 Mar 2024 at 10.32pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
You may be right, I like to believe some people have a quality called integrity.
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #41 1 Mar 2024 at 10.16pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
So man paid by bait company says people aren't willing to give enough of their money to said bait company 🤔


No ****.
Doing_a_brew
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Doing_a_brew
   Old Thread  #40 1 Mar 2024 at 9.35pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Julian Cundiff has mentioned a few times on his socials that nowhere near enough people are prepared to pay for an expensive bait (The Key was it?) and so it just got quickly discontinued.

55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #39 1 Mar 2024 at 8.10am    Login    Register
I loved the Red squid and used it exclusively for years.I found it was a slow starter but my God it was always worth the wait and usually 6 nights (3 weeks of 2 over nighters) it would start to come into its own. Bait when I leave and bags when fishing I was so confident in it.

Iíve spoken to Gary at shows and he certainly knows his stuff and knows how to put a good bait out. BUT.

these days the huge bait companies all need to produce good bait, within guidelines, to suit massive rolling facilities and on an acceptable budget to be able to make a profit for multi million pound companies - its a volume business. Itís good bait (probably) but puts you in exactly the same bracket as all the rest. I donít like Mainline bait, not because itís not good, but it bores me. It bores me because lakes become dominated by it on pure volume - usually via cheap consultants putting it in by the ton.

If I could get frozen original squid I would, but the newer version has far too many compromises. I use a small one man company, that I have ultimate faith in, every batch is the same as the one before. You can tweak.

Speaking to a nashbait guy at the last show, he said they were reducing the range - and not doing any frozen baits anymore due to 75% of anglers using shelfies and freezer space etc.

So I think Nash bait is good, as is (probably) sticky, mainline etc. But you are dealing with a shovell full of this and a bucket full of that. A compromise for the pure scale.

This coming year I am looking at changing bait for the first time in about 5 years - purely out of adventure and going onto a fish meal bait - i donít use huge quantities so will be looking at Jason Rider, ABS and companies that can provide that old school nostalgia. Itís not the going bait, it will be my bait!

If it was Baynes bait Iíd be all over it.
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #38 1 Mar 2024 at 7.33am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #37
Forgot about this. When they opened the new factory they did say that they could roll any of the back catalogue of Nash Baits if you bought a high enough quantity. Obviously some ingredients may need to be substituted due to unavailability but never heard of anyone getting this done. The white amber attract would be my choice but I donít use bait in that quantity these days.
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #37 1 Mar 2024 at 5.59am    Login    Register
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You can if ordering 50kg plus from Nash if I remember right
shane24
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shane24
   Old Thread  #36 29 Feb 2024 at 8.31pm    Login    Register
I used to use Nash Formula 1 Shelf Lifeísin the early 2000s, used to catch pretty much everywhere I took it.

Wish I could get some of those again!
scozza
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   Old Thread  #35 29 Feb 2024 at 4.45pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
That will have been on the S mix
bristol
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bristol
   Old Thread  #34 29 Feb 2024 at 3.48pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #33
The freezer bait version of the Tangee Squid was far better IMO, a much more subtle grey colour and nice and soft. Did very well on them.
edski119
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edski119
   Old Thread  #33 29 Feb 2024 at 3.39pm    Login    Register
I remember the tangee squid, caught a few fish on those as well. They were rock hard baits.
Iím sure they had the dissolving ball pellets in that flavour as well.
They were a great idea at the time.
carpstar40
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carpstar40
   Old Thread  #32 29 Feb 2024 at 2.42pm    Login    Register
Used a lot of Nash Bait mid late 90's early 00's and caught well on them, the original scopex squid livers were for me phenomenal and put a lot of fish on the bank, when they rehashed it a few years ago and brought out the version it is now I bought some for old time sake and to compare it to what I remembered.
I used it on my syndicate for the first time on opening night, no pre-baiting etc.. just fired ten out with a catapult each side of a set of pads and cast the rods on them and surprisingly had two over 30lb out in ten to fifteen minutes, that was good enough for me, I very regularly fish it now on at least one rod Spring to Autumn and more often than not puts a fish or two on the bank.

Memory's a bit hazy around mid/late 90's they did a tangey squid it came in blue bags had the colour of a typical orange tutti bait, I guess it was a version of their high attract bait from back then, what I do remember well is I used to do very well on it although it was just a rock hard 50/50 over flavored uninspiring dough ball with god knows how much preservative in it but it caught me some fish.
sexonlegs
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sexonlegs
   Old Thread  #31 28 Feb 2024 at 5.14am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
no i don't, all i'm saying is my experience with a BIG well known bait company back then...
SHimmer45
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SHimmer45
   Old Thread  #30 14 Feb 2024 at 9.29am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
i too used to love using this.
the smell for me was more interesting than other tutti based baits
but it cant have been that popular.

Be nice to find another similar bait which isnt going to disappear
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #29 14 Feb 2024 at 8.37am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
I only ever used the Tangerine Dream from the range and that was based on the fact that it had the Campbell's Tutti Fruiti as part of the attractor package. The fact that it was only 12% protein, cereal based and went soft quite quickly were just positives from my point of view.
It definitely used to pass through the fish nice and quickly in cold conditions, as the orange unhooking mats proved. Sadly missed.
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