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In reply to Post #20
I make up similar with some lead-free leader, splicing a loop in one end to attach to my mainline with a simple grinner (I dont use loop to loop as one of the rules of the syndicate is to use rig tube, so I use about an inch of silicon tube or a trimmed line aligner to just hold the rig tubing close to the grinner knot and cover the knot.
I fish it drop off as well. I use a twin big-ring swivel (Bank tackle do them), the lead-free leader is spliced to one of the big rings and the rig is loop-to-looped onto the other big ring. The the other end of the big ring swivel is pushed into the bottom of the lead and the lead free leader pulled tight around the outside of the lead and held in place on the stem with a tail rubber.
Works for me, always drops off on a take and never lost a lead reeling in.
Another option not already mentioned on this thread - its not optimal as I prefer not to use a lead clip in a bag, but one water I fish its the only option you can also (just about) use the Korda Hybrid lead clips and tie the bag around the bit you push the tail rubber onto. You then just tie your mainline onto the loop thats fuses to the lead clip body and slide your rig tube and tail rubber down. I use a short length of lead free leader with a loop spliced onto the end and attach it to the hybrid lead clip loop whilst I tie the bag - just makes tying the bag a bit less fiddly and remove the lead free leader once the bags tied.
One thing to watch out for with pre-made bags - if you critically balance a wafter or popup - be wary if you make the bags up too far in advance as it will dry the hook bait out a bit making it more buoyant - I had some wafters that turned into popups when I had some pre-made bags I kept for a week between sessions. Only noticed it when I was testing how a bag broke down in the margin.
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I知 on the bank now and before I left yesterday I made up 4 bags ready to go I知 only on the canal but I like to prep things and normally tie my bags the night before or if I知 off on the day I知 going I値l do them on a morning,I love fishing bags great way to present a bait over any bottom and I lost a big fish early hours of this morning,so tying some up is a great way to get hook bait back out without a lot of fuss
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In reply to Post #27
It all pulls out through the lead/stem under hardly any pressure. I've no worries at all about these tethering a fish. I also fish barbless hooks as an additional safety precaution.
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In reply to Post #37
Yes I also do that but still don't make the night before - final stage is piercing opposite the lead with a good dose of white squid smart liquid; I need to take out shares in mainline the amount I use but it seems to work!
X5 has not been without issues - had some tracking probs on the 22" rims (which were sorted) and then a corroded transmission connection which was a hefty bill; however still love the car in general as a daily driver (its like driving a rapid sofa) and its alter ego as a 4WD 2 ton carp-mobile!
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In reply to Post #36
Belch
You are correct about bags deflating over time. Good tip is to not compress/fold the corners on pre made bags. Do it before you use them can get them as solid as you like then
I always wait till i use the bags to pierce/glug and fold corners and its as good as when made then
Ps hows the beemer going
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In reply to Post #1
I used to use the gemini stems (and they are a good product) but prefer really heavy leads on a drop off for solid bags these days so make my own mini leaders with Nash Cling-On unleaded and make up a load in advance with the Fox inline drop off system attached. Hooklinks are either 3-4" braid or sometimes a mini 3" bungee hooklink (PB Products)
With all PVA I make mine on the bank - even though you can pre-make bags, even the tightest solid bag will 'deflate' after a few hours . . . I also never make mesh bags in advance - they soak up any oil in the bait/pellet and over time can take an age to melt underwater.
If using 3x rods just make up 6x bags with rig / lead / mini leader set up and if you catch a fish / re-cast you're already ready to go . . .if you start to haul just keep ensuring you always have another 3x ready to go . .
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In reply to Post #32
Just tie a couple up it comes of very easily
Iirc There is a video with ting tong from years ago and he shows how he sets them up in the same way.
You can always fish it drop off style if you are really worried
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In reply to Post #32
Its a running lead system. Under pressure the lead and tail rubber would be pulled over the loop of the braid depending where the break is come off the line.
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In reply to Post #31
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Sorry I don't understand, how does the lead separate from the hook so the fish aren't dragging it around? if the line gets cut above the loop?
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In reply to Post #30
Because it braid it collapses on its self
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In reply to Post #25
can that all slide off if your line snaps?I ask
the same question about the gemini ones, if there is a loop surely everything won't be able to slide off.
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In reply to Post #25
I do exactly this myself but with slightly longer leadcore to make sure no mono in the air too close to my rig.
With fluro these would be bang on
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In reply to Post #25
I've been making these up recently myself.
Not got them as neat as yours yet, always seem to have an inch or two of leadcore at the top.
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In reply to Post #1
I've been making my own stems for some time. I typically tie up a hundred bags at home if I'm doing a 4 or 5 day session, although I haven't been out yet this year.
45lb ESP lead core with the lead stripped out, stems , QCS with a 2 oz NGT lead.
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In reply to Post #20
I
think Frank's leads might do the cable ties much cheaper..I'll look and post a link if I can find it.
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