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carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #50 14 Feb 2024 at 5.54pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
There a bit pricey ainít they ???.
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #49 13 Feb 2024 at 7.39pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #48
Helinox chair1xl in forest Green, butt's right up against yr bedchair,the chair itself is maga comfy ,I've fallen into a semi doze on it many times,it's a chair ,not really meant for anything other than sitting on ,support is up to my shoulders, but then many carp chairs also don't have head support

Where Helinox wins ,is comfort,portability ,mega lightness, and convenience...not much to dislike if you want a nice upright view...
nicky_napkins
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nicky_napkins
   Old Thread  #48 13 Feb 2024 at 11.58am    Login    Register
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Helinox Chair one xl...I was just looking after you recommended ,this can't go on top of a bed can it, do you mean you just put in front of the bed?
Looking again this won't support your head, the back is too low.
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #47 13 Feb 2024 at 11.11am    Login    Register
I still use an Avid RT ,lightweight bedchair,with cam wheels,I have used it as a bed/chair,to be honest it's not comfy as the end bar ,will dig in your back..

I tried a Tacklebox bedchair buddy thingy...nope
Then a Chub,bedchair buddy...nope,both sag as they don't go full width of frame..

Then I sat on a multimat foam sit mat,but now I met farmer Giles,so then I discovered Helinox Chair one xl,this is mega comfy,and butt's right up against the bedchair frame...use either in bivvy or outside...good kit
Mitomaniac
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Mitomaniac
   Old Thread  #46 13 Feb 2024 at 5.53am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
I've got the Nash one that was on offer everywhere for £19.99 that goes full width of the bed and adjustable length, has a couple of straps used to adjust the back angle.. I found it quite comfy the couple of times I've used it so far.
r0bertb00th
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r0bertb00th
   Old Thread  #45 12 Feb 2024 at 11.30am    Login    Register
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Yes my scope black ops has this function not that ive ever used it - however ties in with the whole scope ethos

That said I much prefer a seperate bed and chair and although the bed buddys work are a better option than sitting on your bed I much prefer getting out the bivvy and sitting on a proper chair
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
aka Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #44 11 Feb 2024 at 6.10pm    Login    Register
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SADLY it seems the one I would recommend seems to be discontinued thats the Daiwa Mission Bedchair or the same one TFG TF Gear Chillout Bed Mate

the most IMPORTANT POINT is it MUST span the complete width of the bed as this then prevents you tipping back and thats the cause of bedchair back ache when sitting just on the bed
I see that Angling direct do one that looks in the pictures to be wide enough to span the bed ?
sadly the back is not adjustable though
LINKY POO
clicky
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clicky
   Old Thread  #43 11 Feb 2024 at 5.43pm    Login    Register
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I got a fold flat seat from my main tesco store. Cost 10 quid. It's made out of a heavy duty material and has 2 straps connecting the seat bit to the back rest. I just leave it folded flat in bedchair when not in use. Perfect for sitting sideways on bedchair.
nicky_napkins
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nicky_napkins
   Old Thread  #42 11 Feb 2024 at 11.53am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Same question ..
I would love a lightweight bedchair buddy that folds flat
and has an adjustable back.
lurchy
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lurchy
   Old Thread  #41 11 Feb 2024 at 11.14am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
Always take a separate chair. I cannot sit on a flat bed chair. Cripples mi back.use a tracker recliner
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #40 11 Feb 2024 at 11.01am    Login    Register
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Them 4 folds are a decent price for Nash, just had a look Ö..
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #39 10 Feb 2024 at 10.36pm    Login    Register
a decent bed chair buddy

I've never owned one but always liked the idea, any inparticular which are decent?
Euroboybobbin
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Euroboybobbin
   Old Thread  #38 10 Feb 2024 at 2.09pm    Login    Register
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Nash 4 fold have the said system for propping up the back of a bedchairÖ.


oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
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   Old Thread  #37 9 Feb 2024 at 6.28pm  1  Login    Register
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Are we are being conditioned to take a separate chair to sit on during the day now?

has anyone ever pulled a Bed chair out of their bivvy to use it as a chair in the sunshine ? what a nightmare that would be ?

and personally I find in winter a decent bed chair buddy a thousand times more comfortable than the old beds that tilted
and in warmer weather a nice reclining chair to sit in the sunshine and doze off
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #36 9 Feb 2024 at 6.19pm    Login    Register
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Are we are being conditioned to take a separate chair to sit on during the day now?

Very much so. I much preferred the positionable rear on the bed, hated sliding down mind on a slippy peachskin bag...lol, but it would give me a bad back after a while. A weeks session in the rain ain't much fun which is why I always took a euro extension so I could fit a separate chair in comfortably. I've never owned a bedchair buddy as in my mind when they first appeared bivvies were too sloped at the back for them to be of use when you put your bed tight to the back, I guess with modern designs of squarer back its a lot better.

I wonder why no company has brought out extra long legs as a option for the rear, would just be easier to keep the adjustable wheel and keep it of flat design tho.

I think you could easily make a clamp on bracket to fix the back section upwards, 2 screw in multi clamps and a adjustable bankside spring to mind.
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #35 9 Feb 2024 at 5.21pm    Login    Register
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Thatís a top idea that , nice one
clicky
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clicky
   Old Thread  #34 6 Feb 2024 at 3.52pm    Login    Register
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I use 1 or 2 old banksticks with soft rubber u rests to prop my bedchair up when reading. If I'm using a groundsheet I just chuck a cheap roll up door mat under the pointy ends.
lurchy
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lurchy
   Old Thread  #33 5 Feb 2024 at 7.42pm    Login    Register
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Speaking from experienceÖÖ you go night fishing Iím fine with that ,not a problemÖÖ..one divorce later turns out she was very happy to see me out fishing 😂😂😂

Bed chair question, I went traditional bed but use a winter and summer bag on it , if thatís any use 🤷🏼‍♂️👍
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #32 5 Feb 2024 at 7.01pm    Login    Register
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Any thoughts on the new JRC defender bedchairs ..??.. seem to be a half decent price
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #31 27 Dec 2023 at 12.55pm  1  Login    Register
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Must admit I used to prefer it when beds were able to be lent up and fixed in position for reading or whatever at night or horrible days in the bivvy, like my Nash wideboy years back, my flatlighter only goes flat so I end up laying on my side to read or watch my iPad or whatever, and itís so uncomfortable doing this. Iíve ended up resorting to taking extra massive pillowsÖlol
junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #30 27 Dec 2023 at 11.22am    Login    Register
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Yes definitely referring to the OG bedchairs

Are we are being conditioned to take a separate chair to sit on during the day now?
zinno
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   Old Thread  #29 26 Dec 2023 at 1.12pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
-Ngt classic recliner micro fleece bed
-Avid Carp Ascent Recliner Bed
-Prologic inspire relax recliner

But not the best beds on the market imo
carpy09
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carpy09
   Old Thread  #28 26 Dec 2023 at 1.06pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
Think his referring to bedchairs where it has old traditional hand wheels so you can have the back upright and use like a normal chair
zinno
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   Old Thread  #27 26 Dec 2023 at 1.00pm    Login    Register
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Most brands still sell real bedchairs instead of sleep systems, most brands have a sleep system with a separate sleeping bag such as Solar/Trakker, Fox also has real bechairs but with the option to zip a real sleeping bag on it


Nash/Avid are the two most knownthat make real sleep systems, for me a sleep system is a bed where you can zip the top layer of a sleeping bag onto the mattress.



essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #26 26 Dec 2023 at 7.12am  1  Login    Register
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I don't think anyone still sells a true bedchair. I still use my old jrc X-lite as a day chair from time to time.
junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #25 24 Dec 2023 at 8.18pm    Login    Register
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Does anyone actually still make bedchairs or are they all just beds now?

Liketwofish
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   Old Thread  #24 23 Dec 2023 at 5.13pm    Login    Register
Perhaps have a look at the Sonik. Iíve got the SK tek 5 season sleep system. It was about £230.
Ged
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   Old Thread  #23 23 Dec 2023 at 9.33am    Login    Register
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Ive had a Duralite for a couple of years, and really like it. I find it very comfortable and it feels wider than it actually is.
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #22 22 Dec 2023 at 11.15pm    Login    Register
Hi all, Iím aiming to buy a new bedchair in the new year. My old wychwood has been great but itís coming to the end.

Iím looking for a unicorn - the perfect balance been weight and comfort. Needs to be light as I barrow long distances at times but Iím not getting any younger and need to look after my back.

Has anyone used the fox duralite , or can recommend anything else?

Cheers
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #21 19 Dec 2023 at 11.13pm    Login    Register
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The Advanta bed chair in post 1
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #20 19 Dec 2023 at 8.17pm    Login    Register
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Whatís 79 quid Ö????
sexonlegs
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sexonlegs
   Old Thread  #19 18 Dec 2023 at 8.35am    Login    Register
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yeah, been looking for something like this...bargain at £78.99...now out of stock
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #18 17 Dec 2023 at 5.00pm    Login    Register
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What about these ??

Solar SP C-Tech Sleep System - CH01 - Carp Fishing Bed System

Carl
SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #17 15 Dec 2023 at 12.19pm    Login    Register
thank you all for your suggestions.

I have returned the Avid bed, kept the 5 season sleeping bag and will be giving night fishing a go on Z (or W) frame bed to see how i find it initially. A bed will be purchased at a later date if i enjoy it. Avid and there heated mattress topper looks quite appealing :D
johngall
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   Old Thread  #16 14 Dec 2023 at 9.07pm    Login    Register
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ive got the mf60 ss4 for the colder months inc the heated blanket,total luxury. then in the warmer months i use my jrc xlite levelbed inc a sim. works for me.
carlos0012
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carlos0012
   Old Thread  #15 14 Dec 2023 at 8.19am    Login    Register
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Iím looking at a new sleep system too, as I currently have the fox flatliner, I find it heavy and cumbersome, Iím leaning towards an avid bed, with the usb heatable mattress as a bonus as there about 50 quid ( the usb heater/topper/mattress)Ö. But not sure which one to go for, itís such a minefield Iíve been looking at this upgrade problem for 2 years now Ö

As I prefer a hard mattress/bed for my back, Iím over 6.1ft tall and donít want anything to heavy as I fish tamar lake and have to lug my kit Ö.

Carl
Leonparadise89
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   Old Thread  #14 8 Dec 2023 at 0.34am    Login    Register
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Iím not sure as iv seen them for 260-270s I paid 180 for mine i did look at the system but I prefer a bed and a bag
55s
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55s
   Old Thread  #13 7 Dec 2023 at 10.50pm    Login    Register
Iíve found beds fit into two neat categories

The weight of a mini metro but comfortable
Liftable but uncomfortable

I go a (Nash mf60) for a week session and B (old Nash) for single nighters.

Thereís not a bed on the market (imo) that does both.
SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #12 6 Dec 2023 at 9.37am    Login    Register
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for some reason, the avid leveltech beds seem to vary wildly on price.

Is there like varying models which aren't clearly marked? (besides them being standard and X, 6/8leg)
Leonparadise89
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   Old Thread  #11 6 Dec 2023 at 2.39am    Login    Register
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I brought an advanta bed in the sale about 6 months ago, used it on a few overnights and it was ok then used it for a 3 night session drove straight to the tackle shop on the way home and brought the avid leveltech bed, absolutely killed my back but I am 18 stone and I was feeling the bar even with the elastic tight. My boy now uses that bed as heís only 10,

As for the sleeping bag I had an advanta 4 season bag that I used for a good 2-3 years couldnít realy fault it
shane24
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shane24
   Old Thread  #10 5 Dec 2023 at 9.38pm    Login    Register
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Iíve got one of the sleeping bags, itís a decent 5 season bag.
Fleece top half and smooth bottom half from what I remember.
I rarely use it as I have got the Fortis one too which I prefer as it packs away smaller, however the Advanta is definitely warmer.
secret-agent
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secret-agent
   Old Thread  #9 5 Dec 2023 at 7.25pm    Login    Register
I bought one of those beds when they were £60ish a few weeks ago. I would say it is a decent bed for that money, nowhere near the quality of the Trakker superlight bed I also use but then its nowhere near the price.

It's on the smaller side, I'm 5' 10 and would say I only just fit on it comfortably. It also creaks. A lot.

No experience of the bag but its a 5 season bag so unless you are going in the winter, if you've never been night fishing before you're probably not starting now, I'm sure it will be fine for you the rest of the year.

Bren987
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Bren987
   Old Thread  #8 5 Dec 2023 at 2.57pm    Login    Register
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I have the cx4 sleeping bag, it's done me OK for 3 years so I'm sure that will be perfect
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #7 5 Dec 2023 at 1.56pm    Login    Register
Why waste money upgrading if you are hardly going to use it.
you might not like going night fishing yourself so stay as you are until you are sure you want something a little better.
Not sure on the products you have bought but if itís too cold you Can always buy a thermal cover to help
tazi
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tazi
   Old Thread  #6 5 Dec 2023 at 1.29pm    Login    Register
Seems thereís only one in the relationship whoís hesitant to pull the trigger.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #5 5 Dec 2023 at 1.17pm    Login    Register
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That advanta bedchair is a decent budget option, I have bought one myself.
It's just the same as the wychwood the costs £140.
RKB
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RKB
   Old Thread  #4 5 Dec 2023 at 11.49am    Login    Register
A lot of people don't like systems and prefer a separate bed / bag combo. It depends on what you want. One thing you might want to try to do is check some out in a shop, if possible.

Otherwise, the Solar CH08 bedchair is a good price and is very popular here - not hugely different to Solar SP-C Tech that costs 2 x the price. Then it's a case of finding a suitable bag, but a lot depends on the conditions you're going to be out in. For what it's worth, I have the SP C Tech and a Trakker Big Snooze bag (smooth lining) with the Korda bedchair cover. Works for me.
Monkeypox
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   Old Thread  #3 5 Dec 2023 at 11.35am    Login    Register
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Muddy_Hi-Lux
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   Old Thread  #2 5 Dec 2023 at 11.00am  9  Login    Register
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I'd be asking what his name is!!!!
SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #1 5 Dec 2023 at 9.54am    Login    Register
Hello all,

I have done very little in the way of night fishing, partly due to my wife telling me that she doesn't like to be left alone at night.

Well this weekend just gone, we were at the carp show in London and i pointed at one of the bed chairs that i've had my eye on for sometime but have been hesitant to pull the trigger due to the above and worry as to how much use i would geto ut of it.

It turns out for this christmas she had actually gone and bought me a bed and sleeping bag, kind of like a gesture to encourage me that its ok to go out at night. The only reason she told me is that she fears she may have made a poor decision in what she has purchased bless her.

I had my eye on an Avid Benchmark sleep system and my wife has bought the following 2 advanta products.

https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/advanta-discovery-ccx5-5-season-sleeping-bag
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/advanta-discovery-ccx-straight-6-bed-superlite

I have always been skeptical of the quality of Advanta products.

She is said we could return them and put the funds towards something else.

So the question is, is their a widely recommended sleep system for around 250 pounds?

Thanks for reading

Daniel
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