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StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #18 8 Jan 2024 at 10.27am    Login    Register
I've just ordered a set of these but I think going forward I might just buy some fluro to make my own.
https://www.geminicarptackle.com/shop/tidy-booms/ronnie-with-spinner-swivels/
nicky_napkins
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nicky_napkins
   Old Thread  #17 5 Jan 2024 at 10.06pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
Spiced Stiffy.. I would rather make my own but they are so good, I can't make them like that.. and you can change the hook so they Last forever 😊

https://choicerigs.com/collections/front-page/products/thoroughbred-advanced-lg-spliced-stiffy-rigs-x3
Fivenil
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Fivenil
   Old Thread  #16 5 Jan 2024 at 1.50pm  2  Login    Register
KD rig. Simple but effective. Use for bottoms, wafters and pop-ups.
SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #15 5 Jan 2024 at 1.48pm    Login    Register
There are so many rigs out there but ultimately you could get by with 2. 1 for bottom baits and 1 for pop-ups. (some bottom bait rigs can be used for popup baits also with the addition of weight like a split shot.

The rigs i would always recommend if using size 4 and 6 hooks are as follows:
German Slip D rig (could be done as a combi) (for bottom or wafter bait)
Ronnie Rig for pop-up (very simple to put together)

I am however experimenting with the Mechano Rig and Stiff Hinges atm...


If you struggle with dexterity in your fingers or have poor vision, i totally understand why you would want pre-made. Outside of these 2 reasons, i believe you are engaging in a false economy, especially if you are changing the hook every fish, or cast even...
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #14 29 Nov 2023 at 7.16pm    Login    Register
That makes perfect sense, thanks guys.
Best I go buy some braid then ...
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #13 29 Nov 2023 at 2.28pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
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Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #12 29 Nov 2023 at 2.27pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
It's not all about the strain that the line breaks at.

Hooklink materials generally get stiffer as they increase in diameter/breaking strain.

Different levels of stiffness can be advantageous for the mechanics of a rig. A stiffer rig will also often be less likely to tangle.

I wouldn't buy a 35lb mono over a 25lb because I was worried the 25lb would break. I would buy it because it is a stiffer material and if I was tying a chod type section I prefer as stiff as possible.

With softer materials like braid the diameter for the BS can we very thin. This could possibly damage a soft mouthed fish. You would therefore buy a higher BS, thicker material to prevent the mouth damage.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #11 29 Nov 2023 at 2.27pm    Login    Register
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Various reasons. Low strength braid for instance is very thin, so can act like a cheese wire and cause mouth damage, so a heavier strain braid is thicker and therefore stops that. Also things like heavier coated braids are stiffer by nature so help prevent tangles. Sometimes other species are present that can pick up your bait , a catfish for example will shred a low diameter braid very easily in the abrasive pads in its mouth, whereas a heavier braid will stand a better chance of holding up, and not leaving a hook in a fishes mouth
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #10 29 Nov 2023 at 1.46pm    Login    Register
Can someone explain why the breaking strain of rigs can be so high?

I would have assumed that the rig strength should be lighter than the main line so if anything were to break it would just be the lower area leaving the weight on the main line.
RKB
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RKB
   Old Thread  #9 29 Nov 2023 at 7.56am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
Go into the tackle shop, buy yourself some hooklink material and some hooks and start practicing. You'll have it nailed in about 10 minutes.

FWIW, my preference is for Korda Dark Matter soft braid and Gardner Muggas, both barbed and barbless in sizes 6 & 4.
daytripper
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daytripper
   Old Thread  #8 28 Nov 2023 at 9.08pm    Login    Register
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Choice Rigs mate would recommend
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #7 28 Nov 2023 at 8.13pm    Login    Register
I'm currently buying the Korum hooks with hair rigs / bait bands for ease and then just using an inline weight or method feeder.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #6 28 Nov 2023 at 8.07pm    Login    Register
Thanks guys, maybe I'm over thinking things?
RKB
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RKB
   Old Thread  #5 28 Nov 2023 at 5.16pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
A basic knotless knot rig is fine for more or less anything!
dannyuk32
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dannyuk32
   Old Thread  #4 28 Nov 2023 at 4.40pm    Login    Register
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A Basic Knotless Knot Rig is fine for fishing on Bottom Baits on the deck.
I'm not sure all these 'fancy' rigs with all their Bells and Whistles will up your catch rate.
I know some really good anglers on hard, low stock, clear, Pits who use the Basic Hair Rig Mono or Braid and do well above average.
If you do want to try a more advanced Rig, as mentioned all the top companies do good ready Rigs now. Go have a look.
I do think you should incorporate a Pop up rig to your fishing if you're fishing over crap\weed on the bottom. And with a stiff material they're also anti tangle so you know you're fishing.
Ronnie Rig is a good choice:-
ReadyMadeRonnie
Fish this with a Helicopter setup, as it will likely present better (you just clip the rig onto the clip on the Leadcore):-
ReadyMadeHeli
Cut swivel off Lead and clip lead onto bottom of the leader clip. Or buy a Heli Lead.
You'll need some Bait Floss and lighter to attach your Bait to the mini Swivel on the Hook.
You could also buy a ready made Multi-Rig, Hinge Rig, IQ-D and clip one of these on instead of a Ronnie.
With that ready made Heli Leader, you're all set. (you can buy them Lead free if Leadcore is banned). Of course you don't have to use Helicopter setups but I think they're more anti tangle.
Try to learn to tie them though.
You can finesse them to suite your fishing better.



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