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In reply to Post #1 OK.
I've had a Nash MF60 standard 5 season for quite a few years now. In the summer/Autumn I just use the system with the sheet on the mattress and either use it double layer or slip into the top layer depending on temps and comfort. In the winter (now) I take the system off and put a fox ventec XL on the bedchair. The Ventec XL is for me the best bag I've ever used in extreme cold and as it's got enough room your always comfortable and warm.
I can't fault it for comfort and adaptability in any way. The only downside of the comfort and luxury is the weight.
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In reply to Post #1 Same as, we bought a memory foam bed, worst move ever, like to be cool when I sleep, red hot
To be fair on a carp bed it’s probably OK. The real problem for me, it’s never thick enough, needs to be 3inch
I have a RH bedchair that has a foam topper, still use an air mat too
Said it before, needs just a flat folding base with a 4 inch deep 3 piece folding foam mattress that drops on it for me , still following classic bed chair designs
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All different types and quality of memory foams and they've supposedly changed a lot over the years.
They have, I can vouch for that. The newer MFM's are a lot better than the old ones, I have both, so that's 1st hand experience.
We have a older style but still medium expensive, it's not the most pleasant in summer as it gets too warm. We have a much newer one which is a pleasure at any time of year. It must be noted that both those have a top sheet to help wick moisture away, you do not sleep directly on the MF. The newer one is significantly thicker than the old one, think it's 28cm.
I noted on the forum many year ago that nothing can help the long term bank angler in winter other than taking along a seperate sleeping bag. The reason, the bags hold moisture and there's nowhere for it to go, expecially when your sat on it in the winter for most of the time.
It's the same in summer in France when your sweating your nads of, I often put the bag over the bivvy to help it out, irrspective of whether I slept in it.
EDIT, Worth noting, we had to send 2 back under the 100 day free trial due to them hurting our hips or back, either too hard (hip pain) or too soft (back pain), third time we got it right.
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In reply to Post #4 You wont find a bed chair made entirely from "highly breathable Natural Fibers" and not many actual mattresses for that matter, apart from some top end stuff, like the website you took that text from.
Each to their own though, I've slept on memory foam mattresses for over 20 years, and I previously worked in the bed industry for 15 years. I wouldn't choose to go back to a sprung mattress at all, my wife on the other hand cant get on with memory foam, so we have a half and half mattress on our bed!!!
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In reply to Post #6 I think you're right in so much they suit some people and not others. We've got a memory foam mattress in our caravan, and I'm not keen on it. I don't find it particularly hot, but often wake up with a bit of back ache. I'm a side sleeper if that makes a difference.
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In reply to Post #1 Memory foam literally saved my back. I used to suffer chronic back pain every morning, despite buying the best orthopaedic mattresses and trying all sorts. Bought a memory foam mattress around 10 years ago and it got massively better overnight. Back is always going to be dodgy but I don’t wake up in pain every day now.
I have a memory foam topper on my bedchair too and it’s miles better for me. I don’t sweat any more than I ever did before either, whether at home or on the bank. I suppose it suits some people and not others - I’m pretty light at 11st so maybe that makes a difference.
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In reply to Post #4 Out of interest, are you sleeping directly on the mattress Gerry, ie on a system, not a separate sleeping bag? I had the mk2 Avid Restbite, but always used it with a bag and never had an issue with overheating at any time of year. I used that for 2-3yrs before I changed beds.
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In reply to Post #2 thats what I thought ?
but apparently its an indisputable fact the way the memory foam is produced it cannot be breathable
First of all, what is it about the memory foam mattress that’s making you heat up? The answer of course lies in what it’s made from. The foam itself is a soft, highly absorbent substance, which was originally designed for NASA aeroplane seats. Essentially the foam can mould to the contours of your body shape to support you as you sleep.
However, in order to do this, the foam needs to soften first by reacting to the heat of your body. Unlike our highly breathable Natural Fibre mattresses, the foam is also completely synthetic, meaning it effectively reflects your body heat back towards you. Essentially you’re lying on a heated surface all night
. It also can’t really help with moisture either; when you start sweating, any moisture remains on the surface, leaving you to wake up hot and clammy.
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In reply to Post #1 I've had one of the original Avid restbite memory foam bed chairs for years, found it very comfortable and not overly hot or cold .
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In reply to Post #1 All different types and quality of memory foams and they've supposedly changed a lot over the years.
That said, I'm not a fan
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When memory foam mattress came out many years ago
I thought I would treat myself and paid a little over £500 for a double one that was at a time the top of the range
you could buy some for £200 but I wanted the best
less than 3 weeks later I got rid of it
it was the summer and as they just do not breath I was waking up wet ?
then recently a good friend said she had an expensive 3inch memory foam topper did I want it or it was going to the charity shop
so I took it cut it to fit on top of my bedchair as it was the start of my back problems but it was just the same shyte !!! sweat like a rapist
so now Solar tackle apparently are bringing out a new bed with this shyte on ??
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