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Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #18 20 Nov 2023 at 12.06pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
A few of the things you mentioned.

The swim, the date, bait and rig.

I'll jot a bit about the weather if its say extremely hot, windy, cold, thunder or prolonged periods of rain. Only do this if i think conditions are outside of what i would consider normal.

I'll note wrapp's only if i find a new spot or an old spot has changed.

I write captures down, weight, common or mirror but probably more important the time of capture.

I also note angling pressure.

Only takes a year or so to build up a story if you get out enough.

I had a low 50 out one September, went in the same swim 12 months later based on my diary, had the exact same fish out again 10 yards from the previous years capture.
Makes interesting reading after a few seasons, you will definitely build up a picture and see trends etc.


If the chance arises get down the lake when its got a lid on, you may learn a massive lesson 😉
Get yourself on Google Earth too 😉
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #17 20 Nov 2023 at 12.01pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Do you know the approximate stock of the lake?
If youíre fishing for 10 carp in 30 acres itís a lot different to fishing for 200 carp in 3 acres. Sounds obvious but will help in managing your own expectations as well as tailoring your approach.

Do you know if other members are catching and where from?
As the weather gets colder the fish will likely be more localised so you will need to work harder on locating them. If you know arras theyíre being caught from the. Try to focus on these areas.

Your eyes are your biggest edge
Watch for evidence of fish - shows, bubbling, clouded up areas, and react to them.

Bite times
Particularly in winter bite times can be very specific. Not all lakes are the same but you will probably find that bites come at specific times. Often (but not always) during the night in the colder months

Water temps
If the lake is shallow, think about where the fish will be most comfortable. Often where the lake gets any sun, sometimes in weedier areas. If the lake is deep, itís often the deeper areas that do bites in the winter.

Bait
Personally unless I know theyíre eating I would go light on bait, possibly solid bags. This allows you to explore the lake without being committed to baited spots. Again everywhere is different but boilie crumb, pellet, hemp, maggots, all good winter baits

It will probably be about experimentation till you start to catch, then you can focus down on specific areas and tactics.

Good luck 😃






SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #16 20 Nov 2023 at 11.53am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
What kind of things are you recording in your diary?

My initial thoughts are as follows

1. Swin number
2. Session Start Time
3. Session End Time
4. Spots fished
5. Bait used (possibly rig)
6. Fish shows location and time
7. Weather (wind, temp etc)
8. Captures

Other than that, im not sure what else you would want to record...
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #15 20 Nov 2023 at 11.45am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #14
Give bright pop ups a go 👍
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #14 20 Nov 2023 at 11.43am    Login    Register
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So what ??
Your the idiot who just like people to bow down and listen to youÖ. dickhead
Anyway not responding to you anymore donít want to waste any breathing time listening to a know it all prat who likes to bully people thought this place was to help people no wonder people wonít post on here at times with dicks like you
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #13 20 Nov 2023 at 11.38am  3  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
I also seem to have got a grip of the lake in the 9 years Iíve been on there on/off I donít follow what others do or tell me,like fish single baits like bright pop ups,I like to do my own things and work it out myself


The above is an extract from a previous post of yours, you really are a clown.🤣
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #12 20 Nov 2023 at 11.15am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
I never apologised
Like I said are you the owner or moderator certainly not to you,you sound like a bully in real life making sure your opinion counts and know one else your not bullying me may work with others but not me
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #11 20 Nov 2023 at 11.12am  3  Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
Thanks for the apology 👍
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #10 20 Nov 2023 at 10.51am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Sorry didnít realise you were in charge of this forum let people speak and have their opinions ffs
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #9 20 Nov 2023 at 10.24am  4  Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
"he doesnt want you to catch" get a grip mate

As for my water, nobody asks or gives advice, probably because there's a certain satisfaction about getting a result off the back of your own work. (not that asking is wrong)

PS, if you re-read (probably not your strongpoint) my post you'll note it's all advice, especially the diary bit.

Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #8 20 Nov 2023 at 9.57am    Login    Register
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Ignore post 5ís advice mate he obviously doesnít want you to catch or do well maybe heís one he doesnít help anyone at a water he fishes
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #7 20 Nov 2023 at 9.56am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
The guys asking for advice thatís all itís upto him if he takes it up and heís already said thanks for the advice thatís the whole point of this forum help each other
SnapSh0ts
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SnapSh0ts
   Old Thread  #6 20 Nov 2023 at 9.40am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
thanks, I haven't asked anyone at the lake for advice because like you say, you just dont know if they are being honest or not and you dont want to go down the wrong rabbit hole.

This is what i have seen so far:
- a lot of people spodding on spots so presuming particle
- I have heard the odd big PVA bag hit the water at night, sounded like a bowling ball hit the water if im honest
- I have been told that the most popular rig on the venue is the ronnie (surprise...)

Watercraft is something i need to work on which is what has prompted this question.

Bait i am using almost exclusively at the moment is CCMoore Live System 15mm boilies.

The approach i have been using so far is cast out to either a gravel spot or smooth feeling spot and using a throwing stick, 2 or 3 handfuls of boilie over the top.
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #5 20 Nov 2023 at 9.33am  4  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Ignore all the pony you'll read on this thread.

You're an angler just go and fish it, it's not work or a millitary exercise, there are no prizes given out at the end.

Keep a diary.

Learn as you go and enjoy.
Canalcarper71
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Canalcarper71
   Old Thread  #4 20 Nov 2023 at 9.18am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #2
Hi mate I would also
do your own thing yes take advice off people but be wary they may be giving you false advice to throw you off,be wary about who you talk to if you tell them youve caught as you may not get a swim or the swim you fish again,also keep bait going in if you can and not be seen doing itÖ..and most important keep at it the rewards will come I think you can learn from a blank session when you try to think what you may have done wrong and what you can do to catch a fish.
Think out side the box as well if people are doing certain things like pva bags of pellets and a boilie try boilie crumb with oils/liquids in bag on bag glugged hook baits etc and also I had people fish bright pop ups try dark ones etc
Being different may catch you a bonus fish or 2 if everyone is fishing more or less the same eg: Spodding particles or boilie approach try pva stringers or a bag/mesh with half a boilie on hair things like that that no oneís really does anymore.
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