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StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #102 9 Dec 2023 at 10.25am  0  Login    Register
Maybe I'll just paint them with some black Hammerite, I've always liked that finish.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #101 8 Dec 2023 at 11.56pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #99
Just sell them and move on, you're never going to be happy with them
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #100 8 Dec 2023 at 11.52pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #99
No
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #99 8 Dec 2023 at 8.21pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #97
Can you remove the green coating to mine?
Butcherboy
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Butcherboy
   Old Thread  #98 8 Dec 2023 at 6.57pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #96
I still have my 3 x 2.75lb NG's. My favourite rods
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #97 8 Dec 2023 at 6.55pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #93
Your original harrisons anglers workshop blanks are coming along nicely 👍
Sgfc
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Sgfc
aka The Combover Kid
   Old Thread  #96 8 Dec 2023 at 10.17am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #95
I still have a pair of these and 3x 2.5lb- wonderful rods. The whole NG range up until the NG+, for me, are fantastic rods. Well worth searching for a well conditioned 2nd hand set.
Butcherboy
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Butcherboy
   Old Thread  #95 7 Dec 2023 at 8.29pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
I used to have a set of Century NG 21/4lb 's
Wish I still had them. Lovely action
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #94 7 Dec 2023 at 2.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #92
I think I would dislike the brown more than the green tbh.

I have a carbon fettish and like the carbon to be plain and showing as much detail of the weave possible.

Unless I find something for a comparable price that I could sell the green ones for I'll probably end up keeping them as apart from the colour they are exactly what I wanted.
lilharbs
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lilharbs
   Old Thread  #93 7 Dec 2023 at 12.21pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #92
Jeffire is building mine as we speak, in the guise of the infamous Baby Sniper spec. Cannot wait to get a bend in them babies 👌
JeffE
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JeffE
   Old Thread  #92 7 Dec 2023 at 11.31am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Go to Mark Tunley and get a pair of 2.25 lbs tc Torrix in chestnut brown with cork handles. Bloody lovely!
Cam
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Cam
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   Old Thread  #91 6 Dec 2023 at 5.48pm  0  Login    Register
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Old Thread #83 21 Nov 2023 at 4.30pm
Not sure if these are what you wanted to see but its the best I could do.
I had to get a 'proper' camera out just to get these.
Flossyrockstar
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Flossyrockstar
   Old Thread  #90 6 Dec 2023 at 4.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
That was my local tackle shop, lived 5 minutes away from it.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #89 22 Nov 2023 at 11.16am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #88
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #88 22 Nov 2023 at 8.09am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #87


Edit, Put 'ultra rare, hard to find' in your ad, maybe 'be quick, don't miss what could be a once in a lifetime chance to own a piece of fishing history' and never mind rare as rocking horse *****, 'Unicorn *****' might just cover the enormity of this opportunity.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #87 22 Nov 2023 at 8.07am  0  Login    Register
Well they'll more than likely be up for sale soon if you like them
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #86 22 Nov 2023 at 6.43am  0  Login    Register
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Badge of honour

...still liking those green blanks
bmthman
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bmthman
   Old Thread  #85 21 Nov 2023 at 8.15pm  0  Login    Register
Look alright to me, only issue is like the old days not scratching the varnish.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #84 21 Nov 2023 at 5.43pm  0  Login    Register
Just use them for nights, nothing to be embarrassment about, they will be fine

Depends if it really bothers you or not, quality blank at the end of the day, or even night
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #83 21 Nov 2023 at 4.30pm  1  Login    Register
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Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #82 20 Nov 2023 at 9.50pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #80
If you don’t like them and paid around £250-300 for the pair I’m sure they would be easy enough to move on for a similar price. I like the green, although that epoxy job would put me off tbh.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #81 20 Nov 2023 at 9.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #74
I'll try to take some images of the tip tomorrow in daylight.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #80 20 Nov 2023 at 9.45pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #78
So not well built then? Bummer.
TBH, I was just so happy I found these in 12ft & 2lb TC.
Maybe I should've taken a much closer look at them but I probablty wouldn't have noticed anyway as this was the 1st pair I had seen.
The fact the the seller wouldn't let me into his house and I had to view them in the dark didn't help I guess.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #79 20 Nov 2023 at 8.25pm  0  Login    Register
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jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #78 20 Nov 2023 at 8.11pm  1  Login    Register
I will say one thing about them .Whoever built them is cack handed as they have epoxied the stainless /ally winding check . Rrp on those new (plain carbon) with cork handles is £325 each so its really what someone would want to pay.
duggs
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   Old Thread  #77 20 Nov 2023 at 7.53pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #75
Its hard to explain how to do it without it sounding complicated but here goes
When I clicked your link to the gallery, opened an image then hit the share button and it gives a choice of links, copy the one 'direct link'.

Then have a look in the test thread in the faqs/help page, I can't actually type the code you need to write without it disappearing when I post


Imgbb is free and has the links available to just post without having to do the coding

>img src=yourlinkhere width=500<
You type this but with the >< the other way round, replace the yourlinkhere with your link
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #76 20 Nov 2023 at 7.52pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #75
Have a read...

https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=145162
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #75 20 Nov 2023 at 7.41pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #73
How did you post an actual photo?
I struggled enough to just get a link
duggs
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   Old Thread  #74 20 Nov 2023 at 7.17pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #72
Just the area after the weave stops if you can, to show how it looks on the plain non woven carbon

Tricky I know
duggs
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   Old Thread  #73 20 Nov 2023 at 7.08pm  0  Login    Register
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #72 20 Nov 2023 at 7.08pm  0  Login    Register
Do you want another photo of the tip section?
How close, what do you specifically want to see?
duggs
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   Old Thread  #71 20 Nov 2023 at 6.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #67
Try and find an image of a ballista blank(or ask stevieB nicelyfor a close up of the tip section) , the green looks better with the ud carbon finish, just the way the random flecks catch the light looks really cool, nicer than the woven pattern imo
zinno
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   Old Thread  #70 20 Nov 2023 at 6.11pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #68
They look great
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #69 20 Nov 2023 at 6.07pm  0  Login    Register
I have no idea if I paid the going rate or over the top for these.
Anyone have any idea what the pair would be worth?
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #68 20 Nov 2023 at 6.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #66
You should be able to see them with this link.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fwCf4pG
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #67 20 Nov 2023 at 5.10pm  0  Login    Register
I like them too, you've got me keeping an eye out for a set..
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #66 20 Nov 2023 at 5.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #63
Post a few pictures...

https://imgbb.com/ use full size html
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #65 20 Nov 2023 at 5.01pm  0  Login    Register
Am I the only person that doesn't like them then? lol
Yep I like them too, nice old skool look to them
Stands out from the sheep like me that just have boring black
...to be fair, mine are gloss, I like that too, not much in fashion either!
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
aka Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #64 20 Nov 2023 at 4.38pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #63
Thankfully I prefer function over fashion every day
but your money your choice
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #63 20 Nov 2023 at 4.27pm  0  Login    Register
Am I the only person that doesn't like them then? lol

Unless I get my head around the colour, I'll probably be selling them on ebay next year.

If I do that though, my mission will start all over again and it took long enough to find these ones.
Sgfc
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Sgfc
aka The Combover Kid
   Old Thread  #62 20 Nov 2023 at 3.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #59
Love those!
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #61 20 Nov 2023 at 3.13pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #58
Yeah they are older graphics love that colour beautiful rods them.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #60 20 Nov 2023 at 3.00pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #59
Nice looking rods
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #59 20 Nov 2023 at 1.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #45
I've posted some links to the rod in the Tarty Tackle Section
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #58 20 Nov 2023 at 1.29pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #57
Hopefully this works ?!?

Below should be a link to images of one of the rods

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fwCf4pG

duggs
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   Old Thread  #57 20 Nov 2023 at 1.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #54
Could have been custom or just ordered from harrisons via a shop. I really liked the green blanks but didn't think they looked right with cork, and since I prefer Cork handles I tended to go with burgundy or chestnut
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #56 20 Nov 2023 at 1.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #55
Same....its one of my best bits of kit..such fun ,especially in colder times ,use it for anything with fins..so sensitive...slightest knock,etc

You never know there could be a swingtip revival, apart from Dave Kelly,the only firm you could get a off the shelf ,new swingtip rod,was Tricast,but I fear they have been discontinued..

Or a old one off of ebay..or Jeff on here,if he does them.
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #55 20 Nov 2023 at 2.16am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
As Jeff has pointed out. I recently looked into having a swing tip rod made up on a North Western blank, that would have been newly built but on a 30 odd year old blank.
All above board, just old stock blanks.

It's more common than you think, just not really in the 'next best thing' world of Carp spin!
Belch
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Belch
   Old Thread  #54 19 Nov 2023 at 10.03pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
Put some photos up - unless they've been custom made never seen Torrix in a green blank - what type of reel seats are on the rods?
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #53 19 Nov 2023 at 7.40pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
I know the rods were 'used' but the seller said they were two years old. They looked black / carbon in the photos and when I collected them ( in the dark, he wouldn't let me in the house) they looked black / carbon as well.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #52 19 Nov 2023 at 7.37pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #46
100% agree. I fish now primarily to relax and stare at the lake I'm fishing and obviously the rods are in front of the lake.
These 2lb (or even the 2.25) are perfect for me so at least thats a bonus. Maybe I'll get used to them or I might even get over being an idiot for being so shallow ... Who knows.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #51 19 Nov 2023 at 7.33pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #45
I didn't even know there was a 'tarty tackle section', I'll take a look.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #50 19 Nov 2023 at 7.31pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #43
I 100% agree that this is a style over substance issue.

The rods are great and just what I wanted and I think I got them for a fair price.

I'm just sure I like the look of them, they look black in low light but when the sun gets on them they are clearly green.
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #49 19 Nov 2023 at 7.11pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #48
The reason he told you is because you may have wanted to buy another in the future.Obviously he would not have been able to supply one. Im always upfront with customers if i have a few blanks i could,nt supply other than the ones i have.
kizzi
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   Old Thread  #48 19 Nov 2023 at 6.31pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
That could be true. I had a “new” rod built for me by Bob Morris on a Fibatube 1lb 4oz blank that they had stopped making a decade before.

You could debate whether I had bought a “new” rod.

Being Bob he was completely honest and told me this when I was testing different blanks so it was all in the open. Lovely guy but maybe not a hard edged businessman!
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #47 19 Nov 2023 at 4.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #43
You like what you like, if someone gave me a Lamborghini, I'd sell it and buy a Ferrari, or
more likely a 4 wheel drive Transit. Love it, like it it's personal choice.
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #46 19 Nov 2023 at 2.31pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
If you don't like them get rid. Imagine hours of staring at them thinking I'm not really happy, its not worth it disturbing your valuable down time, irrespective of whether they're perfect for the job.
Next time ask for pics before buying....at least you know the blanks right for you, take the positive
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #45 19 Nov 2023 at 1.28pm  1  Login    Register
You could take a picture of your new rods on your pod and post it in the tarty tackle thread. There hasn’t been a post there for a while. You would get some fair minded and constructive suggestions on the look of it.
CTblahblah
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CTblahblah
   Old Thread  #44 19 Nov 2023 at 11.53am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
Most barbel rods are black like carp rods, including 99% of Torrix'. Cork handles are pretty standard though.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #43 19 Nov 2023 at 9.59am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
Mate that is literally style over substance. You've got some top tier rods there
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #42 19 Nov 2023 at 9.37am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
I know, but I'm really shallow and wanted a more modern black carbon weave look.

Although they are in fantastic condition and perfect for my needs, I think I may have to sell them and buy a pair that look more like one of my Free Spirit rods. (I know, I'm an idiot)

That'll teach me to buy rods in the dark.
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #41 18 Nov 2023 at 5.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
Does,nt matter they will last forever
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #40 18 Nov 2023 at 2.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
damn, the guy who sold them to me said they were only 2 years old
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #39 18 Nov 2023 at 9.54am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
No difference between barbel rods and carp rods its just a name. The 2lb torrix specialist and 2lb carp are the same blank and a fantastic blank it is. Carbon does,nt come in colours its painted and varnished. They must be fairly old harrisons stopped painting green a long time ago only burgundy colour is available now. Im not a fan of painted blanks they scratch fairly easily however the green looks good.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #38 18 Nov 2023 at 9.43am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
Yes. Very dark green with cork handles.
They are advertised as Barbel rods. I guess this is the norm for Barbel rods?
Muz
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   Old Thread  #37 17 Nov 2023 at 9.40pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
Like the diana story 😊
jeffire
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jeffire
   Old Thread  #36 17 Nov 2023 at 8.11pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
Green carbon ?
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #35 17 Nov 2023 at 8.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
I have some green carbon Avon / barbel rods and love the look especially with full cork
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #34 17 Nov 2023 at 8.01pm  0  Login    Register
So I tried the the Harrison Torrix 12ft 2lb rods today. Only managed to bank 1 carp to around 11lb and they seem perfect for my needs. Great action combining the right amount of power and bend.

My only nagging thought and 1st world problem, is that I don't like the green carbon. lol

I got my Free Spirit CTX float rod out and just love the way it looks in comparison.

I know its wrong but I'm debating if I can keep them.
fairweather
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fairweather
   Old Thread  #33 17 Nov 2023 at 10.39am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
Free Spirit's S range big river barbel rod, code RBR108 uses the same blank as KS in their S range of carp rods. Website says it's a 2.25lb test, but, reality is it feels more.
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #32 15 Nov 2023 at 1.15pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #31
When I used to stay up there,I used my grandparents address to fish a fair few places..
I'd mainly go up for 6 week holidays..one place I did fish a lot ,was Diana fountain..,Cannon Hill Common.. and Watermeads ,which is next to what was grandparents place..

On Diana ,early 80s I met and chatted to a young guy,very keen with glasses then, he is quite well known now they say..!

Totally different world to where I live/grown up...had good memories tho..!
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #31 15 Nov 2023 at 1.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
I wondered if anyone on here would remember that shop let alone on this thread, how weird is that? 😁

Don't bother going back, there's nothing to see anymore the shop is now part of a house.
Your'e right, Sutton is not what it was 40 years ago. It's proper outer London now and I do anything I can not to go there tbh.
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #30 15 Nov 2023 at 12.40pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
Kenny Collings,Charlie Taylor,Paul'Tommy 'Hillier. Go through the door ,'alright my son'

Remember that shop,as I'd visit it twice a year as my grandparents/had several properties in that area..no tackleshops back then where I lived,zero ,none...so was a big deal for me to visit that shop ,5 hour drive in the 70s/80s.

Apart from a KC angling 12ft match,all my rods I made myself ,even had the black continental box from KC.

(Hence my nickname,as I was always falling in the river which ran through their property ,looking for sticklebacks)

Often thought about going back for a look see,probably get stabbed now...lol
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #29 15 Nov 2023 at 9.31am  0  Login    Register
I was a teenager when I built mine and had all the time in the world. It amazes me that I actually did it tbh. No YouTube videos or anything to tell me wha to do. Luckily I had a a very friendly tackle shop that not only supplied all the kit but helped me with advice. (Anyone remember KC (Ken Collins) Angling in Sutton & Ian Heaps?)

Applying cork rings, rubbing them into shape, whipping the eyes on, applying 'dope' to tighten the whipping and then varnish. I still look at it with pride and amazement tbh
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #28 15 Nov 2023 at 8.22am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
I wasn't imagining it then, thank you
@ Stevie, I think given the pace of life and instant result culture of modern fishing, especially Carp fishing, building your own rods is falling away towards rod builders.
I seem to remember Noj on here has built a few for himself and there are a few rod builders on the forum. I'd love to give it a go, but could I live with any imperfections....knowing me...no
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #27 14 Nov 2023 at 5.31pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
I remember a family member using the Daiwa interline rods on Orchid in the 90s,..2.5tc,I remember..

I recall him saying they were not great ,especially with a leader so he'd boat the rigs out from the middles..

As said also Fox also did similar ,it may have been called Twig,the version I seen were 6ft ,and used in jungle warfare,...tight swims..

You had to set them up using a pole threader,was a pain in bot to set them..up

Great idea,didn't stay around long..
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #26 14 Nov 2023 at 5.31pm  0  Login    Register
Thanks for all the info

Weirdly, the Harrison Torrix 2lb rods I've just bought are supposed to be barbel rods but there is only 1 ring on the butt section like a carp rod.

I was expecting 2 rings on the butt section for a barbel rod?

Does anyone make their own rods these days or does everyone who wants a bespoke rod go to a specialised rod builder?

When I was a teenager, I made my first proper fishing rod. I bought a blank, cork, eyes and whipping and just put it all together. It's still in my loft too!
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #25 14 Nov 2023 at 4.59pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
There is or was a fuji eye ringing concept somewhere that more and smaller eyes helps with casting and rod playing action
and then there was.... you alter the rods action by adding more eyes and double legged eyes are the spawn of the devil, especially the larger the ring the larger the foot...and there we go...full circle

IIRC from the 90's was it Shimano that took it one step further with that rod that had no eyes and the line went through the blank...god the old grey matter's in trouble, can I remember a thing today
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #24 14 Nov 2023 at 4.45pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
I can't remember exactly but something like less frap or slap helping the line spool off quicker which helps casting. That said, it will depend on the rod and reel also.

There is or was a fuji eye ringing concept somewhere that more and smaller eyes helps with casting and rod playing action. My baby ballistas have 30mm butt eye i think and about 8 in total.

Edit - https://www.harrisonrods.co.uk/Fuji%20New%20Guide%20Concept.htm
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #23 14 Nov 2023 at 3.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
More the question, line coil being relative to reel spool size and one of the main reasons for larger rings with larger reels (apart from reduced friction)...why even go 30mm with a 2500/3000/4000 size reel which would typically be used on a lower TC rod?
RKB
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RKB
   Old Thread  #22 14 Nov 2023 at 3.10pm  0  Login    Register
Apart from weight (negligible) what specific benefits does a 30mm butt ring have over a 40mm ring?
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #21 14 Nov 2023 at 3.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
There's no such thing as a stuid question mate
Zack and wandle pretty much sum it up.

If you go to a specialist rod builder (I went to Mark Tunley for my Barbel rods for example as he has a lot of river experience) when you start talking blanks you'll be given options you probably don't know about if coming from generic factory built rods. For example most Carp rods are rung with a 40mm butt which is complete overkill for a lower TC rod and most are rung with only 1 on the butt, whereas you migh be advised for 2 for a river rod and more up top.

There are all sorts of technical arguments for more or less ringing and there are some very knowledgeable builders and anglers on the forum who could give you that detail, if it interests you or you could contact a specialist builder for a natter. I don't think it makes a jot of difference to the fish but if your so inclined it's a interesting subject


wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #20 14 Nov 2023 at 12.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
Your right about ringing configurations, I have 9 eyes ,30mm being the largest ,..on the Armalites, and 6 on the freespirits ..
Zack
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   Old Thread  #19 14 Nov 2023 at 11.39am  2  Login    Register
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>>>This is where I'm probably going to sound a little stupid, but can you explain the difference in the way the rings are set differently for carp fishing please?<<<

There is no specific way for how a rod should be rung for any type of fishing. The trend these days for carp fishing is just about 5 or 6 large eyes with a very large butt eye, all designed for distance casting.

But years ago, it was the traditional style ringing like you would find on any rod and still do, lots of eyes, it just seems carp fishing has changed and its presumed everyone wants to cast baits as far as they can, but, even so, a traditional rung carp rod will still easily hit 100 yards, so basically, carp rods have become a specialist tool for hitting big distances and most people do not fish long distance, but the industry seems to have forgot about those people who only fish close in and up to and around 100 yards and manufacture traditional rung rods for the run of the mill carp angler

Myself I use 3 pike rods through action 3lb test curve traditionally rung and they are a delight to use for carp fishing, they have a very soft action designed for casting soft baits long distances, brilliant for playing fish as the rod arcs over nicely but plenty of power in the butt to stop fish dead in the tracks, because of the soft action I have never had a hook pull from an angry carp close in when it bolts from the net and most importantly I find, they are not tip heavy due to all the small eyes on it, unlike the "Beachcasters" with large eyes so a pleasure to stand holding for long periods of time when stalking.

I think about the only way these days to get a set of traditional rung rods is custom built or go outside the box and buy, Avon rods, Barbel rods or pike rods etc. But, many years ago, a rod could be used for many disciplines so long as they was strong enough for the task and not too strong, for example what was called a Avon rod was used for Roach, Chub Barbel etc and my carp rods not just covered carp fishing, but also eel fishing, pike fishing and even light sea fishing etc

The 80's, my main car rods were only 1 3/4 TC traditionally rung and could handle fish up to 25lb easily in open water with no snags, but, I could use them also for barbel, tench, eels etc and to this day, still use them for that purpose

But then, manufactures decided to give rods names based on what fish the angler was fishing but basically the rod was the same and can be used for anything you fish for.

wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #18 14 Nov 2023 at 11.23am  1  Login    Register
Freespirit CTX, in 2.5 tc are fabulous players rods..they play carp really well ,and are a joy ,a lovely rod.

But....Armalites ,in low test curves take some beating for enjoyment. And are my personal choice now..
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #17 14 Nov 2023 at 10.05am  0  Login    Register
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Good decision. I have the same rods, they are a pleasure to use
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #16 14 Nov 2023 at 8.44am  0  Login    Register
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This is where I'm probably going to sound a little stupid, but can you explain the difference in the way the rings are set differently for carp fishing please?
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #15 14 Nov 2023 at 5.45am  0  Login    Register
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I think you'll love them, Harrison make some cracking rods. Like Belch, my lower tc Torrix are rung for Barbel but it was always my intention to use them for lighter Carp work too.
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
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   Old Thread  #14 14 Nov 2023 at 2.56am  0  Login    Register
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you can never go wrong buying Harrison rods you bought well
the latest linky poo
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #13 13 Nov 2023 at 9.53pm  0  Login    Register
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Sorry I didn't get it at first.
I thought I'd f**ked up with buying the Harrison rods .... phew
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #12 13 Nov 2023 at 9.05pm  0  Login    Register
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If you was actually replying to Zack instead of your own post, he was taking the P as you typed barbell like the weight lifting bars....... Just a joke
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #11 13 Nov 2023 at 8.51pm  0  Login    Register
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Sorry I'm confused by your comment. What are you trying to say, the Harrison Torrix 2lb is a hard rod to bend?
Zack
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   Old Thread  #10 13 Nov 2023 at 10.41am  0  Login    Register
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>>>>>buying a barbell rod for carp fishing.<<<<<

Wow that's a bit extreme, that would need something like the QE2 to put a good bend in it, 6' of steel capable of lifting 320kg and just putting a slight bend in it.

What are your usual "Rods"?
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #9 12 Nov 2023 at 8.09pm  1  Login    Register
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So I've just bought a used Harrison Torrix 2lb 12ft ... lets hope it meets my needs

In fact, it came as a pair so I paid way more than I initially thought
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #8 10 Nov 2023 at 6.22pm  0  Login    Register
Thanks Guys!
Belch
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Belch
   Old Thread  #7 10 Nov 2023 at 12.00pm  2  Login    Register
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May be out of budget but Torrix 12' 2.25 - mine are ringed for barbel but you could get them set up differently - lovely progressive action with some welly in the butt for the bigger fish
manic
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manic
   Old Thread  #6 10 Nov 2023 at 11.13am  1  Login    Register
Harrison ballista slams
lilharbs
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lilharbs
   Old Thread  #5 9 Nov 2023 at 9.25pm  1  Login    Register
The FS CTX rods are lovely for the money, you won’t go wrong with that and you will get a great scrap on a 2lb TC barbel rod 👌
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #4 9 Nov 2023 at 6.23pm  1  Login    Register
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I was actually looking at one of the Free Spirit Barbel CTX rods.

I know its a 'mind game' thing but I was struggling to get my head around buying a barbell rod for carp fishing.



As I want a cork handle my choices seem to be more limited and pushing me the barbel rod route
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #3 9 Nov 2023 at 4.32pm  1  Login    Register
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Drennan tench and bream 2lb t.c.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #2 9 Nov 2023 at 4.05pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at some of the barbel rods.
I have just got a pair of the korum 2.5lb barbel rods and they would be ideal, and less than £50 a rod.
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #1 9 Nov 2023 at 2.19pm  1  Login    Register
Hi All

I'm looking for a 12ft full cork handled relatively low TC rod (by todays standards) something perhaps between 2lb and 2.75lb.

I don't need to cast any great distance and I prefer using lighter tackle and a fuller action rod for fish up to high teems or perhaps low twenties. (My PB is 17lb taken off the top with using a 12ft S Free Spirit CTX Waggler rod)

Looking to spend to a max £180

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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