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diggingahole
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diggingahole
   Old Thread  #46 30 May 2024 at 4.31pm  0  Login    Register
depends on what your looking to spend

https://hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk/hyundai-hps-300-portable-power-station
jimimak
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jimimak
   Old Thread  #45 30 May 2024 at 4.02pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #44
Just adding a follow-up to my earlier post about winter fishing with CPAP over winter.

I ended up getting a new CPAP machine from the hospital (Philips dreamstation 2) and with this one the hose came out the front rather than the side, which made me think - how about putting it inside the sleeping bag with me.

Huge CAVEAT here - Im no medical expert and I dont know the risks of putting the CPAP inside the sleeping bag - so get proper advice perhaps ?

But, it worked for me - I had an old Nash Frostbite wideboy bag I used instead as there was a lot more room in it than my Fortis tech lite - and the RM battery pack at the bottom of the bag by my feet. I also put an additional single duvet between the two top layers of the frostbite as it's not as warm as the tech lite - but to be honest - I was too hot with the duvet as well. But - no problem with freezing cold air being blown up my hooter.

There was however one major flaw - not a show stopper, more an unpleasant feature of my solution - but if you're wondering, even when asleep I still woke up gagging after letting rip, then proceeded to piss myself laughing at my little faux pas - so if you do decide to give it a try - avoid the beans/curry or anything else that might result in any noxious gasses being emitted from your arris.

Hopefully that gave you all a giggle

scar
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   Old Thread  #44 29 May 2024 at 1.21pm  0  Login    Register
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I now use an Allpowers powerpack to run my Philips Dreamstation and can for 5 nights without solar panel but, longer with the solar panel and charge my phone from it every day.
A light lighter than lugging a 120ah leisure battery everywhere !
The Power pack cost £90 and solar panel £99 both from Ebay.
Mculk
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Mculk
   Old Thread  #43 29 May 2024 at 10.35am  0  Login    Register
Just thought I'd bump this back up for anyone interested, since needing a Cpap machine, I invested in a outlaw pro power pack, it's around 72000mah I get 3 nights use powering a resmed 10 with a little left over, I unplug in after use and only plug it back in before I wear the mask. These outlaw pro packs seem to be out of stock but basically the same power pack is on fish ideal for about £150, so far does exactly what its supposed to, half the price at the time of the ridge monkey although it is slightly less mah too
Glad I saw this post in the beginning as it gee'd me up to take my Cpap with me, event though it's extra weight to take etc.

Hopefully this helps someone deciding if they should take their Cpap machine, you definitely should and I was daft for thinking I should risk it like I used to. Although my sleep apnea is mild, I don't go overnight without it

scar
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   Old Thread  #42 18 Nov 2023 at 9.30am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
I am in the same boat as yourself and have given Winter nights a miss for some years now for the same reason as you, come November I am days only until March or April.

I have recently purchased an Allpowers 288w power station refurbished by manufacturer on ebay for £94 and it lasts me for 6 nights on my Dreamstation CPAP device and I managed to inflate my barrow wheel as well with it, I purchased it primarily for overnight stops in Hotels with no available power points on my way down through France as they look at you a little strangely humping a massive leisure battery into the Hotel.
JasonM
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JasonM
   Old Thread  #41 13 Nov 2023 at 1.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
I’m not a sufferer but that’s a great contribution 👍🏼
jimimak
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jimimak
   Old Thread  #40 13 Nov 2023 at 11.42am  4  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Just reviving an old(ish) thread.

I too suffer from OSA and use CPAP. I personally use the Ridgemonkey power pack for mine with the 12V cigarette lighter - works well for me and I can get 4 nights on it no problem. I also have 4 Makita 18V batteries, and Ive built my own box with a 12V DC regulator and cigarette lighter socket - I can usually get 2 nights on each 5A 18V battery - so more than enough for a week in France. But, if you don't have those, then something like a 110a/h 12v leisure battery should last you a week - just use a cigarette lighter socket on a lead with crocodile clips.

Whatever you do, don't go using a 240v inverter in a bivvy - not only are they extremely inefficient (i.e. waste energy) they're extremely dangerous to use in a wet bivvy. Most CPAP machines are powered off a 12V DC power supply, its just a case of getting the lead - if you can get the connectors yourself they're easy to make, or just buy from the manufacturer if they supply them.

Avoid using the humidifiers too - they use too much power, unless of course you have a BFO leisure battery, then fill your boots. I just disconnect the humidifier, but most have the option to switch them off to save power from the battery.

Another option if you have the means is to buy a travel CPAP machine, just google them - there's plenty online.

Only issue is winter fishing. I haven't yet found a solution to this problem. It doesn't matter how warm you are in your sleeping bag, if your CPAP is pushing 16L/min of cold air through your nose into your lungs you're going to get cold from the inside out. I haven't fished for several years though winter for just that reason. In fact last weekend I tried again - new water so keen as - on the first night I managed to drift off but woke in agony, I can not begin to describe the pain in my nose as it felt like it was literally frozen from all the 3 degree outside air being pushed though it whilst I slept. I ended up not using it for a couple of nights and felt like absolute **** in the mornings and most of the day. Mind you I do have quite severe OSA - when I was first diagnosed they said I was getting no more than 6 mins sleep per night - my AHI is now well below 5 on CPAP - so that means on CPAP I'm fine.

Ive also tried several MAD (Mandibular Advancement Devices) - its like a gum shield but on your top and bottom teeth and they're fixed together and usually adjustable but they force your bottom jaw forwards, in theory to open up your airway, but you end up looking like bruce Forsyth and I couldn't get on with them, even expensive privately made ones. Ive also tried the surgical route (and I really don't recommend that - I'll spare you all the details but anyone considering it please do PM me)

So other than powering your CPAP - I just wondered what you do (other than not using it) in the winter - I haven't yet found an effective way of warming up the air the CPAP pushes into you - would be grateful to hear from anyone that's solved it ? powering an electric heater will probably be a non-starter as it'd need a huge battery or even a bank of batteries ....I was wondering about of one of those diesel heaters they use on campa vans - perhaps putting it in some other shelter away from my bivvy with some flexible ventilation ducting into a box I put the CPAP into - but I have no experience of those diesel heaters - other than watching YouTube videos - I was a little concerned they might be a bit noisy - but, then again, unlikely to be as noisy as me snoring and gasping for air without CPAP. Or even something that could be powered by a gas canister - although don't want to relight the gas powered heated blanket debate - but did wonder if there was some kind of safe small gas boiler that could heat a small radiator inside an insulated box to warm the air into the CPAP ?
2ndChance
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2ndChance
   Old Thread  #39 6 Mar 2023 at 9.03pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
Very sad news indeed

I too, have been a naughty lad, and don´t use my Resmed 10, when spending nights on the bank So this thread has really been an eye opener. I will definately, from now on, always use mine on the bank
domemanuk
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domemanuk
   Old Thread  #38 4 Mar 2023 at 5.20pm  0  Login    Register
I have sleep apnea and use a resmed machine every night when fishing I use the large ridgemonkey and the large fox power packs when one goes down to 2lights I change both last approx 3 nights
biffta
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biffta
   Old Thread  #37 4 Mar 2023 at 11.47am  2  Login    Register
KFD DC to DC 12V-24V Vehicle Charger Car Cigarette Lighter Adapter for ResMed AirSense 10 Autoset/Autoset for HER/AirSense S10 Elite/AirSense 10 CPAP BiPAP Machine Car Charger DC 24V 3.75A https://amzn.eu/d/jh8yWCT

This is lead I ordered off amazon

Good luck 👍
Mculk
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Mculk
   Old Thread  #36 1 Mar 2023 at 7.21am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
I pick my machine up tomorrow, been waiting months for the appointment so hopefully all going well I'll be able to work out what adaptors etc I need, good to see some advice on what powerbanks etc guys are using, when I first found out I needed a machine I started to think maybe id have to change the fishing I do, to just maybe days and places that have 240v. Luckily that doesn't seem the case
The only downside is the initial outlay on the powerbanks etc but if I need them to carry on then so be it
biffta
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biffta
   Old Thread  #35 28 Feb 2023 at 4.25pm  2  Login    Register
I have sleep apnea and I use the airsence 10 machine I got a 12 volt lead off amazon for £28 and the large ridgemonkey power pack
It will run my machine for 4 nights no problem and charge my phone no problem
Its nice to know im not o my own
Ddw
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   Old Thread  #34 10 Feb 2023 at 1.02pm  0  Login    Register
Sounds like you want something that isn’t going to die on you . EcoFlow River is where I ended up for longer trips . Coupled with a solar panel it does everything, phones , boat pump , even the electric outboard. Best buy for years.
scar
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   Old Thread  #33 9 Feb 2023 at 5.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #31
Snoring is not the problem, stopping breathing is the problem therefore, I don't see that device being of any use at all.
Steveo_Hants
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   Old Thread  #32 9 Feb 2023 at 9.45am  0  Login    Register
I use a ResMed CPAP machine and got one of their portable batteries. Cost a fortune but it's small and light and gives me 2 short nights on the bank. I have also used a Jackery Explorer 240 when I need an extra night or 2.
BILLYTHEFISH
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BILLYTHEFISH
   Old Thread  #31 9 Feb 2023 at 9.03am  0  Login    Register
Hi All
I also suffer with sleep Apnea its fairly common now.

Has anyone used one of these ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Anti%E2%80%91Snoring-Electric-Recyclable-Snoring/dp/B09J2N3T7Z/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=cpap%2Bmachine&qid=1675932978&sr=8-11&th=1

Bill
turnerswfc
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turnerswfc
   Old Thread  #30 8 Feb 2023 at 1.08pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Go for the large (77850) or medium (42150) RidgeMonkey one. Jay Cater uses these for his CPAP machine, as do a good number of others that I know. They come as standard with the 12V slot too.
MarkV
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   Old Thread  #29 7 Feb 2023 at 7.46am  0  Login    Register
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I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea 3 years ago, I was suffering from lack of Oxygen to the extent of waking up with bad headaches every morning. That drove me to get help.

Using the CPAP machine was life changing for me, within a few days no headaches and my energy levels returned. I was feeling so much better.

Took me a couple of month sto try it when fishing. I use a Resmed machine, Resmed require 24v so be aware that from a 12v battery you'll need an adapter to up the voltage and like every thing medical related the prices of kit are eyewatering.

For most trips, I use Tracer lithium 8ah battery which lasts couple of nights and is light weight. When I go to fishing abroad I take a second, bigger battery 12ah. BYTW, I do not use a humidifer, as it consumes a lot more power.

One tip, the first time I used the CPAP machine, I had a run in he middle of the night. And with out thinking lept out of my bivvy, forgetting I was wearing the mask. The ensuing chaos of me dragging the mask, tubing and machine out with me taught me a lesson, you do need to be better organised! Was funny afterwards.

Its not a big deal now that I am used to the machine and have a routine. I have used the CPAP for long trips, over two weeks in France and even when mahseer fishing in India.

Final tip, be careful and keep the machine dry.

Mark.


Mculk
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Mculk
   Old Thread  #28 6 Feb 2023 at 7.50am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
I fully appreciate that and i am not taking it lightly, and open to any advice from anyone who suffers I'm all ears to find out how you get on with your fishing etc this is all new to myself and I'm just trying to get my head around it.
I haven't had any feedback of how many times I stop etc, I'm presuming that info will be given to me next month when I have the appointment to trail a machine, it's given me questions to ask and I was working on a best case of maybe being able to fish without it if the Drs says it's ok, I'm not being naive and think I already known what they will say, I'm just trying to be optimistic, if I need to get powerpacks or have to change my fishing to suit then so be it,
I'm fully with you I don't want to be that angler either who died on the bank through my own negligence and put someone in a position of finding me. Appreciate the feedback
scar
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   Old Thread  #27 6 Feb 2023 at 6.32am  0  Login    Register
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A very tragic story of a 35 year old Dad who was diagnosed with Sleep Apnoea on January 9th but he did not like hearing bad news so he did not go back for a follow up, and sadly passed away in this sleep last week 😥

His devastated wife, Yvonne, wants this sharing as she has pleaded with anyone suffering from sleep apnoea to go to follow up appointments and wear their sleep masks as the condition can be fatal. She also hopes that by sharing the family’s story that others will take notice and be aware of the dangers the condition can pose.

Yvonne added: “I feel I need to make people aware that if they have those masks they need to wear them. I have a friend who has them and they only sometimes wear it but it is so important that it is worn all the time when sleeping. 'Biggie' was diagnosed but was so stubborn and did not go for a follow up. By then it was too late."

Thanks for raising awareness Yvonne, even during this devastating time for your whole family. RIP Lee ('Biggie') and sincere thoughts to all the family ❤️❤️

Sad story however, I thought I would share just to show folk that are unaware of the condition of how it can go.
scar
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   Old Thread  #26 5 Feb 2023 at 10.18pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Hope2sleep sell that power system.

Good luck whatever you choose.
Busted
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   Old Thread  #25 5 Feb 2023 at 9.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #2
I actually spoke to him about this on behalf of a friend who has just been diagnosed. The big power pack lasts him 3 nights, you just need a 12v travel adapter for the machine
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #24 5 Feb 2023 at 9.52pm  0  Login    Register
Been doing some digging online and apparently the powerpack atom pro is recommended for use with CPAP machines so that could be one for me to look at.
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #23 5 Feb 2023 at 9.42pm  0  Login    Register
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Yes unfortunately on my sleep survey one hour I stopped breathing 62 times 😂 I just struggle sleeping without it now, I did a few overnighters last year and didn’t sleep at all, I even have to use it if I have a nap at home, I just snore really bad and wake myself up. It will mainly be for one night so 6-8 hours tops really.
scar
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   Old Thread  #22 5 Feb 2023 at 4.34pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
If you are diagnosed as needing a CPAP, not using it for a couple of nights is not a wise move.
As inconvenient ad they may be, they are used for a reason and I for one don't want to be the Angler that died in his sleep on the bank.
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #21 5 Feb 2023 at 3.08pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
One of the big benefits of the new ecoflow models is the crazy quick 1hour full recharge time from mains power. Potentially reduces it's lifespan but in standard speed recharging mode it's got a 80% life expectancy of 10years of being recharged each and every day. (or something very similar lol)
mrfreeze
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mrfreeze
   Old Thread  #20 5 Feb 2023 at 2.57pm  0  Login    Register
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Have a look at ecoflow power stations
They aren't cheep but they do come highly recommended from camper van users, boaters and campers.
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #19 5 Feb 2023 at 2.26pm  0  Login    Register
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Mculk
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Mculk
   Old Thread  #18 5 Feb 2023 at 12.01pm  0  Login    Register
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I'm going to keep an eye on this thread, I've just completed a sleep survey and now need to go trial a CPAP machine and have an appointment next month, this is something I didn't even think of, but it's given me the chance to ask questions at the appointment, I'm unsure of the severity of the conditions I've got but I'm sure I'll find out at the appointment, I've had no feedback from the survey bar the hospital letter to trail a machine. hopefully I may be able to not have to use for a night or 2 but if not I can look into what I'll need to power the machine etc.

MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #17 5 Feb 2023 at 11.41am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
Yep, 40 times an hour, not 40 times a night lol
braders1978
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   Old Thread  #16 5 Feb 2023 at 11.38am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
An hour not a night
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #15 5 Feb 2023 at 11.35am  0  Login    Register
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Er stopping breathing 40 times in a night!!! Wowzers
MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #14 5 Feb 2023 at 11.06am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
I too suffer with obstructive sleep apnoea, but only generally fish for two nights at a time and for that I will just live without my cpap machine. My case may not be as severe as yours though. At my last overnight sleep study, I stopped breathing 40 times an hour, which is every 90 seconds.
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #13 5 Feb 2023 at 9.25am  0  Login    Register
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Step away from the forum and go to bed…
scar
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   Old Thread  #12 5 Feb 2023 at 9.01am  0  Login    Register
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OK, I am out in the open !

I too have SOSA and use a CPAP all the time even whilst Fishing.
I generally Fish for between 2 and 10 nights at a time and the only viable solution I have come up with is a 12v lead from a company called Hope2sleep and a 12 volt leisure battery and couple them together with a female cigarette type socket on to crocodile clips and I have never ran out of power. It is incredibly heavy and awkward however, the only solution for me.

I hope this helps.
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #11 5 Feb 2023 at 8.18am  0  Login    Register
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_positive_airway_pressure
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #10 5 Feb 2023 at 8.00am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
I think you might have misunderstood what the original poster was asking for.
If he’s taking a CPAP machine into the office then I want a job like his, cos it sounds very relaxing.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #9 5 Feb 2023 at 7.52am  0  Login    Register
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Oh dear
duggs
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   Old Thread  #8 5 Feb 2023 at 6.02am  0  Login    Register
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Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #7 5 Feb 2023 at 3.09am  0  Login    Register
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Blimey, we're supposed to be going fishing and getting away from modern life.
I'm not sure if working from home is a good thing, but if you are going to take all of your office to the bank then that's a step too far IMO.
Life was so much simpler when you used to go to work and fish on days when you didn't have work.
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #6 4 Feb 2023 at 11.27pm  0  Login    Register
There are plenty of 240v supplying power stations available

A typical cpap machine may average at about 40w
A cheapish power station with 320 watt hours would run this for up to 8 hours

Realistically with some losses of power conversion and maybe the cpap running at a higher wattage, the above may more realistically be 6 to 7 hours. If you want a couple of nights use and say 12 to 14 hours is enough then you'd maybe need 2 X 320WH power stations or one single bigger one.

Examples from amazon

320Wh
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/CTECHi-Portable-100000mAh-Generator-Technology/dp/B0BQMR8RQ9


1002Wh
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08RNQ9P2R
MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #5 4 Feb 2023 at 10.57pm  0  Login    Register
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Exactly what it says, power supply needs to be somewhere between 100-240v AC. You’re not going to get that off of any power bank type thing. You’d have to investigate what is available for the caravaning world.
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #4 4 Feb 2023 at 8.39pm  0  Login    Register
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1.0 – 1.5A, 100 – 240V, 50 – 60Hz I took that off the website, not sure what it means though lol
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #3 4 Feb 2023 at 7.55pm  0  Login    Register
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What’s the rating of the machine
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #2 4 Feb 2023 at 7.51pm  0  Login    Register
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Jay Mungo uses their large power pack to run his I believe. Perhaps drop him a message on Facebook
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #1 4 Feb 2023 at 7.47pm  0  Login    Register
Hi there, can anyone recommend a power pack that will run a CPAP machine for a couple of nights fishing ? Will just be for the CPAP machine I’ve got another power bank for phones and lights etc.
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