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In reply to Post #68
well done thanks for a good helpful post 
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I got a powered Wheel ķit ordered from Amazon for wheel barrows. It arrived in 2 days. Cost 235. 3 forward speeds and reverse. Thumb throttle. 350 watt 24v.
I fittd it to carp porter. Biggest prob is the wheel fork. I did a little cutting and welding and got that sorted. The only other issue is fitting connectors. There are 8 wires going to/from wheel. 3 are automotive sort of grade (not very aware of wire gauges) so bought waterproof automotive connectors. 5 other wire are very thin and for these I used 5 pin led lighting connectors. These come pre-wired with approx 150mm of cable attached so easy to fit. Futher connectors fitted at handles. I bought the triporter conversion kit. The handle bar on this is square and the controls for the barrow are designed for round handles. I removed the handgrips from the conversion kit, slid out the square bar and replaced it with a bit of 22mm copper pipe I had kicking around and put the grips back on.
I've used it twice and it has been excellent. Put the wheel on the wrong way round once. Not a good idea so now clearly marked.
If I was to do it again the only thing I would change is the to retain standard barrow method, ie lift at the back, no wheels. I may get a twist throttle and fit it to old handles so that I can swap as required.
Edit. Forgot to mention controller, original connections etc are housed in a waterproof electrical connection box bolted to frame.
The powering aspect cost me less than 300 quid + battery, and took about 5 hours to sort. If you get the wheel from Alibaba as per Gerry (they seem identical) then you're looking at 200 pound quids. I went with A.....n purely on delivery.
If you can get the wheel mounting/ fork sorted then it's a viable option imo.
Cheers.
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In reply to Post #66
Let us know how you get on H, very interested
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Got my kit yesterday from Ali
It’s perfect and everything is marked up (cables) so pretty bullet proof 👍
Thanks again for the link Gerry
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In reply to Post #63
I was toying with the idea of converting myself or buying one of the kits. In the end I just sold my triporter and bought an extreme.
Seems there was a massive wait for kits.
Cheers Brent 
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In reply to Post #61
Phil not teaching you to suck eggs mate but be careful !!!
when you order the wheel from my link MAKE SURE you select the right size as I think it defaults to the 36v one so you need to alter if if it does 
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In reply to Post #59
Be interested in your idea Pete when you get round to doing it 👍
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In reply to Post #58
Top man Gerry
Like the others have said I’ve already got a 12v charger so will buy 2 12v battery’s and wire them up in series and far easier to charge them up.
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In reply to Post #59
I converted my own using the 350w wheel, initially i used 2 x lead acids, but have moved onto a 24v lithium due to weight. as per below
https://batterymasters.co.uk/ultramax-24v-12ah-silver-fish-style-ebike-electric-bike-lithium-battery.html
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In reply to Post #58
That is the same kit (and seller) I have just got, it arrived last week. Not got a barrow to put it on yet so no idea if its a good one or not yet. Any one got a cheap tri-porter for sale
I am going down a different route with the battery but that's just because as an electronics engineer I like to do things differently to the norm. If my idea works I will no doubt publish what and how at some point later in the year.
Mine is also not really for fishing but moving supplies/wood around my woodland but it will get used on the odd longer fishing trip I am sure 
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In reply to Post #57
Ok so I had a good look for you and this ones a lot of people use
choose the 24v-350 watt this is by far the most used option dont forget the shipping charges to be added so total would be about £130 ish should come fairly quick from this seller
LINKY POO 
AND AS FAR AS BATTERYS GO lots of options
but a popular one is 2 of these each battery comes with a charger too or they do a 24v one so you only need the one but its a fair bit more expensive
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Thanks Gerry but don’t do face ache
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In reply to Post #55
Hi Phil if you are on Facebook ? you can get the latest info about Aliexpress kits here and checkout Jamie Sutcliffe he makes any brackets you may need to adapt your barrows forks to accept the motor wheel
LINKY POO
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Has anyone actually bought one from AliExpress and can share a link for it 👍
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In reply to Post #53
funny enough
someone recently posted they ordered a Wheel and kit on Jan 3rd got delivered on the 6th THREE DAYS FROM ALIEXPRESS 
they did however pay the extra express delivery charge
a point worth mentioning What some folk are not aware of
when ordering from AliExpress the commonly used wheels are all the same spec voltage and power however the internals are different for instance the main ring gear can be either plastic or metal
THIS IS WHY there is a big difference in prices that what seems at first glance to be the same wheel !
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In reply to Post #52
Id say thats much more realistic.... circa £250-£300 depending on what battery options etc you go for. Still £200 cheaper and a damn sight quicker than the companies that are supplying the kits.... throw chinese new year into the mix and you may struggle to get one this side of summer having dropped yer trousers and paid upfront!
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In reply to Post #50
Adam thats not very realistic ?
now they have to put the VAT and shipping cost on
this can add between £80 to £140 depending on who you buy from then unless you can weld and make your own wheel brackets
then its £35 for Jamie sutcliffe, brackets then add batteries this can be cheap lead acid or the excellent LiFePo4 batteries
so the final cost for a COMPARABLE Spec kit is still a very big saving of around £200
but in my case I was happy to pay the extra for a plug and play kit that you can self fit in under 30 mins and have a complete backup and after sales if anything goes wrong
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In reply to Post #50
Hi all,
is there a trick to get access to that referenced Facebook-group?
My request is pending for more than a week now, even messages to the admins did not help.
Any recommendations ?
Thanks,
Joe
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Looking at getting a power barrow conversion from Ali Express sub £100. Piece of cake to install and save £300-400. UK carp tax or just greedy bar stewards.
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In reply to Post #47
Is that the mob based in Romsey Hants ?
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Two years plus with a global wheel kit and I encountered a problem (my fault) Contacted them for advice and as well as being very helpful they offered to take it in and test it. Great after sales
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I've had the Global kit for a couple of years now and it has been reliable and the battery life really good whatever the weather. Mine came with metal connectors as standard at the handle end and plastic at the wheel end, both have stood the test of time perfectly well.
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In reply to Post #44
Perfect thank you
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In reply to Post #43
Yes you can, there a connection near the wheel and another off the battery to the throttle control.
Just treat it as a few wires coming off a battery pack
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I’m thinking of buying a conversion kit for my triporter and am wondering if you can still take it apart when converted as I only have a car and need to fold it down to get into the car
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In reply to Post #37
GERRY - There not childish little remarks, there factual, I have nothing against Global I just disagree that there better quality than the Barrow Conversions, I've had both side by side and its a noticeable difference.
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In reply to Post #38
good insight on BCUK thanks. Ive a order in for one of their powered barrows.
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In reply to Post #39
I used the Korda Kompac that fits the tacklesafe mate but no longer required as the BCUK is waterproof throughout
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In reply to Post #38
What was the full name for the Korda waterproof pouch. I've searched their website and can't see what product it is. The Nash barrows have a controller that is susceptible to water. Even though they know this they supply the kit without a decent cover. I'm currently using an old plastic peg bag.
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In reply to Post #37
I have had the global kit. Its not as rosey as some on here make out, and I've seen their endless negativity towards other companies so here's my balanced view owning both kits.
Global - Cheap plastic pinned connectors at the wheel end that are very easy to bend and damage. Metal connector controller end is slightly better.
I have rust coming through he welds on the wheel bracket that I have had to repaint to prevent it eventually failing.
The batteries are totally not fit for purpose if you plan on trying to get the stated distance from them in the winter and you use it regularly. The batteries lose at least half of their useable power when temperatures drop and I've been caught short of power after around 1.8km never mind the quoted 10+km range for the biggest battery I have.
I could not trust the battery to use it as a power pack as I ordered this as part of the kit.
The Lipos are really poor quality Chinese Lipos that are a nightmare to balance properly and I've found myself putting 6-7 charge cycles through it just to get it to balance safely. I am very experienced with lipo batteries from the RC world so I know it is not user error.
Global were quick to deliver the kit, but I also ordered a set of rear wheels that they promised me were in stock and would be despatched immediately. I waited as I didn't receive an order conformation to be told ten days later they had stock issues and id have to wait. I eventually got my money back and get a set of rear wheels delivered next day from BCUK and the quality is immense. I then started to pay more attention to their products and eventually ordered their conversion as I was sick of the lipo batteries and related concerns.
BCUK Kit
The connectors, control box and everything about the kit oozes quality and has motorsports grade connectors that are properly waterproof throughout, including the controller. I had to put the global one in a Korda waterproof pouch to try to protect it.
The Lifepo4 batteries are a far more reliable, longer life (more discharge cycles) and safer battery and far more suited to the task. Batteries charge via a typical charger and do not require a balance charger and don't have to be supervised whilst they charge.
I asked lots of questions in relation to the batteries charging etc and the company owner Mitch answered everything quickly and clearly knew what he was talking about.
The thumb throttle bracket is far more sturdy and fits perfectly.
I've since ordered a lot of their luggage, some barrow straps a water bottle bracket and a few other bits and the quality is next level. I received all of these within 2/3 days of each order.
BCUK have a wait because of the popularity of their product and due to supply delays, can happen to any company. I have had nothing but positive experiences thus far.
My two cents owning both kits, unlike others.
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In reply to Post #35
They should provide decent connectors as standard, not as an optional extra.
The supplied plastic ones on mine are decent but you wouldn't know that would you ? 
AS CLEARLY you would not keep having your little childish ill informed remarks 
if however I had problems with arthritis in my hands I would also order it with the easier to pull apart metal ones too
but My handles stay on I dont need them to be pulled apart every 5 mins so I like the rust proof and short circuit proof advantages of quality plastic connectors give me over metal ones
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In reply to Post #35
The metal connectors came as standard on mine
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In reply to Post #33
They should provide decent connectors as standard, not as an optional extra.
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Is anyone powering a barrow using one of the Loungebox batteries? I have a Loungebox Compact which is 30ah @ 24v that should hopefully be suitable but I wonder if I should just go for a kit complete with batteries anyway.
How are people finding the batteries that come with some of these kits, and any suggestions of different batteries than the ones in the kits?
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In reply to Post #29
I got them to change the connectors on mine as I couldn't pull them plastic ones apart, especially if the arthritis was kicking in.
The metal ones are perfect, strong and so easy to take apart.
Glad I spoke to them about my issues
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Morning all.
The chaps from Carpy Cartz were good enough to drop off my conversion last weekend. My initial thoughts are its well put together and pulls like a train, I cant imagine how much gear youd need to be carrying to require a full throttle press.
Because I dont have a standard wheel off carp porter, like a MK2 or a fat boy, ive decided to make a couple of alterations to my frame. Once ive done it then I will post up a few pictures or if I can then I will link to a youtube video. Basically ive got one of the dreadful Mk4 barrows with the suspension springs in the forks and the folding frame where the wheel stays attached. But my springs are knackered and one side is compressed and the other side isnt, which makes for an uneven ride. Not an issue when pushing manually but seeing as Ive spent money to make my push easier it seems a bit daft to put up with it. So ive bought a couple of lengths of box section and im gonna remove the springs and convert to solid forks. This isnt a reflection on the Carpy Cartz kits, its specific to my barrow. Anyone with a std barrow would just slide the wheel on as normal.
If I get a chance I will get this done at the weekend and post up some more info. What I would say is that when I bought the kit, I didnt buy the battery bag. I stupidly thought id just put the batteries in the carp porter centre bag, but of course I hadnt considered what happens if its raining. So for now I have put the battery and controller in a bait bucket. But anyone considering getting a kit from anywhere id say get the proper waterproof bag, which Im now gonna have to order. lesson learnt. dont be a tight arsed git.
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In reply to Post #30
think your confused sunshine I have never ever said that 
I have never ever used an Aliexpress kit ?
I have said they are AVAILABLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE use them with great success I started researching them around 2017 AND the 3 ready made kits and 4 years of reading all the forums and facebook pages and speaking to a fair few people that I knew either directly or through friends I had a very good idea what to buy to replace my Powerer porter I sold years before
but they of course need a certain amount of DIY work and fabrication and anyone that has a brain would simply go on the facebook page DEDICATED to converting barrows to electric to read of the success and horror stories mainly fuses blowing and speed controllers burning out but in the last year or so seems people are sorting them to be fair
imagine if the motor does have a problem and you bought it direct from china !
but if your saving around £200 on a click and plug kit that takes around 30 mins a child could fit
and have UK support and backup its important to get the best for your money and ANYONE who knows me on this forum knows I try and help people get the best buy for their hard earned
SO just get your facts right !
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Good God Gerry give it a rest ! One minute your telling the forum that they mainly use kits from "Ali express" then the next breath they use the best parts available .Your constant your opinion is always the best gets verrrrrrrrrrrrry boring .
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In reply to Post #28
GLOBAL have optional connectors for that people who like to not just wheel it in the back of the van and want a more metal robust connector a simple phone call to a company that values its customers and picks the phone up !
and no mine is not the only opinion but I dont GOBB OFF saying things are facts when they are just an opinion either !!
as Stated all THREE COMPANYS make good conversion kits Global Angling and Carpy Cartz and BCUK
BUT !
There can only be one Highlander best company IMHO 
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In reply to Post #25
But your opinion always seems to be the only one.
You stated Global ere the better company, have you actually had both barrows side by side?
This weekend I was on my syndicate and saw both side by side, the electrical connectors on my barrow conversions kit are a lot better and more robust that the Global.
There’s a reason why one has kits ready to dispatch and the other has a 8-12 week lead time.
I placed an order this morning, Global was cheaper and could be delivered within a week, as I’ve seen both barrows side by side I opted for the more quality made kit with the longer lead time.
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I think Global are a cult - and I am fully signed up.
I wanted recommendations and friends and social said global - 10 mins on the phone to them tells you what a quality company you are dealing with no sales just answers to queries.
The others may be good - but I now know around 7 or 8 that have global and not one moan - and if they did they would be comfortable with sharing it directly not over social media. Proper old school quality product - old school as in pick up the phone
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In reply to Post #24
well its a bit obvious to me at least
? if they have been building and selling kits for 10 years they would of learnt whats good and bad and whats reliable
or they would of been out of business by now 
so I guess we will agree to disagree
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In reply to Post #23
Mmmm
your are of course entitled your OPINION as THATS all it is
as I am
and my Global and my pals that made me buy it is of the very best is top quality
Im quite sure BOTH Carpy Cartz and BarrowConversions make good kits but I will stick with the company that delivers a product with instant support if and when needed with no broken promises etc
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Gerry - Just because a company has been going for 10 years (with no competition for most)doesn't mean they have a better product .
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In reply to Post #21
Your wrong there Gerry .
The components on the Barrow Conversion are alot better than the ones supplied by Global.
The only dis advantage I’d the lead time with Barrow Conversions which is around 8-12 weeks.
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In reply to Post #21
Thanks for clearing that up, I had since asking the question found a few negative comments regarding delivery times and customer service.
I've also contacted Global reference a couple of questions for my particular barrow.
Thanks 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #20
OK since you asked
for a start Global Angling started it over 10 years ago !!
so clearly they have learnt over the years the best parts to use also the delivery times are only a couple of weeks you get INSTANT support if you need it and no broken promises and they dont ignore their customers
there are a couple of copy company`s Carpy Carz and BCUK Global dont need to have lots of adverts they sell on Reputation and can DELIVER quality goods with unrivaled support
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In reply to Post #19
Cheers for the link, I had looked after seeing other mentioning them.
Can I ask why you say they are better? I have no experience with either company so merely curiosity, BCUK stuff does look the part from what I'm seeing online, they are going to be at the Northern Carp show this weekend and I considered going just to see their work in person.
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In reply to Post #18
I would checkout the better company IMO
LINKY POO 
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I have been considering converting my JRC Contact barrow using the kit from BCUK however by the time I've spent £450/£500 doing so I could buy a Nash power barrow off the shelf for around £700 and sell my JRC on.
Tonight BCUK have announced they have their own power barrows and and I really like the ED1+ model, just wondering if it's really worth the £950? Is it going to be £200 better than the Nash equivalent?
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Sounds an interesting project, good luck with it and it hope it works out.
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In reply to Post #15
I got the kit off global fantastic bit of kit plus a years warranty…
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In reply to Post #10
here is the Global order page LINKY POO
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In reply to Post #13
cheers
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In reply to Post #12
If you go on their Facebook and look at the fox deluxe barrow and click on the link it takes you to their website
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In reply to Post #11
yes it is the global one I am looking at
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In reply to Post #10
If you mean the global angling one then yes i have bought one and fitted it to my nash trax barrow the website page works for me.
I did phone up to order mine as my forks being the older nash barrow were different, apologies if its not global you are asking about
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In reply to Post #2
has anyone managed to buy one of this kits, I have tried and it take me to a website host? there facebook page has no buy now option ?
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In reply to Post #1
The economics of this are quite interesting. You can spend the best part of £1000 on a Nash or Carp Porter powered version or just buy a normal Carp Porter and a Global Enterprise conversion kit and save yourself a couple of hundred quid.
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In reply to Post #7
I slime mine and never have an issue. I've tried the solid tyres in the past but I leave my barrow loaded and after a couple of weeks in the garage they developed a flat spot! Slime works a treat.
I also converted my barrow using a kit from China over a year ago now, I fabbed up a wheel carrier to fit and touch wood, I've never had a problem with it and it works a treat. I used the 250kw kit and have 2 x 10mAh batteries which is perfect. I've never run out of juice and only a fully loaded barrow up a steep hill needs some help.
I don't need it but it does make the push much more pleasant and I never get that feeling of dread for the push back to the car from the furthest swim when its raining any more! I think it cost me about £220 all in. As said below, the facebook group is full of good information.
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In reply to Post #6
I know ,I did that with the original fox tyre.I just prefer a puncture proof tyre as a lake I fish is a nightmare for punctures
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In reply to Post #5
you could use Puncture Prevention Fluid and SLIME it
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In reply to Post #4
How are you finding the tyres,I wanted a puncture proof version but they unfortunately don't do one.They have offered me some rear wheels for my explorer deluxe that are puncture proof so will be getting them.I really like the look of the kit but i dont know if i can go back to a normal tyre
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In reply to Post #1
As Gerry suggested. Look at the Global Angling kit. I have fitted it to my Mk2 Fatboy and it is awesome.
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In reply to Post #1
Check out converting a carp barrow Facebook page there is lots of advice on there.
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In reply to Post #1
Global Angling products make easy fit kits for most barrows
and a brilliant facebook page to join they mainly use 24v 350w kit off aliexpress LINKY POO 
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I'm thinking of converting my saber all terrain barrow,with a golf battery operated trolley,has anyone done this any tips?
Cheers.
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