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keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #239 31 Oct 2021 at 6.25pm  0  Login    Register
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A lovely 45lb 6oz for me this weekend on a standard 15mm herb wafter and a dozen freebies!
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #238 31 Oct 2021 at 6.23pm  0  Login    Register
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There is a lot of love for the hookbaits again recently. There have been some awesome carp and barbel caught this week. The sting has caught me some of the best carp I have ever set my sights on. A little edgeÖÖ.Pernod😉
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #237 31 Oct 2021 at 7.06am  0  Login    Register
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Took my order of Sting wafters out for 24 hours this weekend and to say impressed is an understatement. Lake fished hard and from an unfancied peg I managed 9 takes where everyone else on the lake struggled (the bailiff had a couple, everyone else blanked). Did nothing special, just scattered boiles with the wafter and a small bag of pellets over the top, so clearly the hookbaits made a difference). Can't wait to use them in my club lake over the winter
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #236 25 Oct 2021 at 4.37pm  0  Login    Register
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The tutti Wafters are being worked on this week. From a flavour which is very close to the campbells version (makes you cough when you smell it) and we will also have some new dumbell Wafters rolled now that we have time to think. I havenít posted much as itís been a busy start to handcraft but I will post up some catch reports from around the U.K. when I get time this week. Thanks for all of the private messages and photos. And also you guys that send in the recipe ideas you haveÖ..some very clever people on this forum!!
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #235 5 Oct 2021 at 5.49pm  0  Login    Register
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I think the concept of nut baits has mileage and I know that the milk and bird food elements in the bait are all attractive. The natural amino profiles of fish baits, hydro liquids etc is what the carp look for and prosper when they eat them. Nut baits do not offer that same profile but I do understand that they clearly like eating them and that naturals sugars are a whole new ball game. Iím making a nut bait that I like eating!!! I mean itís really really nice to eat, hope them blooming carp have the same addiction to Brazilís and cashews 😂
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #234 5 Oct 2021 at 2.43pm  0  Login    Register
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Likewise I love a good quality fishmeal, but birdfoods and nut baits catch plenty every year. Sometimes different is good.

But as a business, even against your better judgement & knowledge and proven ideas, if the customer keeps asking for something, it has to be worth exploring that avenue

redduke
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redduke
   Old Thread  #233 5 Oct 2021 at 2.07pm  0  Login    Register
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thanks for the reply
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #232 5 Oct 2021 at 12.25pm  0  Login    Register
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I am a fishmeal man personally. Itís what I know itís what I like and itís proven (even in cold water) but the nut side of the industry is huge and so many people ask us for a nut bait that we had to make one. I just wanted one that is real. The extra mile is always worth it. The idea of bread and tiger meal is just not for me. We shall see how it goes this week!
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #231 5 Oct 2021 at 7.21am  0  Login    Register
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The other problem with any decent amount of nut meals are mesh consistency, using them quickly as the oils oxidise and go off.
Mesh size, that is a fussy one mate
In general Nut baits are oily, milk powders and soya flour at high levels add to the issue, and not roller friendly, using quality milks help, but whacks the cost up, lots of tweaking to get it right, it is bad enough with small 1 to 6 egg mixes.

Balancing the FLAAís within a nut bait is an eye opener, can tie yourself in knots!

But is it the taste of the yummy tiger meals and sugars that make them so attractive, and the bonus that they are quick to pass through them ?
As Frustrating and exciting developing a new bait is, I know you will get it spot on eventually Gav 👍

keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #230 4 Oct 2021 at 9.42pm  0  Login    Register
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The nut bait. I have had quite a few goes at this one and there has been positives and negatives.
Firstly the sourcing of the nuts themselves. Human grade nuts can be purchased in several places but the mesh sizes of the nuts I wanted have taken a bit more time to find. I have found some lovely lovely products from one particular company but the price of those ingredients is much higher (standard practice in bait world) but I have no doubt it will be worth it. Iím in talks to make sure they will always be available to me and at short notice. I have rolled the bait many times myself and the texture of the bait from a hand table is perfect. The machinery to roll it in any scale is not so kind on the mix. The liquids in the bait are a bit unique for a large scale production but once again I think I have a good supply moving forward. We ran it through the machines and it rolled ok, slightly sticky from the peanut protein and milk elements but a small adjustment will help that. The smell and taste is lush, we ran several flavour combos and the first one is still my favourite as itís the most gorgeous peanut flavour with a sniff of choc malt added to round it off. It softens in water nicely, itís holds together nicely and itís quietly catching some nice fish for the lads who have used it. It looks nice but Iím still adjusting the texture to make it coarse without not being rollable. The lads love it too which is always nice as they are a fussy bunch. Iím gonna ship some out to forum members who showed interest in the bait to see what they say. And today the final piece of the puzzle arrived and it needs to go back through the machines to see if it will still roll. Itís really really close to completion. The final down point (if this is a negative) is that it will cost more than what I expected. Human grade nuts, milks, are now more costly than they were, boring old tiger nut meal is still a fairly similar price but everyone uses that. I have a feeling that it will be ready within a month (handcraft is still really busy) but as Iím trying to do everything myself, there are just not enough hours in the day. I took 2 days off last week as I needed a break and now Iím behind again . I will let people know when itís close. Hardest thingÖÖÖ.naming the bait!
redduke
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redduke
   Old Thread  #229 4 Oct 2021 at 3.36am  0  Login    Register
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Gav, how is the nutmix coming along? Holding out, or should I get on Nutriplex now for the winter
Glenn_B
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Glenn_B
   Old Thread  #228 30 Sept 2021 at 6.20pm  0  Login    Register
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My man😂😂😂
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #227 30 Sept 2021 at 6.03pm  0  Login    Register
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Sorry GlennÖÖÖ.yep use fluro pink whenever you can😂😂😂😂
Glenn_B
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Glenn_B
   Old Thread  #226 30 Sept 2021 at 2.59pm  0  Login    Register
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Could you please be quiet Gav
KenTownley
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   Old Thread  #225 30 Sept 2021 at 1.58pm  0  Login    Register
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That video encapsulates everything that is great about carp fishing: the emotion, the exhilaration and the pure joy that we get from this wonderful pastime.
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