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Bridges92
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   Old Thread  #516 12 Apr 2022 at 6.11am  1  Login    Register
Heard so many great things about handcraft ive to give them a go which food bait would people recommend first trick nut or the herb ( can only use shelf life atm as have no freezer space ). Also if you had to pick 3 hookbaits to try first what 3 would you pick ? They all look really good .


Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #515 11 Apr 2022 at 10.11pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #513
Can bait be collected fresh from you, looked on Web site but didn't see address. Interested in trying herb.
CV-Deano
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   Old Thread  #514 11 Apr 2022 at 10.07pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #507
That's understandable Gav! Im glad its been so successful for you
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #513 11 Apr 2022 at 9.48pm    Login    Register
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Goose, baits in the freezer? I have used frozen baits for 30 years and keeping them for 6 months has never been an issue for me.
Hard hookbaits are made from the same basemix and liquids (ours are anyway) but we elevate the levels slightly due to the fact they are harder, less soluble and dried out for an extra day! Fresh bait is always my priority but many people donít seem to care anymoreÖÖ..itís often all about the price!
Deanmo
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   Old Thread  #512 11 Apr 2022 at 9.19pm    Login    Register
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Yeah it definitely comes across as an old school bait and does have the same sort of smell as the smokey mackerel and I like the fact its high in hydro's as this is something I used to do when I made my own and will be definitely putting in an order soon
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #511 11 Apr 2022 at 9.15pm    Login    Register
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A few questions.
Can bait be collected from your premises and if so what's the address.
What do you feel if the freezer life of a quality food bait like herb before it looses some attraction.
Do hard hook bait have a different profile to the feed baits. Reason I ask this is a mate makes a very high quality food bait that I use fresh and don't keep it frozen for more than six weeks which isn't a problem as he is local and I could always get more at short notice but now he is rolling for a lot more people it's not so easy, this bait also breaks down fairly quickly and only stays on the hair for four to five hours but the hard hook baits will stay on for twelve so wonder if the fish can tetect a difference.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #510 11 Apr 2022 at 9.07pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #507
Ask our mutual friend about his ribbon blender mate, that might suit?
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #509 11 Apr 2022 at 8.04pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #508
I donít remember the elite baits Smokey Mack but perhaps they were similar. As I said before, it was never designed to be or smell like anything else. We had several versions under test but this one was by far the best and also liked the most by the anglers involved. Marc cav was heavily involved with early tests and I donít think I will ever be able to give him another bait again!! We had a fish version, a curry type version and even a fruit but they just didnít seem to hit the mark like this one! This blend of flavours and heavy hydros is almost definitely unique (that I know of) and I just hope that they all stay available.
Deanmo
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   Old Thread  #508 11 Apr 2022 at 7.52pm    Login    Register
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I recieved some samples and yeah it definitely has the same aroma to them as the smokey mackerel by elite baits and once I clear a bit of space in the bait freezer I will defo be putting in an order
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #507 11 Apr 2022 at 7.33pm  1  Login    Register
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I was going to tell everyone exactly what was in the herb recipe in the very beginning. But I have had a few things blatantly copied before and itís really put me off the complete listing of ingredients now. Iím not secretive in any way shape or form normally but the herb is different and it will shape my future so I have sort of kept a few things close to my chest. The flavours are all from our past and the reason that many of you know it is because you may well have sniffed some of them before.
Today I was told by one of the greatest anglers that has fished in the U.K. that the herb is something very special and itís a message that comes in daily now.
Itís about as old skool as you can imagine but with a few modern twists! I literally canít produce enough of it and I really need to upsize this year.
CV-Deano
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   Old Thread  #506 11 Apr 2022 at 2.44pm    Login    Register
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What flavours go into the herb if you donít me asking? Any further info on its overall make up that isnít on the website? To me at least it has a simialr aroma to the elite baits Smokey mackerel I used about 20 years ago.
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #505 11 Apr 2022 at 12.20pm    Login    Register
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I think itís the similar spice / fish comboÖÖ.same as the source which has a similar smell IMOÖ..
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #504 10 Apr 2022 at 7.08pm  3  Login    Register
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Yep that sting is certainly one to fall back on. Lots of captures on that pop up this weekend. I always remember one winter when I caught a crazy amount of 30 pound carp from 2 different waters and the sting always got me the bites! We have a new batch drying right now and many orders to get out this week.
The Herb and nash sting boiliesÖÖ many people seem to think that the herb is a similar bait to the sting spicy fishmeal from the 90s. I can assure you I never designed it to mimic anything at all, I just chose some old ingredients, some new ones, some spices and some old flavours that are still around today. The sting I used personally in the 90s was brown, and had a beautiful meat, liver, fenugreek, curry type smell. But my god did we haul on it!!
Sting essential oil in our pop ups is a very unique and nice smell, tastes awful but smells mega!! A favourite of many many anglers now
CV-Deano
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   Old Thread  #503 10 Apr 2022 at 4.10pm    Login    Register
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Iím now well and truly sold on the sting for colder months. Gone are the times I carry a bait bucket full of pop ups around with me. Iíve fished 3 waters mainly days all through the winter and Iím yet to blank, nothing massive, fish to low 20ís but others around me have often struggled, all fish on the sting and itís been the most enjoyable winters fishing in a long time.

Btw I donít get the similarities with the herb at all.
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #502 10 Apr 2022 at 9.16am    Login    Register
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😂😂😂 the herb/sting combo
Itís amazing how people think that the herb is very similar to sting (itís not how I remember sting) but letís be honest that was one of the best nash produced
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