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Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #1123 28 Aug 2024 at 7.09pm  0  Login    Register
What is the shelflife of the shelflife bait if kept in the correct condition ?
MrNuvawun
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MrNuvawun
   Old Thread  #1122 28 Aug 2024 at 6.48pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1120
How about a light brown fishmeal with the Deep C attractor package? That would be awesome!
Carp123_0
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   Old Thread  #1121 28 Aug 2024 at 6.44pm  0  Login    Register
What’s everyone’s go to boilie from handcraft in winter that tricknut look decent
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #1120 26 Aug 2024 at 2.31pm  1  Login    Register
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I can’t ever change herb
I’d get shot 😂
Maybe a dark version one day 😂😂
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #1119 26 Aug 2024 at 1.39pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1116
He could do them as a special hookbait
lilharbs
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lilharbs
   Old Thread  #1118 26 Aug 2024 at 1.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1116
2nd this, Sting is banging 👌
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #1117 26 Aug 2024 at 11.39am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1111
Robin red Fishmeals catcher of big carp since the mid to late 80's
For some reason they do seem to pick out the bigger fish. That's why I think Terry Hearn puts so much faith in them. Arnt Sticky bring out a Robin red Fishmeal?
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #1116 25 Aug 2024 at 8.48pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1111
Forget the colour Gav, can you please do the herb with 3ml per kilo of sting flavour …….
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #1115 25 Aug 2024 at 8.34am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1111
If I could only use one it would be the Herb,had a lovely 17/18lb mirror early hours this morning.The lake has been fishing very badly this year and 12mm herb with a small dumbell wafter has done the business again .
woody71
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   Old Thread  #1114 24 Aug 2024 at 10.21pm  0  Login    Register
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Its not specifically the carps reaction to the red bait that i am bothered about more so the coots that are my biggest problem on a specific low stock carp water with a sandy bottom, the red fishmeals stand out so clearly even washed out.

I got some of the skipjack off you last week to see if it will be harder for them to locate, i have thought of trying a nut based bait as that will probably blend even better plus the the head of very big bream may not be as drawn to a nut bait?

The lake i am fishing is a very difficult lake with a few stockies and the very old originals which is what i am fishing for with some success but they will not not pick up a bright hookbait pink, yellow, white, orange etc all my fish are falling to natural subtle coloured hoobaits

keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #1113 24 Aug 2024 at 8.49pm  0  Login    Register
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When we first produced the finished article that is now the herb, we all kind of said the same thing and we watched a lot of carp on two lakes in particular feed on the herb from late winter into early spring.
The carp never showed signs of spooking off the bait, in fact it was the reverse! They homed in on the baited area and when our guys got together to share the early results they all said how good the first ever response was to the bait.
I actually think that 99 percent of what we throw into a lake is hi viz.
Most boilies are pale
Pellets go pale
Corn is bright yellow
Particles are bright
Therefore another bright boilie makes no difference to the carp. If they like eating something then they will stay and feed regardless of colour.
The birds however are a different matter.
Skipjack is reverse engineered from herb but with different additives, liquids and of course tuna fish but the colour was tweaked to avoid bloody coots!!
woody71
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   Old Thread  #1112 24 Aug 2024 at 6.28pm  1  Login    Register
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I think a brown version of the herb would have done very well, The red herb obviously catches a lot of fish and is very successful but i personally think the red stands out to much over most of the bottoms i fish, i always seem to do better on brown baits
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #1111 24 Aug 2024 at 5.53pm  3  Login    Register
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I think the 3 main baits we sell will find a place in many of you guys angling at some point. I have worked my way through dozens and dozens of recipes over the years and most of them have something in common.
If you are going to try them then start with the herb! That one is just so effective. Today I have opened my social media (sorry to mention Facebook 😂 and the messages and catch reports on it are like nothing I have seen before. Shelf life herb is very good too.
It’s got a huge following and we could just make that one bait and survive now.
When I made it I was tempted to make it brown/ natural colour but l love the haiths robin red and I have seen how good those proper red fishmeals can be.
I do wonder what the brown version would have taken off like!
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #1110 24 Aug 2024 at 8.39am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1109
I use both, S7 & Tricknut, going to be hard for me to stop using S7!

@Gav

Hope you had a good break

I keep meaning to come on here and share some mega carp but I guess you can see them on our social media if you want to. I don’t look here as much as I used to

Honestly, sort your s**t out.
Even for you there's no way I'm ever going on social media voluntarily , especially to look at pictures of other people ( who I don't aspire to be like, and am not envious of) fishy pictures (that on the whole I wouldn't want to fish for and would probably never get the opportunity to anyway )
I was forced to twice, once by a syndi that only communicated by FB (if you call a lot of the scribblings communication, could be another language for all I know), and once by a club because I was fishing and unbeknown to me there was a work party slated and they only told people by FB

Ramblings over, go and slag me off on social medial folks fill your boots ...and that was all said in jest to a point, FB can kiss my a***.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #1109 23 Aug 2024 at 10.05pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1108
Yes,switched from dna to handcraft and won't be going back
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