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Butt_Banger
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   Old Thread  #55 9 Nov 2023 at 5.24pm    Login    Register
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Thanks Mark👍
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #54 9 Nov 2023 at 1.12pm    Login    Register
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Depends how stiff the mix and how small the nozzle. All makes a difference. Gunning 16mm with a normal basemix you should be getting 80-90 tube fulls from the battery. Thatís a lot of bait. It only takes 15-20 mins to charge from near empty to full.
Butt_Banger
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   Old Thread  #53 9 Nov 2023 at 11.34am    Login    Register
Can someone that has used one of these please give me an idea of how much base mix this gun will do on one full charge.
Thanks in advance.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #52 6 Nov 2023 at 4.59am  2  Login    Register
I saw recently someone on a different thread say they managed to destroy theirs. Some simple do's and don'ts to make your gun last forever.

The mixes we put through this gun, are far far stiffer than any base mix you are ever going to put through it. Our mixes are extremely high fat, with added cork which is far more solid/stiff than any freezer bait base mix. It will handle any mix you want to throw at it all day everyday. It is far more robust than the very most expensive £360 Cox lithium bait guns on the market. They are so robust, if you put your old Gardner/Cox plastic collars on, they will literally blow them to bits. The plastic collars are not meant for the pressure this gun will exert. They are miles better than the Cox. Substantially better than my old Makita. But they cost buttons.

BUT, the motor ain't geared for running stiff base mixes. They are made for running caulk. If you want to roll anything stiff under 14mm, you need to use a multi nozzle to relieve pressure. If you try to run anything stiff through a single nozzle under 14mm, you will actually hear the motor struggling a little bit. 14mm & above a single nozzle is fine. 12mm & below use a multi nozzle to relieve some pressure.

Don't let your lithium battery run completely out. As soon as the 2nd of 3 lights goes out on the meter, recharge it. It's not a cell battery. Think of it more like the battery on your smartphone.

Do those two simple things and these guns will literally last forever. They are nothing short of incredible for the task in hand.
Karlos
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   Old Thread  #51 5 Nov 2023 at 1.03am    Login    Register
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Here's your link working

CLICK HERE for Caulking Gun on eBay, currently £86.90

Just about to buy one...
EDIT: Done...currently says "More than 10 available / 10 sold"

I bought a new deep fat fryer earlier (after seeing this thread).
Under £30 and delivered

CLICK HERE for Deep Fat Fryer £28.99
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #50 22 Oct 2023 at 7.06am    Login    Register
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Good find. With one battery that's still at least a good score cheaper. (Your link does not work I copy & pasted item number). I should have looked on eBay again first. As I said it was an impulse thing when I saw them cheaper on Prime day. They are all exactly the same colour. It's just dodgy lighting on the different photos. All that has changed is the cosmetics on the battery and the name stamped on it.

Never oiled our units mate. The one in the first post is three years old and has been used so much it's unreal. It's still working like new. Unit and battery. Zero added oil.

I probably have more stored units than that eBay seller now though to be fair. Only two units have been taken out of the box. The extra tubes are very handy for us running different mixes and different colours. We have a tube for each now.

It was 18:30 on a Saturday and I'd been working since before 5am. I could not be arsed being more honest, I just added it onto that post. It's Sunday and I've been working again since 5am. At the end of today I will likely feel exactly the same way again
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #49 22 Oct 2023 at 6.55am    Login    Register
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I saw your new post about your new batch of bait and the little extra you wrote about the bait gun, so easy enough to find the thread. Google search lithium bait gun carp forum and boom

Was it you that mentioned oiling one of the internal parts on the orange gun?

Just found one on ebay for £79...
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #48 22 Oct 2023 at 6.48am    Login    Register
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I could not find this thread yesterday Baitman (lazy). The lithium battery on our original unit has not deteriorated at all. It's been used seven days a week pretty much, often for very long hours every single day for three years now. It's been charged many hundreds of times over and over again. It's still spot on with no noticeable deterioration. I posted this on the bait thread yesterday below. I keep stocking up, they are that good. You lot could never mess that battery up in your lifetime if you look after it.

I picked up yet another one on Prime day. It was a spur of the moment thing late at night. Cheapest on Amazon now is £160. On Prime day I got another one for £133 I think it was with a voucher. With two batteries I thought that was more than reasonable. It's black Friday soon, they will be cheaper again.

Coming all way from China now too. All of them on Amazon are.


Baitman
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   Old Thread  #47 22 Oct 2023 at 6.25am  1  Login    Register
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I have used my gun several times now and the battery is still fully charged. Best things ever.

Did someone mention about oiling an internal part to help it live longer???
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #46 12 Jun 2023 at 11.54pm  1  Login    Register
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I messaged an eBay seller and he replied saying spare batteries can be had for £30 each.

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Baitman
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   Old Thread  #45 9 Jun 2023 at 11.33pm    Login    Register
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If anyone finds the price and availability of a spare battery the please post up.

I did wonder if it might be possible to get an adaptor so I could use a making battery off my drill
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #44 9 Jun 2023 at 12.44pm  1  Login    Register
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But this is also great news for all of us that already have them Smurf. We will def be able to get spare batteries now.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #43 9 Jun 2023 at 12.41pm  1  Login    Register
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That is the exact one I was speaking about in the previous post Smurf. A member of this forum contacted me yesterday, to say they had tried to buy that exact one, and got this message.

I just got that message trying to make an offer. Try it. That is the only listing for it left on eBay, and the listing is no longer actually for sale.

Smurf
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   Old Thread  #42 9 Jun 2023 at 12.25pm  1  Login    Register
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What about ebay 402514201765
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #41 9 Jun 2023 at 5.56am    Login    Register
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Nothing great lasts forever. I hope you all got one at £90 with free delivery. They have all now disappeared off eBay I was told yesterday. There is one seller left on eBay advertising them, but you can't actually buy it.

Now they are only available on Amazon. They are rebadged, with a slight cosmetically different battery (exactly same thing). They also now come with an extra spare battery.

But they now range in price from £187 - £245, for what we all essentially paid £90 for.

We all had a right touch. Keep your eyes peeled on Amazon feedback and comments. Spare batteries will clearly be available for us I'd imagine now they are on Amazon.

TCarper
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   Old Thread  #40 1 May 2023 at 8.20am    Login    Register
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Bump
chanmenie
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   Old Thread  #39 28 Nov 2022 at 8.27pm    Login    Register
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Yeah considered that but as I have a Gardner plunger kicking about I though Iíd make use of it
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #38 28 Nov 2022 at 2.58pm    Login    Register
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A bit of araldite pushed into the little slots would sort it.
Obvs let it dry outside the gun
chanmenie
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   Old Thread  #37 27 Nov 2022 at 1.37pm    Login    Register
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Iíve bought one of the cordless guns, and yes the bait goes behind the plunger, going to adapt it to accept the Gardner / 5mix plunger, that should sort it
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #36 22 Nov 2022 at 12.37pm    Login    Register
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Quote... Hi tcarper. Did you get round to solving the problem of paste getting behind the plunger? I'm having 5he same problem.

Hi mate, sorry I only just saw this. Yes I did get around that problem. I delegated someone else to clean the back of the gun out every other day. Now I do not even think about it anymore

In all seriousness... It takes them a couple of minutes, if that. And that small bit of pressure release at the back of gun, stops us from blowing nozzles out too I have found! Not done one nozzle with these guns. Used to do loads with other brands.

We have now been using these guns for a long, long time. All day, every day... Seven days a week. They are absolutely mustard, bomb proof. Well they have been for us. Battery lasts for AGES. The battery on our first unit has not deteriorated at all. We are gunning out an incredible amount of mixes with them too, it's been charged soooo many times. Still as good as new. Lithium is so good.
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #35 22 Nov 2022 at 11.44am    Login    Register
I have just got one of these. I haven't made bait with it yet but pressing the plunger into the floor and really putting my weight on it and pressing the trigger I can feel it pushing me up

When charging the light on the charger is red but goes green when fully charged which is handy.
I'm looking forward to making bait without the fat forearm.
Bren987
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   Old Thread  #34 6 Mar 2021 at 6.53am    Login    Register
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Hi tcarper
Did you get round to solving the problem of paste getting behind the plunger? I'm having 5he same problem.
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #33 23 Jan 2021 at 4.18pm    Login    Register
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So with that battery capacity there isn't really a need for a spare battery.
Thats great, thanks.
Smurf
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   Old Thread  #32 23 Jan 2021 at 9.02am    Login    Register
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I haven't timed the charge just left it over night. You have to remove the battery from the gun to charge it. I've done over 15kg so far without needing to re-charge it yet but I have just charged it anyway as the worst thing you can do with a battery is store it with less than 60%(ish) charge so didn't want to leave it part discharged
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #31 23 Jan 2021 at 2.27am    Login    Register
How long does the battery on the Anesty bait gun take to charge.

If the battery is low can you still use the gun with the charger plugged in.
trevfish61
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   Old Thread  #30 22 Jan 2021 at 6.01am    Login    Register
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Read this and bought one from the bay, happy daze
BlankasorusRex
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   Old Thread  #29 21 Jan 2021 at 7.39pm    Login    Register
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Iíve just ordered one. Before they go up another twenty quid.

My mix is quite stiff and the last batch I did killed my arms. If it saves that then itís an extra £20 well spent for me. I will just use my manual gun for pop ups now I think.
Smurf
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   Old Thread  #28 21 Jan 2021 at 11.37am    Login    Register
Noticed the price on these have gone up £20 in the last few months. No doubt due to the covid/brexit situation. Still good value for the job they do but a bit of a bummer if you looking at them now.
BlankasorusRex
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   Old Thread  #27 29 Nov 2020 at 5.45pm    Login    Register
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Cheers woody. Thatís the kiddy. No idea why it never came up when I was searching for it. Think I might buy one before they realise whatís going on and whack on a load of carp tax.
woody71
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   Old Thread  #26 29 Nov 2020 at 4.54pm    Login    Register
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Try this ebay number 324075888412
BlankasorusRex
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   Old Thread  #25 29 Nov 2020 at 4.50pm    Login    Register
I canít seem to find this exact model on eBay anymore.
GJAdams1977
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   Old Thread  #24 28 Nov 2020 at 11.13pm    Login    Register
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I bought a deep fat fryer on your recommendation, absolutely fantastic boils so quickly certainly speeds up the process
secret-agent
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   Old Thread  #23 27 Nov 2020 at 10.12pm    Login    Register
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Yes and yes 👍 knocked out loads with mine in the couple of months I've had it and still only charged it twice! Hope i don't ever have to go back to a manual gun and am tempted to buy a spare incase it breaks.
Norfolk_Bob
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   Old Thread  #22 25 Nov 2020 at 9.16pm    Login    Register
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Everyone still happy with theirs? Also, has anyone used one with the 5mix triple nozzle cap?
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #21 15 Oct 2020 at 5.21pm    Login    Register
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They have put them up a tenner now.
darkoL
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   Old Thread  #20 15 Oct 2020 at 2.28pm    Login    Register
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tnx!
Smurf
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   Old Thread  #19 15 Oct 2020 at 1.47pm    Login    Register
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Search for ebay number 352816257904 this is the sort I have got an it is working well
2ndChance
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   Old Thread  #18 15 Oct 2020 at 1.39pm    Login    Register
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My only concern is how long will the battery last and will it be possible to get new batteries in X years time when its dead.

My electric hand drill modded bait gun runs perfectly, provided the electric bill has been paid Works a treat for small batches
darkoL
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   Old Thread  #17 15 Oct 2020 at 1.36pm    Login    Register
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Does anyone have any links for buying this sort of gun all included?
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #16 15 Oct 2020 at 12.02pm    Login    Register
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Type in '20v Li-ion lithium battery' on Fleabay mate... Quite a few come up that are identical fittings wise to the battery that comes with the gun. The only difference seems to be the slots on top of the battery, where it attaches to the gun. Some batteries on Fleabay have 4 slots, some have 5 even though they all look 'identical' at first glance.. It's 5 slots on this gun.

But there are loads of after market batteries that will fit. It would seem to be a very standard battery .

The guns have been faultless for us.
Smurf
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   Old Thread  #15 27 Aug 2020 at 10.33am    Login    Register
Used mine last night for the first time with a dry/stiff mix and both small (12mm) and big (18mm) nozzle sizes. Worked perfectly and it could have gone faster than I could keep up with.

My only concern is how long will the battery last and will it be possible to get new batteries in X years time when its dead. To be honest if that becomes a problem I will just add a power cord and plug top PSU as I don't really need cordless for bait making

For the money this is a great buy IMHO

I also got a £40 'commercial' fryer off ebay (item 174392865303)...why did I not get that before. Quick to boil and gets straight back to the boil with 1/2kg of bait dropped in it. It is made with paper thin stainless steel but it does a great job for £40
Waspey
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   Old Thread  #14 24 Aug 2020 at 4.33pm    Login    Register
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Cheers, only asking as I usually make bait on a night when the kids are asleep so donít want anything too loud.
secret-agent
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   Old Thread  #13 24 Aug 2020 at 3.01pm    Login    Register
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Itís makes a bit of noise but itís certainly not too loud, no different from any electric tool type thing.
Waspey
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   Old Thread  #12 23 Aug 2020 at 6.31pm    Login    Register
How loud are these, sounds pretty loud on the video?
secret-agent
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   Old Thread  #11 23 Aug 2020 at 11.07am    Login    Register
Mine arrived Friday and I used it for the first time that evening, fantastic! I enjoyed using it so much I got up early Saturday and did another batch!

As TCarper said, it charged quickly and after 2 x mixes it still was fully charged. The nozzle end of my Gardner gun unscrewed and fitted straight on.

Obviously canít give long term reviews but initially very impressed, I hope it lasts
scozza
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   Old Thread  #10 21 Aug 2020 at 5.37pm    Login    Register
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TCarper
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   Old Thread  #9 21 Aug 2020 at 11.12am    Login    Register
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I just had a little search... Watching it now... MADE IN LEICESTER

TCarper
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   Old Thread  #8 21 Aug 2020 at 11.00am    Login    Register
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I have ordered two more for work. (One to keep as a spare). They are absolutely incredible for the money, you will not be disappointed. I'd say that the gun is much better than the £270 Cox version. Pushes through very stiff mixes with ease. All external attachments fit from the Gardner/Cox manual guns. The only difference, is a small difference in length of main barrel and the plungers are not interchangeable either (diff thread)... So the barrels are not interchangeable.... Everything else is.

My only very small gripe, is a small touch of paste gets behind the plunger when using very wet mixes, this is only due to the plungers supplied having small expansion gaps... Super easy to clean at the end of the day by screwing off the barrel. When I get a chance I will MOD this to stop this happening. It has a battery meter on it, so far I've not managed to run it down at all... And that's using it morning till night. The battery seems superb and charges very quickly.

The trigger control is also fantastic, far better than the Cox version.

Smurf
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   Old Thread  #7 20 Aug 2020 at 8.58pm    Login    Register
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Bless him, 'made in leicester, none of that Chinese crap'

Does he honestly believe that

I've still got one on order to try out, running the compressor is very anti-social
Waspey
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   Old Thread  #6 20 Aug 2020 at 7.47pm    Login    Register
There is a YouTube video of someone doing a review on it, looks quite good
secret-agent
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   Old Thread  #5 20 Aug 2020 at 7.40pm    Login    Register
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Iím sure it will perform better than my skinny arms after gunning a 12 egg mix
Nick
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   Old Thread  #4 20 Aug 2020 at 6.15pm    Login    Register
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i'd be interested how they perform
secret-agent
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   Old Thread  #3 18 Aug 2020 at 8.54pm    Login    Register
I ordered one last week after reading this thread, looking forward to it arriving
PaulC70
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   Old Thread  #2 18 Aug 2020 at 7.51pm    Login    Register
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God I wish these were available 20 odd years ago when I used to roll my own lol
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #1 5 Aug 2020 at 2.05pm    Login    Register
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I had a very trusty old Makita caulking gun that I adapted into a bait gun. It lasted for years, then The Tackle Box gave me a prototype Cox lithium bait gun to test out, with a view to selling them in the shop (which never ended up happening). It was much lighter than the old trusty Makita... But last week it gave up the ghost for no reason whatsoever. The Makita was dug out, but a couple of years of no use and this had seized up and was no longer working either!

We needed a gun for work quickly, a Makita or a Cox lithium powered caulking gun is upwards of £250... So I took a chance on one off of Fleabay for £89.99 delivered. 20v lithium battery, and UK stock (Delivered in two days). I sort of figured for £90 it was worth a punt.

It's been in use now for the past few days at work... And it's pukka. Although obviously Chinese (sore subject at the mo)... It's VERY good for the money (comparable with the £269.99 Cox) All of the attachments are the same size threads as Gardner/Cox so are interchangeable. I can't put a link up, as this one was the last available from the seller who is now out of stock. I'm sure there will be more up soon, I'll be getting another when there is.

An absolute godsend at that price for you home bait makers. A manual Gardner deluxe gun is £50.
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