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ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #17 8 Mar 2020 at 10.37am  0  Login    Register
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No mate they are decent, but I did prefer the penns
duggs
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   Old Thread  #16 8 Mar 2020 at 10.13am  0  Login    Register
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Does that mean you aren't getting on with the emblems?
Jslinn
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Jslinn
   Old Thread  #15 7 Mar 2020 at 10.08am  0  Login    Register
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Garry at custom reels.

Handle bearings in the iso and the spool clicker replaced as the originals are thin.

The tournies has metal line clips fitted.
ajs55
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ajs55
   Old Thread  #14 7 Mar 2020 at 9.47am  0  Login    Register
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I bought 5 of the Shimano Ultegra 12000 XTA's new in 2006. Had them serviced for the first time last year. Never let me down. Heavier than newer big pits. I do like the Emblem 45 SCW, but don't know if its worth the change. The guy who serviced them said they were in perfect condition. I can not imagine some of the newer reels lasting 14 years.
carpslayer01293
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carpslayer01293
   Old Thread  #13 4 Mar 2020 at 7.25pm  0  Login    Register
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I went from Ss3ís to the Power Aeros, indeed they do look pretty but thatís about it, 2 Spool clickers broke first time out and the plastic bit that holds the rota bent out of place and had to have the reel replaced, Safe to say they were sold and now Iím back on some Tournies
Wonít be making that mistake again
roman
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   Old Thread  #12 4 Mar 2020 at 6.05pm  0  Login    Register
I went from Tournaments to Power Aeroís last year, and all I can say is the shimanoís look pretty.
Daiwa by a mile for me.
TheImmortal
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   Old Thread  #11 4 Mar 2020 at 11.55am  0  Login    Register
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Well. I got some Tournament 5000T in the end.
Thank you all for the help, I was looking for some original ISO but found some great looking Tournies even if I dont like them and sell them onnatba later date it will be good to know I've fished with these Cult classics.

First time stepping away from Shimanos but looking forward to fishing the Daiwas
stuart666
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stuart666
   Old Thread  #10 4 Mar 2020 at 10.06am  0  Login    Register
Always been a daiwa man, i just think they make better reels. I tried the previous black mags when they first came out and sold them a went back to the original isos which i still believe are the best carp reel ever made and still dont know why daiwa discontinued them. I dont carp fish anymore but ive got daiwa saltist 4000ís on my barbel rods which are superb so im still sticking with daiwa.
Pooter
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   Old Thread  #9 4 Mar 2020 at 8.34am  0  Login    Register
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Can I ask who serviced them and what, if any upgrades did you get?
Jslinn
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Jslinn
   Old Thread  #8 3 Mar 2020 at 9.50pm  0  Login    Register
A friend uses the shimanos the new set of mags and swapped them replaced a two year old set and had to send them back due to issues with them even now he feels the older set where better as the spool wobbles about the shards. Another pal traded his ISOs in for a set of Mags and felt disappointed and that he Ds isnít gain another thing from doing so.

Out of the box reels are poor imho they need to be built properly ie serviced from new both my set of tournies and ISOs are superb.

My services tournies where much better than my ISOs and I had 4 minters. Once I had my ISOs services they are in a class of their own.

carpe_diem
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carpe_diem
   Old Thread  #7 3 Mar 2020 at 8.35pm  0  Login    Register
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After using Shimano and Daiwa reels for as long as Iíve been fishing (over 30 years) ,and probably owned every carp type reel of both makes Iíd always choose the Shimano over the Daiwa . Iíve had clicker issues with only Basia spools , 2 of 3 spools went silent , not to mention the bent shafts on 2 of them .
Iíve had Tournies , in my opinion very heavy and clunky , had a couple of sets actually but they need modifying in my opinion before they are fit for use , the plastic line clips are pants so they need sorting and the clutch is too slow for me , plus the retrieve rate is crap , a common problem with most Daiwa reels and something that will put me off buying any reel if the retrieve rate is rubbish as I fish a lot of big waters abroad .
Had the original ISOís , again rubbish retrieve rate and nothing special in my opinion , nice and light though and felt much better built than the Tournies .
I now use for most of my fishing a set of Technium 10000 mgs Xsbís and a set of Ultegra 14000 Ci4 Xsb, both sets have been flawless in many years of use , nice and light , silky smooth , excellent retrieval rate , superb line lay and casting ability and the Ultegras will swallow a lot of line very quickly which is what I need for my long range fishing .
My advice to you would be to look at a second hand set of Ultegra Ci4 XSB or XTB , they are superb reels built to last with many features you get with a top end set of Techniums , you wonít regret it imo .

I think Shimano and Daiwa are both guilty of poor quality in recent times with the mid and lower range black reels , I certainly wouldnít buy a new set of either of their offerings unless I had to , although I do like the look of the new Emblem SCW gold , look the part but will they last the test of time like the old gold emblems? Probably not

Adamroybooth
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Adamroybooth
   Old Thread  #6 3 Mar 2020 at 8.09pm  0  Login    Register
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Love my power Aeros. All 4 clickers gone mind.
Jslinn
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Jslinn
   Old Thread  #5 3 Mar 2020 at 7.53pm  0  Login    Register
Diawa parts available for a decade. If only Shimano continued with the XT10k one of the best reels made.

My personal choice the ISO and Tourney. Do get them services what ever you decide the Tackle Manufactures donít do them just with their shabby cost cutting assembly.

Price is important Sonik and Penn have had good reports
noddyfisherman
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noddyfisherman
   Old Thread  #4 3 Mar 2020 at 5.51pm  0  Login    Register
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I have power Aeros 14000 xtb, theyíre made in Japan so supposedly better quality.
Iíve had the 2 years and they have been pretty much perfect,
Theyíre sealed so no need to oil and the drag is waterproof.
They can suffer with line behind the spools if you overfill them
But thatís my only gripe.
Everyone will have an opinion and some are daiwa and some are shimano.
Personally I could have afforded anything but went for these as they are very well built and packed with up to date tech thatís actually useful.
Cannot comment on the spook clicker, so far mine have been fine but time will tell.
Huge amount of line to fill them to, so if youíre fishing huge inland seas then these are well worth a look.


ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #3 3 Mar 2020 at 12.28pm  0  Login    Register
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I'd ditch both ideas and get a set of penn affinity
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