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In reply to Post #54
The base mix is a lot finer than what go's into the boilies they sell hold the 2 together shop bought and the ones you make with base mix and crumble both and you will see the diffrance
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In reply to Post #53
Cheere for that . Is the baitworks base mix realy the same as the boilies you buy from them tho or are they holding a few things back . .im very intrested to try my first go at bait making this way can you add bits 2 it ok .
Sure keeper boy on hear was gona start doing base mixes 2 used lot of his bait with great results so mite try one of his with bit added stuff if easy to do . .
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In reply to Post #52
I've used both John Baker and Baitworks mixes. Love them both.
If you're just starting then I'd go for a Baitworks mix with the matching liquid. Then you've got everything together. Dead easy to mix as well.
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How do the bait makers on hear rate bait works base mixes you can buy paired to others like john bakers , aa etc base mixes..
I keep meaning to giv it a go making my own bait but only shop bought base mixes as i aint got as clue wot doing so bait works ones look quite simple for a noddie like me .
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In reply to Post #49
Mate of mine uses the shelf life version. Quite a soft bait Scopex type lable to it. He really rates it. 
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In reply to Post #49
Mate goes carping once a month but does very well on it the pellets are fantastic to he says, he keeps fish and thay get on it very well , never used there bait but I know there stuff is very good
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Anymore reviews on baitworks creamino now it’s been out a while ?
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I’ve been having good results on the creamino..
The carp seem to like it...
 
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Sounds ideal for colder water
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In reply to Post #39
I am having success on the pop ups.
I am not a fan of the bottom baits tbh. They break down after a while and are succeptible to silver fish pecking away at them.
Will try the hard hookers before i discount them
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In reply to Post #44
Had me over like a kipper 
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In reply to Post #40
That's a classic answer fair play pal hahaha
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In reply to Post #39
Probably not as well as it does in the water....
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In reply to Post #38
How is the creamino doing on the bank ?
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In reply to Post #37
For some reason I thought it was but just watched the video and confirmed it wasn’t, I will order 20kg and see how I get on, if it’s like any of the other range it will do well.
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In reply to Post #35
Creamino isn’t nut based 
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In reply to Post #35
Don’t think a long term review can be done for at least a year. If it’s like the rest of the range it will stand the test of time...... 
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Has anyone got any reviews on the Creamino yet?
Current user of the Atlantic Heat but the lake I fish does more bites on a nut based boilie.
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In reply to Post #33
As far as i know there is no egg or powder egg in that mix it was mentiond in a you tube video the done a few month ago
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In reply to Post #8
They use dried eggs rather than in the shell. Storage and eas of use. Dried egg dose not go off like in the shell, takes up less room and less time. No waste.
All 3 in a bucket, pour glug over the top and leave to soak in.
Cremamino is getting a good following, rumour is it's not the same as Elliot came up with, to exspensive, but the alternative is working. Like anything, put enough half decent in and the mud pigs will get on it eventually.
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I have never said that egg-based boilies are no good, just that there are some disadvantages as well as advantages. An excellent alternative binder would be whey protein...Or wheat gluten, anybody??? 
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Just because a bait doesn’t contain eggs does not mean it doesn’t contain egg derived products
Not saying this is the case with the Cre-Amino, just saying!
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In reply to Post #27
Egg albumen is a point in itself. A fantastic binder but in my opinion a terrible ingredient......the goodness is locked up inside and water ingress/exchange is all but halted.
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In reply to Post #1
none of their base mixes need eggs.
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In reply to Post #27
Exactly, No one would, 4 or 6 eggs were the most cost effective means of holding it all together, and giving it the nuisance fish proof skin, it would be impractical to roll and use it otherwise.
Even using horrible binders like wheat gluten in large amounts, we still caught enough.
Do our current/future boiled baits need to focus more on solubility and digestibility than previously thought?
Is this the start of a trend to go liquid egg free, or is it a convenience, shelf life thing.
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In reply to Post #25
How many people would have used a boiled bait without some form of binding it, powdered, fresh or albumen?
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In reply to Post #25
Yes, of course, every carp swimming will eat or at least pick up pretty much anything at one point or another.
Kens post did not suggest they won't work (if made with eggs), it was merely the potentials of what eggs could do to a bait, thus increasing the bait by not using them.
Can eggs cause carp to stop feeding? Definitely not.
Can they impact how/when they feed on a particular bait? Possibly, in my opinion. They will however eventually feed on that item regardless, whether eggs are included or not, again, in my opinion.
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In reply to Post #24
But everyone using fresh liquid eggs, homemade or commercially, for making boilies have caught how many carp ?
Carp cannot be that bothered by fresh liquid egg, or the results would show that non egg baits were the dogs wotsits .
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In reply to Post #22
Interesting post Ken. Made me think a bit.
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In reply to Post #8
What’s the advantage of not using eggs?
Quite a few, in fact but the most relevant to carp anglers are:
Eggs buffer pH so inhibit potential low-pH attraction.
They contain a trypsin inhibitor which can stall the uptake/utilisation of bait protein.
They slow down the release of natural and artificial attraction.
They slow down or inhibit water ingress which slows the breakdown rate.
Egg-based bait is harder to digest.
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Baitworks user for the past 8/9 years. Atlantic Heat is my absolute go to bait, done me so well over the years.
CreAmino will be my Autumn/Winter bait, not got my hands on any yet, but will be ordering end of the month. Their shelf life, as like many companies nowadays, are nothing like what they used to be like, they barely compromise on quality and extremely reminiscent of their fresh/freezer bait.
Moved into a property with the missus and can't take up freezer space so have 5kg of Atlantic Heat Shelf Life and I can't tell the difference between them and the freezer baits.
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In reply to Post #19
Never said I didn’t catch on it just didn’t do amazingly well, tried it for a full 12 months.
Was a hard water mind but I was wondering if a non fish meal and something different would do better.
Was thinking of moving onto a 50/50 mix of s7 and the switch but they dropped the 30k deal and then see The Creamino, hence me asking the question.
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In reply to Post #17
First time I’ve heard of S7 not catching fish , in fact it’s the first ever post I’ve seen with any kind of negativity, no offence though , how long have you been using it without much success ?
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In reply to Post #17
I went for slk i have used it in the past and did well on it and got 5kg of s7 to mix in with it gunna be giving it a go tomorrow
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In reply to Post #16
I was thinking of going the other way from DNA.
Nearly bought the 30k DNA deal last week and then it seems they’ve take it down and I thought I’d try something new. Didn’t do too well on S7 so not like I’m 100% sold on it.
When I compare it’s £30 more from Baitworks so not that much more expensive and if this new one works then worth it. Will only know if I try though.
That’s why I’m interested in the Creamino especially.
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All there boilies are spot on been useing them the last 4 to 5 year and done well on them but i have switched to dna now as they have better bulk deals on
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In reply to Post #3
Used atlantic heat since the end of lockdown and I havnt blanked yet,
Probably done the kiss of death now but really impressed so far
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In reply to Post #13
Anyone used it yet?
Also, what is the quality like on their pop ups and wafters?
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In reply to Post #12
Is it a freezer or stabillsed as I saw the video saying he dosent use eggs?
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In reply to Post #3
Can recommend the Atlantic Heat shelf life baits, done me proud from last Spring and have already feed some carp in the margins 2 weeks ago, it works all year just fine, I haven't used any of their other products.
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In reply to Post #8
Probably a quicker break down time.
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I imagine it will be a great bait like the other 3..... 
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In reply to Post #8
Says something in the video like no eggs = less fat
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What’s the advantage of not using eggs?
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In reply to Post #3
I moved to BW royal marine after ditching sticky krill last year, and have no regrets at all.
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In reply to Post #3
All 3 of the current boilies are good, atlantic heat has certainly stood the test of time. Personally, I like the monster red. The heaven and hell pop-ups are good value, you get loads of the little barrel ones in a tub and they make a good snowman with the 18mm boilies. I think you can still get a small sample pack if you want to see the difference between the baits. I'd happily cast any of them out and feel confident doing so.
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I use baitworks i have used the full range i like the rm and m r both good baits will defo be useing this new one that is coming out soon
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In reply to Post #3
I only ever see positive things about the company.Atlantic heat is suppose to be very good and the scent from hell and scent from heaven pop ups
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In reply to Post #2
Im looking for a new bait company would anyone reccomend baitworks. if so what products?
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In reply to Post #1
If its anything like any of there other gear it will be good.
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Just watched a video on the new bait,looks very interesting.It has no eggs in the mix just uses the ingredients to bind it together.Due for release in the spring,might give this a try
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