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Muddy_Hi-Lux
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Muddy_Hi-Lux
   Old Thread  #63 12 Feb 2024 at 3.16pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #60
Likewise, out to up to 100 or so yards.
Sgfc
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Sgfc
aka The Combover Kid
   Old Thread  #62 12 Feb 2024 at 1.19pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #56
Just PVA mesh each bait..
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #61 11 Feb 2024 at 3.37pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #59
You can try what you want. I used the hot fish oil, you can get the sweet cream oil which will compliment the creaming bait. Hemp oil will almost certainly work fine. I agree wetting the stick helps, but this is more if the odd one is splitting, doesn't help with a soft bait
frothey
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frothey
   Old Thread  #60 11 Feb 2024 at 9.54am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #59
Normally just wetting the inside of the stick works just as well. But obvs canít sell you a bit of like water 😂
doobz
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   Old Thread  #59 11 Feb 2024 at 8.56am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #58
Thanks for this, Iím currently looking at 10kg thatís largely unusable. Especially for my kind of fishing at the moment (sticking around chods) can I ask what oil you used? Hemp?
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #58 11 Feb 2024 at 8.48am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #56
I asked this to Mike Holly in the shop and he advised to out a bit of oil over the boilies. I was sceptical about this as I thought the oil would hinder using in a stick, but it worked for me last year so maybe worth giving that a try.
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #57 11 Feb 2024 at 2.53am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #56
The shelf life are a lot firmer, and just as good quailty.
doobz
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   Old Thread  #56 10 Feb 2024 at 1.55pm    Login    Register
Awesome bait, however. If youíre planning to use a throwing stick at all then donít buy the freezer versions. Theyíre so soft virtually impossible to use
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #55 9 Sept 2022 at 9.44am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #54
The base mix is a lot finer than what go's into the boilies they sell hold the 2 together shop bought and the ones you make with base mix and crumble both and you will see the diffrance
Pro-Blanker
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   Old Thread  #54 8 Sept 2022 at 10.55am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
Cheere for that . Is the baitworks base mix realy the same as the boilies you buy from them tho or are they holding a few things back . .im very intrested to try my first go at bait making this way can you add bits 2 it ok .

Sure keeper boy on hear was gona start doing base mixes 2 used lot of his bait with great results so mite try one of his with bit added stuff if easy to do . .
chrispfox
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chrispfox
   Old Thread  #53 7 Sept 2022 at 9.01pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #52
I've used both John Baker and Baitworks mixes. Love them both.

If you're just starting then I'd go for a Baitworks mix with the matching liquid. Then you've got everything together. Dead easy to mix as well.
Pro-Blanker
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   Old Thread  #52 4 Sept 2022 at 7.21pm    Login    Register
How do the bait makers on hear rate bait works base mixes you can buy paired to others like john bakers , aa etc base mixes..
I keep meaning to giv it a go making my own bait but only shop bought base mixes as i aint got as clue wot doing so bait works ones look quite simple for a noddie like me .
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #51 4 Sept 2022 at 1.06pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
Mate of mine uses the shelf life version. Quite a soft bait Scopex type lable to it. He really rates it.
snapper1
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snapper1
   Old Thread  #50 4 Sept 2022 at 7.25am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
Mate goes carping once a month but does very well on it the pellets are fantastic to he says, he keeps fish and thay get on it very well , never used there bait but I know there stuff is very good
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #49 3 Sept 2022 at 11.48pm    Login    Register
Anymore reviews on baitworks creamino now itís been out a while ?
bondykk
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   Old Thread  #48 15 Oct 2020 at 5.39pm  1  Login    Register
Iíve been having good results on the creamino..
The carp seem to like it...

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Shadow
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Shadow
   Old Thread  #47 15 Oct 2020 at 2.58pm    Login    Register
Sounds ideal for colder water
DeanoFish
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DeanoFish
   Old Thread  #46 15 Oct 2020 at 1.51pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
I am having success on the pop ups.

I am not a fan of the bottom baits tbh. They break down after a while and are succeptible to silver fish pecking away at them.


Will try the hard hookers before i discount them
Happycarpingedw
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   Old Thread  #45 14 Oct 2020 at 1.17am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #44
Had me over like a kipper
ramsey
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ramsey
   Old Thread  #44 13 Oct 2020 at 11.45pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
That's a classic answer fair play pal hahaha
Happycarpingedw
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   Old Thread  #43 13 Oct 2020 at 10.56pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
Lol
Apps316
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Apps316
   Old Thread  #42 13 Oct 2020 at 8.26pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #41 13 Oct 2020 at 8.22pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #40 13 Oct 2020 at 8.07pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Probably not as well as it does in the water....
Happycarpingedw
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   Old Thread  #39 13 Oct 2020 at 7.55pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
How is the creamino doing on the bank ?
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #38 26 Jul 2020 at 8.25pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #37
For some reason I thought it was but just watched the video and confirmed it wasnít, I will order 20kg and see how I get on, if itís like any of the other range it will do well.
SamBarley
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   Old Thread  #37 26 Jul 2020 at 9.40am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
Creamino isnít nut based
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #36 26 Jul 2020 at 8.50am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
Donít think a long term review can be done for at least a year. If itís like the rest of the range it will stand the test of time......
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #35 26 Jul 2020 at 0.26am    Login    Register
Has anyone got any reviews on the Creamino yet?

Current user of the Atlantic Heat but the lake I fish does more bites on a nut based boilie.
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #34 22 Jun 2020 at 2.39pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #33
As far as i know there is no egg or powder egg in that mix it was mentiond in a you tube video the done a few month ago
activeviii
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activeviii
   Old Thread  #33 19 Jun 2020 at 7.33am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
They use dried eggs rather than in the shell. Storage and eas of use. Dried egg dose not go off like in the shell, takes up less room and less time. No waste.

All 3 in a bucket, pour glug over the top and leave to soak in.

Cremamino is getting a good following, rumour is it's not the same as Elliot came up with, to exspensive, but the alternative is working. Like anything, put enough half decent in and the mud pigs will get on it eventually.
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #32 17 Jun 2020 at 4.23pm    Login    Register
I have never said that egg-based boilies are no good, just that there are some disadvantages as well as advantages. An excellent alternative binder would be whey protein...Or wheat gluten, anybody???
SamBarley
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   Old Thread  #31 16 Jun 2020 at 8.17pm    Login    Register
Just because a bait doesnít contain eggs does not mean it doesnít contain egg derived products

Not saying this is the case with the Cre-Amino, just saying!

midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #30 16 Jun 2020 at 7.09pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
Egg albumen is a point in itself. A fantastic binder but in my opinion a terrible ingredient......the goodness is locked up inside and water ingress/exchange is all but halted.
COSI
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   Old Thread  #29 16 Jun 2020 at 5.08pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
none of their base mixes need eggs.
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #28 16 Jun 2020 at 4.55pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
Exactly, No one would, 4 or 6 eggs were the most cost effective means of holding it all together, and giving it the nuisance fish proof skin, it would be impractical to roll and use it otherwise.
Even using horrible binders like wheat gluten in large amounts, we still caught enough.

Do our current/future boiled baits need to focus more on solubility and digestibility than previously thought?
Is this the start of a trend to go liquid egg free, or is it a convenience, shelf life thing.

bluebeat13
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   Old Thread  #27 16 Jun 2020 at 3.12pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
How many people would have used a boiled bait without some form of binding it, powdered, fresh or albumen?
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #26 16 Jun 2020 at 3.01pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Yes, of course, every carp swimming will eat or at least pick up pretty much anything at one point or another.

Kens post did not suggest they won't work (if made with eggs), it was merely the potentials of what eggs could do to a bait, thus increasing the bait by not using them.

Can eggs cause carp to stop feeding? Definitely not.

Can they impact how/when they feed on a particular bait? Possibly, in my opinion. They will however eventually feed on that item regardless, whether eggs are included or not, again, in my opinion.
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #25 16 Jun 2020 at 2.17pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
But everyone using fresh liquid eggs, homemade or commercially, for making boilies have caught how many carp ?
Carp cannot be that bothered by fresh liquid egg, or the results would show that non egg baits were the dogs wotsits .


midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #24 16 Jun 2020 at 1.29pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Interesting post Ken. Made me think a bit.
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #22 16 Jun 2020 at 8.55am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
Whatís the advantage of not using eggs?

Quite a few, in fact but the most relevant to carp anglers are:

Eggs buffer pH so inhibit potential low-pH attraction.
They contain a trypsin inhibitor which can stall the uptake/utilisation of bait protein.
They slow down the release of natural and artificial attraction.
They slow down or inhibit water ingress which slows the breakdown rate.
Egg-based bait is harder to digest.
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #21 15 Jun 2020 at 10.13pm    Login    Register
Baitworks user for the past 8/9 years. Atlantic Heat is my absolute go to bait, done me so well over the years.

CreAmino will be my Autumn/Winter bait, not got my hands on any yet, but will be ordering end of the month. Their shelf life, as like many companies nowadays, are nothing like what they used to be like, they barely compromise on quality and extremely reminiscent of their fresh/freezer bait.

Moved into a property with the missus and can't take up freezer space so have 5kg of Atlantic Heat Shelf Life and I can't tell the difference between them and the freezer baits.
swiftycarp
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   Old Thread  #20 15 Jun 2020 at 7.59pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
Never said I didnít catch on it just didnít do amazingly well, tried it for a full 12 months.

Was a hard water mind but I was wondering if a non fish meal and something different would do better.
Was thinking of moving onto a 50/50 mix of s7 and the switch but they dropped the 30k deal and then see The Creamino, hence me asking the question.
carpe_diem
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carpe_diem
   Old Thread  #19 15 Jun 2020 at 7.43pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #17
First time Iíve heard of S7 not catching fish , in fact itís the first ever post Iíve seen with any kind of negativity, no offence though , how long have you been using it without much success ?
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #18 15 Jun 2020 at 6.09pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #17
I went for slk i have used it in the past and did well on it and got 5kg of s7 to mix in with it gunna be giving it a go tomorrow
swiftycarp
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   Old Thread  #17 15 Jun 2020 at 5.27pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
I was thinking of going the other way from DNA.
Nearly bought the 30k DNA deal last week and then it seems theyíve take it down and I thought Iíd try something new. Didnít do too well on S7 so not like Iím 100% sold on it.

When I compare itís £30 more from Baitworks so not that much more expensive and if this new one works then worth it. Will only know if I try though.

Thatís why Iím interested in the Creamino especially.
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #16 15 Jun 2020 at 4.03pm    Login    Register
All there boilies are spot on been useing them the last 4 to 5 year and done well on them but i have switched to dna now as they have better bulk deals on
Bren987
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Bren987
   Old Thread  #15 15 Jun 2020 at 3.43pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
Used atlantic heat since the end of lockdown and I havnt blanked yet,
Probably done the kiss of death now but really impressed so far
swiftycarp
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   Old Thread  #14 15 Jun 2020 at 3.18pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #13
Anyone used it yet?

Also, what is the quality like on their pop ups and wafters?

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wac
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   Old Thread  #13 2 Mar 2020 at 1.25pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Is it a freezer or stabillsed as I saw the video saying he dosent use eggs?
MARKerz
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   Old Thread  #12 2 Mar 2020 at 12.52pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
Can recommend the Atlantic Heat shelf life baits, done me proud from last Spring and have already feed some carp in the margins 2 weeks ago, it works all year just fine, I haven't used any of their other products.
Jasongiddings
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Jasongiddings
   Old Thread  #11 2 Mar 2020 at 12.13pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
Probably a quicker break down time.
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #10 2 Mar 2020 at 11.30am    Login    Register
I imagine it will be a great bait like the other 3.....
Rigsbin
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Rigsbin
   Old Thread  #9 2 Mar 2020 at 10.38am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #8
Says something in the video like no eggs = less fat
BlankasorusRex
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BlankasorusRex
   Old Thread  #8 2 Mar 2020 at 10.17am    Login    Register
Whatís the advantage of not using eggs?
Steve5250
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   Old Thread  #7 1 Mar 2020 at 7.31pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
I moved to BW royal marine after ditching sticky krill last year, and have no regrets at all.
Rigsbin
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Rigsbin
   Old Thread  #6 1 Mar 2020 at 4.18pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
All 3 of the current boilies are good, atlantic heat has certainly stood the test of time. Personally, I like the monster red. The heaven and hell pop-ups are good value, you get loads of the little barrel ones in a tub and they make a good snowman with the 18mm boilies. I think you can still get a small sample pack if you want to see the difference between the baits. I'd happily cast any of them out and feel confident doing so.
Gregc1980
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   Old Thread  #5 1 Mar 2020 at 3.02pm    Login    Register
I use baitworks i have used the full range i like the rm and m r both good baits will defo be useing this new one that is coming out soon
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #4 1 Mar 2020 at 2.11pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #3
I only ever see positive things about the company.Atlantic heat is suppose to be very good and the scent from hell and scent from heaven pop ups
HG_CARPING
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HG_CARPING
   Old Thread  #3 1 Mar 2020 at 1.58pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #2
Im looking for a new bait company would anyone reccomend baitworks. if so what products?
Fozzy
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Fozzy
aka Elephant Man
   Old Thread  #2 1 Mar 2020 at 1.13pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
If its anything like any of there other gear it will be good.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #1 1 Mar 2020 at 12.43pm    Login    Register
Just watched a video on the new bait,looks very interesting.It has no eggs in the mix just uses the ingredients to bind it together.Due for release in the spring,might give this a try
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