So I tried the Stiff Hinged Rig on my latest session for the first time.
The boom section was 5" long and made of 15lb mono.
The hook length section was around 2.5" and curved and made out of 20lb Mouthtrap.
It all looked good to me.
I did catch on it.
However the fish was hooked about 1/2" inside the top lip which I thought was odd as I was expecting to get a decent hook hold 1-2" in the bottom lip.
Any ideas on why the hook hold was where it was?
The boom section was 5" long and made of 15lb mono.
The hook length section was around 2.5" and curved and made out of 20lb Mouthtrap.
It all looked good to me.
I did catch on it.
However the fish was hooked about 1/2" inside the top lip which I thought was odd as I was expecting to get a decent hook hold 1-2" in the bottom lip.
Any ideas on why the hook hold was where it was?
In reply to Post #1
I don't think you can judge a rig on one hook hold mate. Not all hook holds can be perfect 2" back in the bottom lip. Give it time. It's an awesome rig.
I don't think you can judge a rig on one hook hold mate. Not all hook holds can be perfect 2" back in the bottom lip. Give it time. It's an awesome rig.
In reply to Post #2
Thanks for your reply Yonny.
Yes it is early days for me with the rig and I will persevere with it.
Thanks for your reply Yonny.
Yes it is early days for me with the rig and I will persevere with it.
As Yonny has said above you can't judge a rig on one fish.
The hinged stiff link when tied properly using good components and a sharp hook is probably the best rig out there in terms of rig mechanics, by which I mean hooking them from whatever direction they approach the bait and them staying on until they're in the net.
In my experience the dodgier hookholds with this rig can often be down to using an inferior pop up that is not buoyant enough to hold the hook section up straight. When the hook is sat leaning over is when you can start getting them in the scissors etc.
The hinged stiff link when tied properly using good components and a sharp hook is probably the best rig out there in terms of rig mechanics, by which I mean hooking them from whatever direction they approach the bait and them staying on until they're in the net.
In my experience the dodgier hookholds with this rig can often be down to using an inferior pop up that is not buoyant enough to hold the hook section up straight. When the hook is sat leaning over is when you can start getting them in the scissors etc.
In reply to Post #1
Is 15lb Mono Stiff enough for the boom section ?
Is 15lb Mono Stiff enough for the boom section ?
In reply to Post #5
The boom was 15lb Shimano Technium, and the 5" length seemed like it would do it's job and when tested in the margins laid nice and flat.
However it is the first time I've tied and used this rig so any suggestions to improve on it would be appreciated.
The boom was 15lb Shimano Technium, and the 5" length seemed like it would do it's job and when tested in the margins laid nice and flat.
However it is the first time I've tied and used this rig so any suggestions to improve on it would be appreciated.
In reply to Post #6
Yeah it's fine pal. I'd personally only use it with a stiffer boom material. Give it ago with something like amnesia or Korda boom crimped. Always had good hook holds. Try and use a decent sized hook also. Similar to the Ronnie rig. Smallest id use is a size 6
Yeah it's fine pal. I'd personally only use it with a stiffer boom material. Give it ago with something like amnesia or Korda boom crimped. Always had good hook holds. Try and use a decent sized hook also. Similar to the Ronnie rig. Smallest id use is a size 6
In reply to Post #1
You using German rig or hair rig. ?
You using German rig or hair rig. ?
In reply to Post #8
Neither of those mate.
Im using the Stiff hinge rig.
Neither of those mate.
Im using the Stiff hinge rig.
In reply to Post #6
The Technium is fine imo mate. The boom can be tied from anything from the softest barid to the stiffest mono. depending on your presentation requirements.
The Technium is fine imo mate. The boom can be tied from anything from the softest barid to the stiffest mono. depending on your presentation requirements.
As has been said boom material/ length really is down to personal preference and perhaps the type of bottom/ substrate that you are trying to present on.
I do think that using a stiff mono/ fluro with nice, big loops either end takes some beating though.
Some good materials for this are Suffix Memory Free Snood Mono 30lb 0.55mm or Gardner Slinky 40lb 0.55mm. They come from the sea leader market but both crimp superbly when using the small 0.6mm Korda Krimps and are a nice stiffness for hinge booms.
I do think that using a stiff mono/ fluro with nice, big loops either end takes some beating though.
Some good materials for this are Suffix Memory Free Snood Mono 30lb 0.55mm or Gardner Slinky 40lb 0.55mm. They come from the sea leader market but both crimp superbly when using the small 0.6mm Korda Krimps and are a nice stiffness for hinge booms.
In reply to Post #11
Many thanks for all your good advice and tips 👍
Many thanks for all your good advice and tips 👍
In reply to Post #12
As per below. Great rig. I struggled with it to start with and got encouraged to stick with it and I've done very well since, don't mean to tempt fate but never had a hook pull on the rig. My preferred boom section is a semi stiff coated braid but will tailor depending on the bottom.
As per below. Great rig. I struggled with it to start with and got encouraged to stick with it and I've done very well since, don't mean to tempt fate but never had a hook pull on the rig. My preferred boom section is a semi stiff coated braid but will tailor depending on the bottom.
In reply to Post #10
Hi, can you expand on what boom section should be used on what bottom please?. I have read myself into confusion trying to make my mind up on SHR boom sections. Semi, subtle or stiff for what substrate?. Thanks.
Hi, can you expand on what boom section should be used on what bottom please?. I have read myself into confusion trying to make my mind up on SHR boom sections. Semi, subtle or stiff for what substrate?. Thanks.
In reply to Post #14
As a very general rule, you want stiffer for cleaner bottom and softer for dirtier bottom.
If you're fishing it on a heli you can get away with stiffer over dirt/weed if you move the top bead up.
As a very general rule, you want stiffer for cleaner bottom and softer for dirtier bottom.
If you're fishing it on a heli you can get away with stiffer over dirt/weed if you move the top bead up.