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TimMarshall

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#1676 1 Jul 2023 at 2.20pm

In reply to Post #1675
Enjoy your holiday, Mark. And do keep planning that book! Your various writings here deserve that…..

TCarper

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#1675 1 Jul 2023 at 12.02pm

In reply to Post #1674
I am honestly sorry I got touchy. I have to be that way about all that kind of stuff in public now. I can’t be arsed with it anymore mate. It just grinds me down. I have dealt with nothing else since I first said I was going to write about it for MrF a week ago (not you). I am on holiday and still dealing with carp fishing, because I wrote some thing for charity. One day maybe I’ll talk about it all, maybe one day I will not. But that’s my choice. It certainly would never happen on a thing for charity, which is the only reason that it was even written. Chances are otherwise, it never even would have been.

I should not have mentioned Ringwood either, I am sorry. That stuff is a decade old now this year. It’s actually ten years today since I caught the Linear & orange scale Roland I’m quite certain. Two best anglers in your area IMO used my garlic hook baits, Beadle one, can’t name the other because he is connected to someone else and loyal. I respect that too. Respect him because he’s honest . I hear Beadle makes an amazing boillie. You should get on it if you can.

NemesisWitch

Posts: 1349

#1674 1 Jul 2023 at 11.24am

In reply to Post #1673
No probs mate, have a fab hols !

TCarper

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#1673 1 Jul 2023 at 11.06am

In reply to Post #1672
No Roland, I did not misunderstand at all. I knew in a roundabout way what you were saying in your cryptic message. Kind of. But EVERYONE else does not Roland. Just something about fish moved in your original message. That means that I have to then make it clear, because I was the last person to catch the fully.

I might have misinterpreted your intentions, for which I apologise. I fell out with Alan when I did not get a ticket, we did not speak for a few years. That was all ex Yateley boy stuff…. We made things good again recently.

Yes it is for Paul Forward. If I wanted to talk about other stuff, I would have. So please do not come and think that you have the right to start talking about it. Because you do not not Roland. You know better than anyone what carp anglers are like when someone starts catching, what everyone else thinks is to much from a lake, straight away. When they have sat there for years catching sweet f all. Does things to people.

I cannot fish UK syndicates anymore because of that. I make my living from carp fishing. So hurting carp fishing is not in my best interests. But the gossip and whining, not for me anymore thanks all the same.

It’s closer to 30k last time I looked. They have done an incredible thing. So please just stop. I’m on holiday too. Not interested in carp fishing today or having to respond to people talking about stuff they heard. Please do not take that the wrong way mate. xx

NemesisWitch

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#1672 1 Jul 2023 at 10.48am

In reply to Post #1671
Hi Mark,

I wasn't referring to you at all about Nursery mate, It was merely a comment around what is going on there now, many years after you stopped fishing there, which I kinda understand due to the otters around Sonning/Nursery/Long. So there was no insinuation, you've misinterpreted what I wrote. I'm sure you fished there in its prime and those old fish have either mainly perished or flooded back into Sonning (probably a combination of the two), but like you, I suspect the monster is long gone. That fully you and Alan caught was an outstanding fish.

And yes, It's about Paul, over 20k raised I gather, which is fabulous.

TCarper

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#1671 1 Jul 2023 at 10.20am

In reply to Post #1670
Roland, what has happened at the Nursery since I fished there, is zero to do with me. When I fished it and caught that fish, I was poaching it. I have no clue what you are talking about, and to be honest, I do not care. I was not given a ticket. You think I was happy?

As for Theale Lagoon. This was written for charity. I spoke about fishing and zero else. Same as the Nursery piece, when I spoke about Burghfield it was ONLY about fishing.

When carp anglers start, “I know, I know”. It always makes me sad. You don’t know Roland. You know about Eastenders gossip. That’s all. The only people who know, are the people who were there.

This is for Paul Forward. So please do not do that Roland. It’s a little bit cringey. You’re Ringwood through and through, and likely far more interested that I mentioned Spinnaker. That also has a large bearing on Alan via Roach Pit because he purchased you lots lake. I’m not interested in all that rubbish no more Roland.

I have pretty much stopped carp fishing now. That’s the only reason I have been writing about my fishing.

Here’s two Nursery returners of both 40’s. As they are going back…. I was the last person to catch the fully. So don’t come here with your cryptic insinuations please.

NemesisWitch

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#1670 1 Jul 2023 at 9.44am

In reply to Post #1669
As mentioned, prob with Otters on Nursery...and that fact that anything that now is caught in there, "may" (

) be rehoused.
I've heard some stories about certain events at the Lagoon last year from a long standing member on there, but I'm sure there are two (or more!) sides to every story. I gather it all got a bit spicy at times.

TCarper

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#1669 30 Jun 2023 at 1.38pm

And also, any of you who have read that Theale & Nursery thing. Theale lagoon is likely the most sort after ticket in the land, numerous people offering many, many 1000’s for a £300 ticket. The Nursery was likely one of the best kept secret lakes in the country before it went syndicate.

I’m on holiday too. I got roasted by my missus when I wrote both. You’re reading them for free.

I know how much you all spend on pop ups remember. There are some loaded mofos on this forum. There’s also tonnes of anglers looking in as guests. More than any of you can imagine in fact. If you don’t all go and donate for MND & Paul Forward on that link…. I will personally find every single one of your wives and girlfriends and then tell them how much you REALLY spend on pop ups and fishing kit. Not what you lie to her, the truth. 😂

It will be far less aggravation for you to just go donate a few quid if you can afford too. Remember, I know what you spend on hook baits. I already know that most of you can afford it. 😂

We still have a two week waiting time on the front of the website. But yesterday all orders were cleared up until the 22nd. Anyone looking in as a guest waiting for orders up till then they should be there today.

TCarper

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#1668 30 Jun 2023 at 11.34am

In reply to Post #1666
Thank you. It was so much more hard work than I could describe in something that was being written to go on social media for charity. It could only be a certain size/length what I wrote.

I know people fish in France at extreme range. But that is not on a UK gravel pit choked with weed. One where you might have thirty minutes using the boat most days, just before dark to get the rods sorted. The sailing club had a bar, they stay to past 9pm most evenings. Ovbs fish had to be landed from boat. Leads could not be. They all had to be reeled in from 550m.

It would take me 30 minutes to reel in each rod. I needed a break after each rod. Sometimes the lead would pick up a weedbed on it the size of a small car. It could take me virtually an hour to get one rod back in that scenario. One hour to reel a weedberg in from nearly half a mile out. I can still remember one time having to reel four rods in quickly because I had to go for a small emergency. I could barely feel my arms for two days. They still hurt the following week when I returned.

That’s just from reeling in. Reeling in itself, became an anticipated nightmare for my arms well in advance on every session. Sometimes the weedbergs were so big I had to straight rod it slowly. Like easing a snag in, but from half a mile out 😂

I had to have my front suspension replaced on my Mercedes estate fishing car. The pit destroyed the front suspension in five minutes flat. My friend wrecked his van too. There’s no wood chipped swims or manicured tracks.

So much more than I could ever describe, than in that thing written below that could only be a certain length.

TCarper

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#1667 30 Jun 2023 at 11.25am

In reply to Post #1665
Thank you for donating, and for the kind words.

Currymuncher

Posts: 427

#1666 29 Jun 2023 at 8.50pm

What a story of graft graft and more graft , well earnt fish amid the gut wrenching feeling of losing huge fish , read it twice mate as it inspires me in in my modest attempt to catch a huge barbel from a stretch of river that has otters, weed , canoes and not knowing where the fish are at any time , loved it mate !

Dekay

Posts: 637

#1665 29 Jun 2023 at 8.24pm

In reply to Post #1664
What a fabulous read that is. Thanks for posting it mark. Inspiring.
Ive chipped in a few ££.

TCarper

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#1664 29 Jun 2023 at 9.09am

In reply to Post #1663

TCarper

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#1663 29 Jun 2023 at 8.55am

In reply to Post #1662
Theale Lagoon 2021.

The story actually starts a few years previous. I had kept close tabs on the pit for many years. I knew the man that ran the syndicate from the old RMC forum, back in the early days of the internet. I first acquired a ticket for the pit in 2018. I had a few sessions, and caught the first fish of the year from the sailing club swim. Only a small common, but it was nice to catch one from such a monstrous pit on one of my first trips. Unfortunately I did not get back near the swim again all spring. Work was becoming more of a monster, and I had met a beautiful Brazilian woman in London. That led to me spending the next year or two, flying backwards and forwards to Brazil during any spare time which I had, after she had returned home. We were actually due to get married during the start of Covid, but travel restrictions and the world shut down soon put paid to that. I had already purchased a beautiful apartment in northern Brazil, inside a gated community, and fallen in love with the country. I'd never been any further than Spain before we met, not for many years either! Suddenly I was flying transatlantic far to much. 2020 was the year of Covid. We were all forced to stay at home. I knew I had a ticket for the pit again, starting at Xmas. I was praying that Covid would not ruin that! The world was in lockdown, but I was allowed to travel to Brazil in January 2021, because my missus was Brazilian. I returned late January, with every intention, of giving Theale Lagoon my full attention whenever I could around work.

Theale lagoon, is somewhere around 270 acres. It has a thirty man syndicate on it. It used to be run by both RDAA and Ameys at certain points in the past, when it was more famed for monster pike and massive match fishing weights. Those days are long gone. Previous to the M4 being built, it was actually somewhere around 400 acres in total size. The M4 cut that down to around 270 acres. When I rejoined in 2021, it held a known stock, of somewhere around thirty, to thirty five carp. The pit is situated in Theale, on the outskirts of Reading. The carp in the pit had been stacking on the weight really fast. The biggest mirror, known as 'the machine' had now gone above 55lb. There was likely another four fish at least over 50lb. Including a common that had also just been caught at 55lb. Another big fish also that had not been caught for a couple of years, which could be as big as those two, or bigger. The fish were putting on 4/5lb in between every capture now. And it would still throw up the odd unknown 40+! It was clear that the pit was changing, from somewhere where it had been previously very easy to obtain a ticket, into somewhere that very soon would have a long waiting list that absolutely 'everyone' wanted to jump on. A waiting list which would soon become closed it grew so fast. It was clear for all to see, that the pit would end up doing something really special in terms of size of carp. A small stock of carp, in an incredibly rich environment. It was always going to happen. Why more places can not grasp this and stock less carp, I personally do not understand. The numbers of fish in our syndicates, is vastly on the rise in the UK. To a point where a lot of places you see in the media, the lakes are so black with big carp, you could literally walk across the lakes on their backs. Theale lagoon is one mile long approximately. You have zero chance of even seeing a person on the far bank without binoculars. If you are at the opposite end of the pit, looking down it towards the M4, you can barely see the juggernauts hurtling along, as they are that small in the distance. Add to that, a stock of only around thirty, to thirty five carp, you can see that the place could be termed as a 'challenge'.

TCarper

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#1662 29 Jun 2023 at 8.54am

In reply to Post #1661
The sheer size of the pit, and the harsh conditions which that can bring with it are quite scary sometimes. Things can change fast as well. You need to make sure everything is well pegged down when the wind blows! I started back fishing, as soon as we were allowed out. That was in March. It was absolutely bitter that year, and freezing cold. The area where I had caught the small common, was a very popular area in the spring. I decided to leave this area alone. I wanted some space, and to explore the pit a bit more. Whilst everyone wanted to fish around the known area that the fish liked to visit in the spring.... It was the perfect opportunity to investigate some other areas that I had no knowledge of. I needed to build up a picture in my head of the pit. I had acquired an old depth map (shown in attached photos) that the sailing club who share the pit had produced many years previously. Between this and google earth, it was easier to build up a picture faster, while not even on the pit but at home. I started fishing an area on the opposite side of the sailing club, in a large shallow bay. The bay itself, must have been ten acres easily. It was very shallow all over, so in my mind, any warmth in the spring sun would also warm this area quickly too, and the carp would show up. It did not work. I blanked. I never saw a carp. I did catch a couple of bream at long range though. Fishing some 250m out to the entrance to the bay, next to the Burghfield sailing club itself, where they put the boats in and out. I caught these bream on long running chods, over low lying weed. I had watched some small signs of fish early one morning at long range. These turned out to be bream, but it was nice just to get a couple of bites which made the heart race a little. I was flitting around, trying to fish as many different swims as possible. Quite a few of the members had their own swims they already favored and liked to bait. The more mobile anglers, were mainly concentrating their efforts around the islands area, which had done a number of fish over the previous few springs. This was by far the most popular area on the pit. April and then May rolled in, still nothing had been caught. We were all told the pit had not done a carp for eighteen months or so, since before Covid... Although as it turned out later, one or two had been caught apparently but kept quiet. Now May was here, the weed had really started to sprout. I'd had a couple of trips on the motorway bank, in a swim around the very middle of the motorway bank itself. I had started putting a bit of bait in here, very close in. There was a lovely deep drop off. This was by far the deepest area on the pit along this margin. Created when the M4 was built as mentioned earlier, it was a very interesting margin. Large lumps of concrete and huge boulders lined the margins, the original base they put down before the motorway was built. House bricks, all sorts along the margins. The motorway was a nightmare.


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